Kahr P9 Experience

[FredS1974]

I didn't know there was a section for P series. I posted this in general discussion:

I purchased a Kahr P9 after extensive research for the reasons many decide to go with one. At the time it seemed to be the perfect choice. It is a sweet looking gun, with good ergonomics, a good trigger, it shoots well, and is accurate.

The Kahr P9 was purchased approximately 18 months ago. I have had numerous problems with this gun since I have owned it, i.e., FTFs, FTE's, slide issues and most recently the magazine now falls out when shooting it. I keep a round count on all of my weapons, and this handgun has 1150 rounds through it. It is once again back at the factory.

I have several other handguns and shoot quite a bit - about 50,000 rounds per year. I have had more problems with my Kahr than with all of my other handguns combined.

I have little to no confidence in the product. After further research I recently purchased a Walther PPS which I now use instead of the P9 for the role with which it was intended.

When the Kahr gets back from the factory I am not sure what I am going to do with it. I was actually more curious about what the factory would say again versus hopeful about getting this issue resolved. If it does continue to malfunction when it gets back I will have it destroyed. I would not want to sell this product or give it to someone where the possibility of non-performance exists when they are in harms way.

Anyhow, I was wondering if there are any others out there who have P9's who have had similar experience(s). I would be loathe to ever purchase a Kahr again or recommend it to anyone.

[Short Bus]

Send it to me!!!! I'll give it a good home. I love me P9.

[RevRay]

If you fire 50k rounds a year, you can well afford to dump one pistol you think is a lemon. Give it to Short Bus or to me or whoever, but don't be a martyr and destroy it. If it truly is a lemon, I'm sure Short Bus or myself are smart enough to figure that out for ourselves.

[Bawanna]

Come on boys, begging is so unmanly and beneath us here.

The bottom line is Kahr will make the gun right. End of story. Just a matter of patience. They will make it right without question.

Now the issue is confidence. It isn't right, can I ever trust this gun to be right. Only a bunch of new bonding and trial time can answer that.

It may take another trip back or 5 trips back but Kahr WILL make it right.

[warbird1]

I don't think it will take that long based on my experience with Kahr. Excellent product with outstanding customer service.

[jocko]

oh yes destroy it.,that'el show kahr that ur not fokking around. Beat it with a 10# sledge to. send um a video when u do it so they know u were serious to. Then Put it on U-tube so all the dumbshits in the cuntry can see just how smart u are..

I ain't beggin u, I am tell in u. beat the fokker like u stole it.

WTF!

[RevRay]

Come on boys, begging is so unmanly and beneath us here.

I beg to differ, Bawanna, I wasn't begging ... I was just trying to talk him out of feeling the need to demolish it.

[Short Bus]

I beg to differ, Bawanna, I wasn't begging ... I was just trying to talk him out of feeling the need to demolish it.
Well said. :amflag:

[berettabone]

When you get it back, sleep with it........you know that always makes things better.

[yqtszhj]

I've missed my flawless 1000+ round CW9 ever since I traded it for a CM9. I'll take your P9 if you don't want it and if it malfunctions I've been warned. I'll even pay shipping.

Honestly Kahr will make it right.

[FredS1974]

My experience with Kahr this time has been a 180 from the last two trips the P9 took to the factory. For whatever reason, perhaps all of the correspondence I enclosed, they did the following:

1. Called me as soon as they received the gun;
2. Called me with an update, stating they experienced the same problems I did and would correct them;
3. Sent the gun back with a report stating they:

a. Reworked barrel;
b. Replaced magazine;
c. Replaced magazine catch
d. Test fired and worked fine with no recurrence of problems initially stated.

There was also an enclosed letter from Director of Customer Service requesting input (survey) and asking me to let them know how the gun works.

I have not yet taken it to the range, that will happen tomorrow. I do admit that the slide / action seems to be significantly smoother.

I plan on firing 100 rounds through it tomorrow.



I've missed my flawless 1000+ round CW9 ever since I traded it for a CM9. I'll take your P9 if you don't want it and if it malfunctions I've been warned. I'll even pay shipping.

Honestly Kahr will make it right.

[rkirk]

I hope Kahr was able to fix the problems. I don't have a P9, but do own a CW9. It is a very versatile carry pistol. I have pocket holsters, paddle holsters, and IWB CTAC holsters. Your P9 could easily become your most used pistol. Please give follow up reports on your use of the P9.

-- Richard

[FredS1974]

I went to the range and put 50 rounds through it. Not one FTF, FTE or magazine falling off. During my next trip to the range I will put another 50 through it but my sense is the results will be the same since prior to this I had never fired 50 consecutive rounds without a problem.

Unless something untoward happens I think the reliability issue has been resolved. The magazine issue is one thing, it is well documented and easily fixed. The issue of the FTF's and FTE's was resolved, in my opinion, in the "reworking barrel" statement they sent back with their report.

yqtszhj stated "Honestly Kahr will make it right". He (assumption) called it correctly.

As much as I was critical of the product and the service I give them credit and their due for making it right. i will also circle back with their Director of Customer Service and thank him for his attention to this matter.

If there are any P9 owners out there who have had similar problems I trust this thread has been helpful and will enable you to come to the same resolution.

[rkirk]

Very happy to hear you Kahr P9 is working as it should. If you decide to carry this pistol you will be well served.

-- Richard

[wyntrout]

I'm happy with your newly-repaired pistol and hope that it will become reliable enough for you to carry it. Most of my Kahrs have needed some help... mine and/or the factory, but I love them all and carry them all as needed with respect to size and power/capacity... except the all-steel one... just too heavy!:rolleyes:

Wynn:)

[yqtszhj]

I went to the range and put 50 rounds through it. Not one FTF, FTE or magazine falling off. During my next trip to the range I will put another 50 through it but my sense is the results will be the same since prior to this I had never fired 50 consecutive rounds without a problem.

Unless something untoward happens I think the reliability issue has been resolved. The magazine issue is one thing, it is well documented and easily fixed. The issue of the FTF's and FTE's was resolved, in my opinion, in the "reworking barrel" statement they sent back with their report.

yqtszhj stated "Honestly Kahr will make it right". He (assumption) called it correctly.

As much as I was critical of the product and the service I give them credit and their due for making it right. i will also circle back with their Director of Customer Service and thank him for his attention to this matter.

If there are any P9 owners out there who have had similar problems I trust this thread has been helpful and will enable you to come to the same resolution.

Glad it appears to be running better for you.

Given the number of rounds that you state you shoot they may have an interest in how it runs for you longer term. If you have other problems the Director of customer service and quality control may like to know for the benefit of all and who knows, you may even get something out of it from Kahr for your efforts. I would bet that if there was a regular failing part they would want to know.

Other than Jocko's 30,000 round PM9 I would say that most of the rest of us probably don't reach that round count very quickly.

[FredS1974]

Most of my shooting is with 1911's, but I make it a practice to shoot my "primary" SD weapons, which again includes the Kahr, once a month. The size and lightness of the P9 is ideal for CCW thus I am glad to have it back in the fold.

I will put around 50 to 100 rounds a month through the Kahr. I will never get a real high round count on it. I am cautiously optimistic that it will be trouble free since what they did to it last time seems to have worked out the issues.

As a side note, for those of you who shoot frequently and shoot indoors make sure you get your BLL (blood lead level) checked. I was shooting inside and ended up with elevated BLL (53). Fortunately, there is a great outdoor range, one of the largest in the U.S., about 15 miles away, so i only shoot outside now. The BLL is down to 23 and declining.





Glad it appears to be running better for you.

Given the number of rounds that you state you shoot they may have an interest in how it runs for you longer term. If you have other problems the Director of customer service and quality control may like to know for the benefit of all and who knows, you may even get something out of it from Kahr for your efforts. I would bet that if there was a regular failing part they would want to know.

Other than Jocko's 30,000 round PM9 I would say that most of the rest of us probably don't reach that round count very quickly.

[SeamasterSig]

I feel your pain – sort of. But I also feel confident that you will get over it learn to love and trust your P9. I purchased a P9 used last year in what appeared to be mint condition intended for concealed carry, but it proved to have a serious FTE issue. I called Kahr and they said to send it back to the factory. Not only did they correct the problem, they also polished the breech and replaced the old polymer magazine catch for free. How's that for service? It took two trips to the range to convince me that I could trust the weapon to function flawlessly. I would have preferred for the gun to function flawlessly as purchased, but Kahr made it right at no cost to me except for the wait (well, I did have them install night sights while it was at the factory). Kudos to Kahr for excellent customer service!

[b4uqzme]

Dang, I was hoping you'd give it away. ;). Glad you hung in there and got things sorted out. Welcome!

[muggsy]

Another satisfied Kahr owner. Nothing more need be said.

[FredS1974]

Just a follow up. I have now put over 500 rounds through the P9. Not one FTF, FTE, or any problem whatsoever. To the degree it was unreliable before it is uber reliable now. I have full faith and confidence in the P9 and it is now my CCW - again.

I have always contended that the P9 was, for me, struck the ultimate balance between size and power.

Everyone on this forum and at the gun club I go to, said that at the end of the day Kahr would resolve the problem.

I have gone from a very disgruntled Kahr customer to a very satisfied one and would not hesitate to recommend their products.

A letter to that effect has been sent to Kahr customer service.

[jocko]

the letter goes a long way . They need to hear when they do good.

[berettabone]

Like they say, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on...........................good to hear your kahr is running again.........................

[FredS1974]

Went to the range this evening. Put 100 rounds through it. Flawless. I am very pleased to have it back in the fold. It is also a very accurate gun. I was able to get 2 inch groups at 10 yards - consistently. What a difference.

[FredS1974]

Thought I'd circle back on my P9 experience(s). I have put another 500 rounds through it. I now use it for my primary CCW due to it's size, weight and and how easy it is to conceal. I also like the ergos as well as the way it looks - clean and sleek.

The takeaway here for any Kahr owners who have problems is that ultimately Kahr will make things right for you. Just be persistent and in the end things should work out for you.