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muggsy
09-16-2013, 09:23 PM
A truly scientific test.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/battered-bullets-does-bullet-setback-matter/

muggsy
09-17-2013, 03:24 PM
Thirty-five views and not one reply. Is that a record?

jocko
09-17-2013, 03:34 PM
damn good article IMO, damn good.... probalby muggs the reasn noone replied backtoyou was because ur a "dick". but ol jocko replied..

knkali
09-17-2013, 04:10 PM
damn good article IMO, damn good.... probalby muggs the reasn noone replied backtoyou was because ur a "dick". but ol jocko replied..

holy sheet

knkali
09-17-2013, 04:17 PM
not sure I buy into this test. If it is reproduced several times without problems then I will. Any other reports like this out there?

muggsy
09-17-2013, 04:36 PM
damn good article IMO, damn good.... probalby muggs the reasn noone replied backtoyou was because ur a "dick". but ol jocko replied..

I wouldn't call you a "dick" Jocko. That's part of a man. :)

knkali
09-17-2013, 04:37 PM
I wouldn't call you a "dick" Jocko. That's part of a man. :)

bada boom

muggsy
09-17-2013, 04:42 PM
not sure I buy into this test. If it is reproduced several times without problems then I will. Any other reports like this out there?

Back in the late 70s or early 80s the NRA published an article in the rifleman debunking the myth. The conclusion arrived at was that pistol failures blamed on bullet set back were actually caused by overcharges of powder or bore obstructions. No one has as of yet has presented definitive proof that bullet set back caused a catastrophic failure of a handgun. Bullet set back can cause feeding problems in auto-loaders.

getsome
09-17-2013, 04:49 PM
Had nuttin to do with the ammo, everybody knows it's because it was fired in a Glock...I mean they are indestructable aren't they???....Well???....At least that's what I heard....I read it on the internet so it's true, right???...

GROTMAN
09-17-2013, 07:10 PM
Thirty-five views and not one reply. Is that a record?
How i feel when no one likes my post
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muggsy
09-18-2013, 06:17 PM
It's tough being ignored. :)

jocko
09-18-2013, 06:30 PM
indeed tell me about it!! Just sayin

olympicmotorcars
09-18-2013, 09:07 PM
I think this is a very interesting thread. I personally worried a lot about this when I first started carrying autos a few years ago. I don't worry as much now, but it still does cross my mind occasionally.

I wonder if anyone here has experienced a ka-boom ? If so what did you attribute it to?

muggsy
09-23-2013, 09:13 AM
I had a sort of ka-boom. It resulted in a bulged barrel due to a barrel obstruction caused by a squib load in a revolver. A barrel replacement was all that was required and no injuries other than to my wallet. I never again tried to see how fast I could empty that gun.

garyb
09-23-2013, 03:11 PM
It was an interesting article...Thanks for sharing it. It is difficult to know how to feel about this article. It would have been better to test the amount of set back on pressure of a particular manufacturer's various weight bullets and loads. It seems to me that there would be increased pressure with set back....at least that is how the theory is applied with reloading. Whether or not the barrel would be damaged is hard to say....don't know....depends on the ammo, set back and gun used, etc....
Something to watch for and think about. Thanks again for sharing it.

muggsy
09-23-2013, 09:04 PM
It was an interesting article...Thanks for sharing it. It is difficult to know how to feel about this article. It would have been better to test the amount of set back on pressure of a particular manufacturer's various weight bullets and loads. It seems to me that there would be increased pressure with set back....at least that is how the theory is applied with reloading. Whether or not the barrel would be damaged is hard to say....don't know....depends on the ammo, set back and gun used, etc....
Something to watch for and think about. Thanks again for sharing it.

As I understand it there is an increase in pressure, but the brass still expands to fill the chamber and release the projectile. The amount of pressure increase isn't enough to cause a catastrophic failure. I'll shoot bullets at the range that are set back, but only as a precaution against a mis-feed during a serious social encounter of the not so nice kind.

garyb
09-24-2013, 05:52 AM
As I understand it there is an increase in pressure, but the brass still expands to fill the chamber and release the projectile. The amount of pressure increase isn't enough to cause a catastrophic failure. I'll shoot bullets at the range that are set back, but only as a precaution against a mis-feed during a serious social encounter of the not so nice kind.

Seems to be the way you describe, but I don't know if I would mess with bullets with serious set back. Not sure if I would or would not shoot it up to test it on my gun and myself. Minimal set back...maybe. I have not experienced any set back as of yet, but will keep an eye on things now. I use good carry SD nickel plated ammo which may not be prone to set back. My reloads (brass) get chambered once on the range and shot up....soooo set back would not show up in my ammo. Makes me wonder if some manufacturer's specific ammo (cheapy softer brass stuff) is more prone to set back than others?:confused: Just wondering. You would think that brass is brass, but then again???? Thanks again.

muggsy
09-24-2013, 07:18 AM
I have no problem with someone erring on the side of caution. In fact I think that it should occur more often that it does. Softer brass is better for reloading. Brass becomes work hardened every time that it is fired and resized. The result is case necks splitting.