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Carcw9
09-17-2013, 06:52 PM
My new CW9, has what seems to me a very long trigger pull. Is it possible to take up sone of the travel?
addictedhealer
09-17-2013, 07:50 PM
What travel? Maybe you should do a little research next time. It's a "double action" striker fired pistol.
Dirty Harry
09-17-2013, 07:59 PM
What travel? Maybe you should do a little research next time. It's a "double action" striker fired pistol.
So is a Glock, but the travel isn't as far and the trigger resets a hell of a lot sooner.
codegeek
09-17-2013, 08:02 PM
Long and smooth. Since the CW9 doesn't have an external safety, I think that's a feature.
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muggsy
09-17-2013, 08:29 PM
Guess you should have bought a Glock, Harry. :)
yqtszhj
09-17-2013, 08:37 PM
So is a Glock, but the travel isn't as far and the trigger resets a hell of a lot sooner.
Glock is not quite like a double action trigger.
Dirty Harry
09-17-2013, 08:42 PM
Guess you should have bought a Glock, Harry. :)
I have many Glocks.
Glock is not quite like a double action trigger.
It's the same principle as a Kahr, semi loaded striker fired pistol. The trigger is just different.
olympicmotorcars
09-17-2013, 09:33 PM
When I first got my PM40 I could not shoot it as well as my glock . but after carrying it and shooting it regularly I now find I shoot it better than my G27 or my Walther PPS. I also think the long pull is a good safety feature, and that actually probably helps me shoot it well because I can never anticipate when the trigger will break, so my flinching has gotten to be almost non-existent .
addictedhealer
09-18-2013, 06:28 AM
I have many Glocks.
It's the same principle as a Kahr, semi loaded striker fired pistol. The trigger is just different.
Kahr are their own breed. Striker fired but have a revolver style trigger. Zero safeties and designed for carry. Needs a long trigger, you should buy the Wolff striker spring. Drops some trigger weight.
Just takes time to get proficient. But once you do you can shoot anything. I'm a revolver guy so the Kahr just feels natural. I outshot my brother the other day running and gunning. He had his glock 26 and I had my cw9. Shooting 8" steel at 20 yards.
muggsy
09-18-2013, 06:44 AM
I have many Glocks.
It's the same principle as a Kahr, semi loaded striker fired pistol. The trigger is just different.
You're lucky. I only have one. A Glock 19 Gen 4.
yqtszhj
09-18-2013, 07:39 AM
I also think the long pull is a good safety feature, and that actually probably helps me shoot it well because I can never anticipate when the trigger will break, so my flinching has gotten to be almost non-existent .
Same here.
berettabone
09-18-2013, 12:24 PM
That's what is so great about this country...................you can buy a boat anchor, or you can buy a Kahr, or something else totally different..........so many choices. People choose Kahr for a specific reason. Don't like the trigger pull...............buy a boat anchor..................................
jocko
09-18-2013, 02:00 PM
So is a Glock, but the travel isn't as far and the trigger resets a hell of a lot sooner.
is a difference in the two. Akahr is less than 15% precocked. a glock is well over 60% precocked, therefore a shorter stroke for a glock and there fore their SAS (trigger safety). Kimber advgertises their solo as striker fired but it is almost 90% precocked and kimber will even tell an owner their solo is really single action, therefore an external safety. All three are striker fiered and all there have different trigger travel. Kahr's is long by design 3/8" is not long bu tit is compare dto a glock or kimber, but a kahr has no safety other than that looooong but totally smooth trigger.
some people buy a kahr before doin some prior research and then they complain about the looooong trigger system as if it is a flaw:crazy:
The question about can u shorten a kahr trigger is basically no BUT YOU CAN BUY THE ENHANCED pm9 WHICH HAS 1/8' less trigger travel than ur cw does, henence 1/4" trigger travel, and there fore gettin into glock territory and there for every kahr with enhanced trigger has an external manual safety..:amflag:
I think berettabone said what I said in one sentence though.. I have some boat anchors for sale in utter products..
Dirty Harry
09-18-2013, 03:31 PM
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying. I imagine I will get used to it. if I don't it will go in the safe with the rest of the ones that don't normally see day light.
At least my boat anchor doesn't require "special" instructions for chambering a round.
muggsy
09-18-2013, 06:11 PM
Kahr pistols have one of the smoothest double action triggers made. The long pull was intended to prevent accidental discharge of the pistol since it has no manual safety. The same can't be said for Glock triggers. Nothing beats the feel of a good single action trigger and it's the trigger of choice for many shooters. It's all a matter of what you are used to using. I'm well acquainted with all three types and have no problem with any of them. Learn to shoot a Kahr well and you'll be able to handle any type of trigger.
berettabone
09-18-2013, 06:21 PM
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying. I imagine I will get used to it. if I don't it will go in the safe with the rest of the ones that don't normally see day light.
At least my boat anchor doesn't require "special" instructions for chambering a round.
But it does require care when cleaning in the dishwasher............If you would sell the ones that don't see the light of day, you could purchase a fleet of boat anchors, and be happy...........
Dirty Harry
09-18-2013, 06:41 PM
But it does require care when cleaning in the dishwasher............
That's no dig, because the CM9 is plastic also.
As you can tell I like my Glocks. They are simple. You don't need 3 hands to take the slide a part and you don't have to read the manual to chamber a round.
With that said I like the CM9 too. It just will take some getting used to.
berettabone
09-18-2013, 06:47 PM
That's no dig, because the CM9 is plastic also.
As you can tell I like my Glocks. They are simple. You don't need 3 hands to take the slide a part and you don't have to read the manual to chamber a round.
With that said I like the CM9 too. It just will take some getting used to.
I only own steel firearms, so I don't have any experience with plastic Kahrs......I only need 2 hands with my Kahr...............I immediately replace the recoil springs.......................I really hope you give Kahr a chance, even the plastic ones.
jocko
09-18-2013, 06:54 PM
same two hands that takes my G19 down take any of my 3 kahrs down.You just seem DH to want to argue small points. WTFis wrong with reading an owners manual. they all will tell you different things about that particular gun. If beating a dead horse to death will make your kahr chamber that first round exactly like you want it to, then indeed ur kahr shold be ready to rock and roll. Just sayin For me,,I think your acting like a Dick now. as u have so elequonatly used that word in some of your threads to describe some of our senior members..
Dirty Harry
09-18-2013, 07:06 PM
same two hands that takes my G19 down take any of my 3 kahrs down.You just seem DH to want to argue small points. WTFis wrong with reading an owners manual. they all will tell you different things about that particular gun. If beating a dead horse to death will make your kahr chamber that first round exactly like you want it to, then indeed ur kahr shold be ready to rock and roll. Just sayin For me,,I think your acting like a Dick now. as u have so elequonatly used that word in some of your threads to describe some of our senior members..
I seemed to be getting ganged up on when I mention Glock.
I don't care what you think! You have a choice to block me or just not click on the threads I post in.
I'm not arguing anything I'm stating a fact about the new gun I bought. Usually an arguement is over opinion. I'm stating a well documented fact. I can't help it that it bothers you.
berettabone
09-18-2013, 07:08 PM
So is a Glock, but the travel isn't as far and the trigger resets a hell of a lot sooner.
You didn't start out too well..................
jocko
09-18-2013, 07:08 PM
"dick"
olympicmotorcars
09-18-2013, 09:01 PM
At least my boat anchor doesn't require "special" instructions for chambering a round.
Dirty Harry, I am certainly not trying to be argumentative , I love my Glock also, very tough, reliable weapon, probably the one I would carry If I absolutely knew I was going to be in a gunfight.
My PM 40 has smoothed up so much with a couple thousand rounds through it , now It will chamber rounds just like my Glock, with no need to use the slide release to chamber a round anymore.
I am glad you joined this forum, I respect your opinions, and we shooters all need to stick together especially now
addictedhealer
09-18-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm not going to argue either but am going to say something. If you can take down the Kahr with ur two hands and can't sling shot maybe u should stop typing and go lift some weights.
Welcome to the forums. Kahr firearms are very right tolerances and small for carry. Never was designed for a battle gun. Kahr focuses everything on the every day carry.
Dirty Harry
09-18-2013, 09:39 PM
At least my boat anchor doesn't require "special" instructions for chambering a round.
Dirty Harry, I am certainly not trying to be argumentative , I love my Glock also, very tough, reliable weapon, probably the one I would carry If I absolutely knew I was going to be in a gunfight.
My PM 40 has smoothed up so much with a couple thousand rounds through it , now It will chamber rounds just like my Glock, with no need to use the slide release to chamber a round anymore.
I am glad you joined this forum, I respect your opinions, and we shooters all need to stick together especially now
Thanks!
I'm not going to argue either but am going to say something. If you can take down the Kahr with ur two hands and can't sling shot maybe u should stop typing and go lift some weights.
Welcome to the forums. Kahr firearms are very right tolerances and small for carry. Never was designed for a battle gun. Kahr focuses everything on the every day carry.
I'm talking about dissassembling the slide not field stripping the weapon.
Thanks for the welcome!
berettabone
09-18-2013, 09:58 PM
Thanks!
I'm talking about dissassembling the slide not field stripping the weapon.
Thanks for the welcome!
You definitely need to stick to Glock, If your having trouble disassembling the slide..........
Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 05:23 AM
You definitely need to stick to Glock, If your having trouble disassembling the slide..........
Trust me if glock made a pocket gun the size of the cm9 I would have never even thought about buying this one. If they do make one in the future it will probably never see the light of day again.
addictedhealer
09-19-2013, 06:45 AM
Dirty, I don't know what you are trying to achieve. You come to a KahrTalk that is a small community and bash our guns. If you would compare the Kahr pistols to other guns in its class it is superior. Look and handle the Keltecs, Ruger LC9/LCP, Nano and many others. The only thing that would be a close running in IMO is the XDs. Apples ad Oranges my friends.
Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 06:57 AM
It all started when I was ganged up on when I compared the cm9 to the lcp. Now I can't post anything without someone jumping my sh!t. I'm really not a bad guy, but that thread rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not going to sit back and take the abuse.
hardluk1
09-19-2013, 07:14 AM
carcw9 Looks like some glock fan boy has got'n your tread hijacked. Kahrs have a have long trigger pull, fact of life and well known to anyone that should be looking to buy one. Its a smooth trigger and you have 2 choices. You can spend time with it and get use to the trigger pull or sell it. With a simple search you could have found there is no magic fix for you. No short pull.
To many newbe shooters today think if a trigger is not some short reset striker trigger its just all wrong. I find no trigger has any real issues if its smooth. The average kahr trigger pull breaks in around 6lbs to 6 1/2lb pull weigh. You can lighten it a little with wolff rp striker spring change but that's it. It is an easy trigger to shoot well if only you make the effort to try. And leave any other pistol at home till you do. Or sell it and do more research before buying the next brand. I can think of a pile of brands you would hate if a long 6lb trigger is to much.
dirty harry . Not your tread . You really should sell any kahr you have and Go back to your fav-o-raite glock forum where maybe others will make you feel good or tell you how foolish you come as many others have and enjoy many brands. . You like others that complain about some function of a kahr or any other brands IF you did some research before hand should have know what to expect good and bad . I have 8 brands of handguns in our house and all 6 break down differently and I don't have an issue with any.
I don't find an issue with stripping a kahrs slide compared to a glock or 1911 or a m&p. Just a little different but not a big deal. Guess it more an issue with newer shooters or one brand owner.
Again Stop whinning. If you don't like a kahr sell it and buy something else. Maybe a 11oz to 15oz snubby with its heavy trigger pull, breakdown being a little more complex dealing with a side cover and all or just learn to carry a glock 26 or 27 and deal with the little chunkers.
b4uqzme
09-19-2013, 07:21 AM
It all started when I was ganged up on when I compared the cm9 to the lcp. Now I can't post anything without someone jumping my sh!t. I'm really not a bad guy, but that thread rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not going to sit back and take the abuse.
Just don't be surprised when you come on this forum and find members who love their Kahrs. Many have heard it all before and know better. A little tact and diplomacy is always in order. Good skills in all of life too.
PS. I Don't own a Glock so you need not worry about me bashing them on the Glock forum. I also don't own a Toyota or a Maytag....
RE the OP's question: the long trigger really is a defining feature of a Kahr. Spend some time with it and you'll probably learn to appreciate it. If not, then Kahrs are just not for you. Or you can try the enhanced trigger model. Welcome.
Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 07:34 AM
carcw9 Looks like some glock fan boy has got'n your tread hijacked. Kahrs have a have long trigger pull, fact of life and well known to anyone that should be looking to buy one. Its a smooth trigger and you have 2 choices. You can spend time with it and get use to the trigger pull or sell it. With a simple search you could have found there is no magic fix for you. No short pull.
To many newbe shooters today think if a trigger is not some short reset striker trigger its just all wrong. I find no trigger has any real issues if its smooth. The average kahr trigger pull breaks in around 6lbs to 6 1/2lb pull weigh. You can lighten it a little with wolff rp striker spring change but that's it. It is an easy trigger to shoot well if only you make the effort to try. And leave any other pistol at home till you do. Or sell it and do more research before buying the next brand. I can think of a pile of brands you would hate if a long 6lb trigger is to much.
dirty harry . Not your tread . You really should sell any kahr you have and Go back to your fav-o-raite glock forum where maybe others will make you feel good or tell you how foolish you come as many others have and enjoy many brands. . You like others that complain about some function of a kahr or any other brands IF you did some research before hand should have know what to expect good and bad . I have 8 brands of handguns in our house and all 6 break down differently and I don't have an issue with any.
I don't find an issue with stripping a kahrs slide compared to a glock or 1911 or a m&p. Just a little different but not a big deal. Guess it more an issue with newer shooters or one brand owner.
Again Stop whinning. If you don't like a kahr sell it and buy something else. Maybe a 11oz to 15oz snubby with its heavy trigger pull, breakdown being a little more complex dealing with a side cover and all or just learn to carry a glock 26 or 27 and deal with the little chunkers.
Not new to shooting. I've been shooting for 35 years. I own multiple brands. I'm not usually like this but the warm welcome I received from a few of the members here made me turn into what you s6.
Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 07:52 AM
Just don't be surprised when you come on this forum and find members who love their Kahrs. Many have heard it all before and know better. A little tact and diplomacy is always in order. Good skills in all of life too.
PS. I Don't own a Glock so you need not worry about me bashing them on the Glock forum. I also don't own a Toyota or a Maytag....
RE the OP's question: the long trigger really is a defining feature of a Kahr. Spend some time with it and you'll probably learn to appreciate it. If not, then Kahrs are just not for you. Or you can try the enhanced trigger model. Welcome.
All I did was compare the size of the cm9 to the lcp. By the responses I received you would think I insulted someone's mother. I think some of the members on here need your advice more than me.
b4uqzme
09-19-2013, 08:06 AM
Not new to shooting. I've been shooting for 35 years. I own multiple brands. I'm not usually like this but the warm welcome I received from a few of the members here made me turn into what you s6.
Please just consider that you may have it backwards. I've read thousands of threads and the welcome is generally, genuinely warm. These guys and gals have helped me with a lot of questions about many types and brands of firearms. Life is a mirror. If you find you get cold treatment, try looking in yours.
Mrs b4uqzme often complains that I'm grumpy. I just reply; "Honey, you are my inspiration."
I welcome you and respect your opinions even if I disagree.
Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 08:19 AM
Please just consider that you may have it backwards. I've read thousands of threads and the welcome is generally, genuinely warm. These guys and gals have helped me with a lot of questions about many types and brands of firearms. Life is a mirror. If you find you get cold treatment, try looking in yours.
Mrs b4uqzme often complains that I'm grumpy. I just reply; "Honey, you are my inspiration."
I welcome you and respect your opinions even if I disagree.
Thanks!
warbird1
09-19-2013, 10:20 AM
Kahr are their own breed. Striker fired but have a revolver style trigger. Zero safeties and designed for carry. Needs a long trigger, you should buy the Wolff striker spring. Drops some trigger weight.
Just takes time to get proficient. But once you do you can shoot anything. I'm a revolver guy so the Kahr just feels natural. I outshot my brother the other day running and gunning. He had his glock 26 and I had my cw9. Shooting 8" steel at 20 yards.
Great explanation...I'm also a revolver guy and I love the trigger :D.
Tinman507
09-19-2013, 11:40 AM
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Dirty Harry
09-19-2013, 03:18 PM
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Slow down George.
yqtszhj
09-19-2013, 11:23 PM
Where I work we have a saying "show no weakness and keep your buttons covered or someone will push them." Works pretty good as a life lesson. Lots of strong personalities where I work. The advantage of strong personalities, we pull together and we're ranked as #2 out 44 teams. #1 spot was stolen from us so they better watch out next month. :) #2 is for the first loser.
I would say the Kahr folks qualify as strong personalities.
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