CW45 Back to Origin -- Round 2

[AFDoc]

I sent my CW45 back to Kahr for warranty service today. Nosedives and the mag would not drop out (but only when the slide was locked open...??), and a list of things to check. Thanks to all here, especially Greg and Jocko, who helped me try to get it functioning well. I'm confident Kahr will send it back ready and able to go.

[yqtszhj]

Wish you the best. Let us know how it goes.

You showed a lot of patience through the CW45 issues.

[mr surveyor]

am I glad I bought a XDs45 instead of a CW45???????


sheesh! Lose, Lose

[Decado]

They ain't all bad, I had two which both worked great, I'm currently carrying one as my edc ccw, sorry yours gave you problems.

[AFDoc]

am I glad I bought a XDs45 instead of a CW45???????


sheesh! Lose, Lose

I shot both the CW45 and the XDS 45 before I bought. The XDS was much more violent and actually painful for me to shoot. To each his own. My PM9 runs flawlessly and I expect the CW will as well. I also expect Springfield will fix yours thru the recall process.

[Bawanna]

I shot both the CW45 and the XDS 45 before I bought. The XDS was much more violent and actually painful for me to shoot. To each his own. My PM9 runs flawlessly and I expect the CW will as well. I also expect Springfield will fix yours thru the recall process.

I felt the same way, shooting my sons XDS beside my PM45. I could easily make the XDS more comfortable and to be fair I messed with the grip on the PM45 a little bit to make it more comfy too. But the grip on the XDS wasn't a strong point for me.
It was plenty accurate and I wouldn't mind having one anyhow, even now with the recall, they happen, they suck but they are part of life.

I know your CW45 will end up with a clean bill of health, I can feel it in my cells.

[h2ohhh]

My CW45 is a frigging sewing machine. Flawless after a short break in (had a couple FTE's in the first 50 rounds and no more many hundreds of rounds later). That said I shot a friends XDM-40 this weekend (the 5" model) and that was a sweet pistol. Put mucho holes very close together. Comes with a bunch of extra goodies too.

[moosedan]

Mine can back and works great I'm sure you be okay. Same issues.

[TheShadow]

AFDoc, it won't get lonely. My CW9 is currently keeping it company.

Terry

[AFDoc]

Got my CW45 back from Kahr. They said they reworked the barrel and replaced the recoil guide rod. No nose dives, but on round 2 and sometimes round 3 I'm getting a jam as shown in the pics. So I load 6 rounds into the mag, load the mag, release the slide, shoot, jam. Clear jam (round 2), sometimes get another jam (round 3) and sometimes shoot the rest of the mag just fine. It looks like the stripper on the bottom of the slide is caught in the groove in the brass casing. It's on its way back.

[doolan]

Did Kahr do anything with the mag springs? You mention trouble on the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then rest of mag shoots fine? Does this all happen with all types of ammo, standard and plus?

[jocko]

look at the kahrt tech secion under propper prepng of ur kahr, It talks about how to checkout that 2/3 round thing. U just ight have a mag release button grapping the follower in that exact area. easily fixable.

[cloud]

AFDoc, it won't get lonely. My CW9 is currently keeping it company.

Terry

I guess I have to call kahr Monday about my gun .They have had it since oct.2nd. Mine must be getting lonely .lol

[AFDoc]

Did Kahr do anything with the mag springs? You mention trouble on the 2nd and 3rd rounds, then rest of mag shoots fine? Does this all happen with all types of ammo, standard and plus?

No mention of the mag spring. I have noticed that the spring, when out of the mag, twists a bit on itself. Have only put ball ammo, standard pressure, thru it so far: Remington, Winchester, PMC, and Blazer Brass. Didn't make any difference.


look at the kahrt tech secion under propper prepng of ur kahr, It talks about how to checkout that 2/3 round thing. U just ight have a mag release button grapping the follower in that exact area. easily fixable.

I did the prep before loading the first cartridge. I had smoothed the follower before sending it back the first time.


I guess I have to call kahr Monday about my gun .They have had it since oct.2nd. Mine must be getting lonely .lol

Not lonely anymore...mine is back with them.

[AFDoc]

CW45 made its way back home today. Hopefully can get out this weekend to try it out. Spec sheet says they re-worked the slide. Happy turkey day!

[moosedan]

Run it with the magazine it came back with. I had some mag issues too. It's works great now.

[AFDoc]

out to the range today. Same issue; 2nd round failure to feed with nose up. Always the second round of 6. If I load 5 rounds or less, no issues. 2 trips to Kahr already; what should I do? About ready to sell. I love my PM9, has been great for 3+ years now.

[RRP]

That's disappointing.

I would not keep a self-defense gun that I couldn't be 100% confident with. There are other guns. My safety is worth it.

[bob98366]

AFDoc, have you tried lightly sanding/polishing the slanted portion of the slide stop? I had a similar problem early on with both my CW40s and this worked. Also, if I'm lazy and don't disassemble the magazine and clean all parts well, it will also get a second round failure to feed. YMMV. Best of luck.

[AFDoc]

AFDoc, have you tried lightly sanding/polishing the slanted portion of the slide stop? I had a similar problem early on with both my CW40s and this worked. Also, if I'm lazy and don't disassemble the magazine and clean all parts well, it will also get a second round failure to feed. YMMV. Best of luck.

Thanks Bob. The mag is well cleaned. Not sure what you sanded though. Pics?

[bob98366]

Thanks Bob. The mag is well cleaned. Not sure what you sanded though. Pics?

The arrow points to the slanted part that I deburred and smoothed out. The round being chambered passes this part on its way up the feed ramp.

[mr surveyor]

I shot both the CW45 and the XDS 45 before I bought. The XDS was much more violent and actually painful for me to shoot. To each his own. My PM9 runs flawlessly and I expect the CW will as well. I also expect Springfield will fix yours thru the recall process.


sorry about the "confusion" ..... I would have probably had better luck with the CW45, or at least as good .... had the XDs two weeks before the "recall", waited two months to get it back .... it left with a 6.5 lb trigger and came back with a 8.8 lb trigger.

Your current issues, similar to quite a few similar reports in the past couple of years, are the only reason I took the chance on the XDs. It seems that sometimes you win a few, and lose a few more (then you win)

I finally gave up on KelTecs because I didn't want to have to "Finish" them.

edit to add: my cw9 (and former cm9) works perfectly, and I'm still well pleased with the cw9 after 3 years. Very fine handgun (for plastic)

[AFDoc]

Thanks Bob. I'll check that part.

[dorangolv]

Got my CW45 back from Kahr. They said they reworked the barrel and replaced the recoil guide rod. No nose dives, but on round 2 and sometimes round 3 I'm getting a jam as shown in the pics. So I load 6 rounds into the mag, load the mag, release the slide, shoot, jam. Clear jam (round 2), sometimes get another jam (round 3) and sometimes shoot the rest of the mag just fine. It looks like the stripper on the bottom of the slide is caught in the groove in the brass casing. It's on its way back.

SAME WITH MY P45!!!

Is that Winchester White Box ammo?

It's been to Kahr already and they didn't fix it! Why do we have to do all of the hand finishing work to the slide, barrel, slide release lever, magazines and mag springs?
I've spent hours sanding, polishing, filing, cleaning, lubing, reading, etc., etc.
WTF?!?

[AFDoc]

Small gun, tight tolerances. Love my PM9. will keep working on the 45. Sanded the slide stop a little as the poster indicated but haven't shot it again yet. Can't say I will carry the 45 but not ready to give up yet. Kahr has been great working with me, even called me to ask more detail.

Did you do the Jocko prep? I've been thinking I might do it again. If I can't get it to work consistently in my hands, I'll sell it. At this point I'm not sure if it's the hardware or the interaction of me with this particular hardware.

[dorangolv]

:oI think I might have fixed the problem(s) with my P45. Haven't had any failures of any kind since making these repairs.:eek::D:001_tt2::amflag:
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=21904

[cltyus1]

The rod came out of the end of mine while shooting yesterday, which is why I don't carry it smh

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[gb6491]

The rod came out of the end of mine while shooting yesterday, which is why I don't carry it smh

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What rod?
If it's the guide rod (and it's not damaged), I suspect you have the recoil spring's ends reversed.
Regards,
Greg

[jocko]

Is not the P45 guide rod ONE PEACE??? How can it come out the front unless what GB6491 stated happened. Unless the gude rod end cap is broken off, other wise I would say it just cannot happen unless there is a mis-put togther scenario..