Fullsize pistol non Kahr?

[Fxstchewy]

What would you recommend as a fullsize pistol similar to a CM9, grip angle/ trigger pull but around $500 or less, don't think there is a fullsize Kahr in that range. using a CM9 for CCW but looking for something for range/HD. Thanks.

[RevRay]

The title of your thread suggested you were looking for a non-Kahr recommendation, but the body of your post suggested you might like to know if there is a Kahr answer.

So, I would ask if you've considered a Kahr K9 or E9? If you look hard enough they can be found$500, and they do give you a full grip on the handle ... at least my E9 gives me a gull grip in any case.

[Fxstchewy]

If i could find a fullsize Kahr around 500 i would look into it, not many shops close to me that carry anything other than PM's/CM's and CW's. would want to handle it before buying it.

[jeepster09]

I second the k9 or look at a Beretta 92.

[ParabellumJ]

What would you recommend as a fullsize pistol similar to a CM9, grip angle/ trigger pull but around $500 or less, don't think there is a fullsize Kahr in that range. using a CM9 for CCW but looking for something for range/HD. Thanks.

A quality full size pistol for range or home defense in the $500 range? If you want striker fired there is the Glock 17 and M&P 9. Most will say the grip on the M&P is better, and it is, but the trigger leaves a lot to be desired. If you would consider hammer fired, I recommend a CZ 75 variant. There are lots to choose from. Manual safety/decocker, steel/polymer frame, rail/no rail. All have excellent ergonomics and are quality guns, and many can be found new in the $500 range or less. I'm sure there are plenty more options, but those would be my first choices.

[Armybrat]

Ruger SR9 - under $500.

Excellent pistol with excellent ergonomics. They fit the hand very comfortably.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9/images/3301.jpg

[getsome]

A K9 would be sweet if you an find a nice one...A great alternative I always advise people who want a full size all steel gun at a very good price is any S&W Gen III pistol...lots are cop trade in's that have low round counts, carried much, shot little....Check out a 6906 9mm which can be had for less than $400.00 and S&W will honor the lifetime warranty and parts, magazines are plentiful....A great shooting (heavy) all steel, last a lifetime pistol....

[Fxstchewy]

Ruger SR9 - under $500.

Excellent pistol with excellent ergonomics. They fit the hand very comfortably.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9/images/3301.jpg

Actually was thinking of this or a S&W SD9VE, Hickok45 on youtube said the SD9 trigger felt like a Kahr trigger.

[b4uqzme]

Your thread asks for three features besides the price: grip angle, Kahr-like trigger, full size.

Trying to meet all three you might want to check out polymer DAO Sig Sauers...like the P250. Then again if a K model Kahr is big enough...but you cannot find one...was a CW the size you are after? There is always the T or TP models. That's the largest Kahr makes. You might be able to find one used in your price range. Maybe. A CW is within your limit. The most Kahr-like trigger I've been able to find in a different brand is Para Ordnance LDA. They used to be made in various sizes and they are still available used...but just a bit over your range. $7-800 is common but you could find less. I saw one for $600. For me it's like a k45 if Kahr made one. All stainless.

I think there are options if you research. These are just some ideas...not recommendations.

[jocko]

Ruger SR9 - under $500.

Excellent pistol with excellent ergonomics. They fit the hand very comfortably.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9/images/3301.jpg

is a nice gun the ruger, but I ould never really cuddle up to that model. For me it just doesn't look right:behindsofa:

[RevRay]

If i could find a fullsize Kahr around 500 i would look into it, not many shops close to me that carry anything other than PM's/CM's and CW's. would want to handle it before buying it.

If you like the feel of a CW9, then you would definitely like the feel of a K9. I bought my E9 without ever having seen or handled one, and I love it. From my MK9 I knew I liked all metal, and I knew I wanted something slightly bigger, so I figured that a K9/E9 was a no-brainer.

Here's one on Armslist.com for $400.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2228906/charlotte-north-carolina-handguns-for-sale--kahr-e9-brand-new

[b4uqzme]

A K9 would be sweet if you an find a nice one...A great alternative I always advise people who want a full size all steel gun at a very good price is any S&W Gen III pistol...lots are cop trade in's that have low round counts, carried much, shot little....Check out a 6906 9mm which can be had for less than $400.00 and S&W will honor the lifetime warranty and parts, magazines are plentiful....A great shooting (heavy) all steel, last a lifetime pistol....

I wanted a SW GenIII until I held one. Definitely hold one before you buy one. Many swear by them but I didn't like it at all. That was a shame because it is a great gun for the $$$.

[Fxstchewy]

If you like the feel of a CW9, then you would definitely like the feel of a K9. I bought my E9 without ever having seen or handled one, and I love it. From my MK9 I knew I liked all metal, and I knew I wanted something slightly bigger, so I figured that a K9/E9 was a no-brainer.

Here's one on Armslist.com for $400.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2228906/charlotte-north-carolina-handguns-for-sale--kahr-e9-brand-new

Not far from me, have to check that out. Thanks.

[chrish]

Closest thing I ever found was the Sig P250, if you want double-stack and capacity. It's DAO, so a _similar_ trigger, but the length of pull is greater and its a tad heavier than a Kahr. But for a range/training gun for having a Kahr as a carry weapon, definitely an option.

[berettabone]

Actually was thinking of this or a S&W SD9VE, Hickok45 on youtube said the SD9 trigger felt like a Kahr trigger.
Had one in .40..................nice grip, good price..........traded it for a P220 sas................it just felt a bit cheap................

[yqtszhj]

[QUOTE=b4uqzme;269075]
Trying to meet all three you might want to check out polymer DAO Sig Sauers...like the P250.
QUOTE]

That is exactly what I was thinking.

I looked at them recently but ended up purchasing something elase that was DA/SA. More to come on that...

[VN Vet]

I paid a little around 550 bucks for a new Kahr TP45 at my LGS this past Summer. Today it is my EDC Pistol. For me it is a sweet accurate mid-sized 45.

[warbird1]

Picked up a S&W Gen III last week in 45acp for $400 and it is a keeper. I also would suggest the Sig P6. All metal and can be found in the $350 to $400 range. It's DA/SA and 9mm.

[Xdmac45]

Cw9 is my favorite and a glock19 gen4 second beretta FS92 third.

[DeaconKC]

The third generation S&Ws can have either a curved or straight grip, which is easily swapped. Try both!

[knkali]

my 2 centavos:
The newest S&W MP 9 has a better trig FWIW so I lean toward that. I have one. Eats ANYTHING I feed it. I put it through the test. It was dropped in the dirt, has not been cleaned in the last 600 rnds and it still is ready to go. BUT if you could find one close to $500, The Sig P226 is great another option. Good ergos, great trig, good capacity, well made. I prefer American made though.

[hardluk1]

It's gona be hard to find just what you want with both the trigger pull type and straight legged grip. Kahrs tp series could pass as a full size to some but price runs closer to 468lgs price. It has 4" barrel but grip size and angleis full size a 1911 like from RIA will have the same grip angle and with thin grips and it the same practical size as a . There mid size is the same practical size as the tp just heavier. This fs-tactical 45 5" was 468 lgs priced the GI model sells for around 408. Stock trigger pull is 5lb to 5 1/2lb just sa.
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[hardluk1]

double post

[downtownv]

Closest thing I ever found was the Sig P250, if you want double-stack and capacity. It's DAO, so a _similar_ trigger, but the length of pull is greater and its a tad heavier than a Kahr. But for a range/training gun for having a Kahr as a carry weapon, definitely an option.
In a full size pistol Sigs are the way to go IMO

[chrish]

In a full size pistol Sigs are the way to go IMO

But keep in mind my 'suggestion' on the P250 is a plastic Sig...not really a 'Sig' in the sense that most people want a 'Sig'. However, you can get the P226 and P229 (as well as other all metal Sigs) in the DAK variant so that it behaves like the P250 in that pseudo-Kahr long DAO trigger.

[TheTman]

My SIG P250 is about as close to the Kahr trigger as anything I've run across. CTD has them for $538, with night sights. They are packing them with 10 round mags, but their are standard capacity mags available.
If I get another 9, it's probably going to be one of the models of the CZ-75.
I'm not much into trying to match one pistols characteristics in another brand of pistol, there is always going to be some difference. A friend has that Ruger mentioned earlier, and it's not bad at all. The trigger is somewhat Kahr-like, except it has that Glock style split trigger. CTD has them for around $450. I'd go with the SIG. It comes with night sights.

[garyb]

I've got 2 M&P full size. Nothing like the Kahr. Totally different creatures. But I love em all. If you want a full size to match your Kahr, then buy a Kahr. Just because your local gun shops don't have one in stock, go look elsewhere and buy it there or have your gun shop order you one. Seems simple to me.

[O'Dell]

I wanted a SW GenIII until I held one. Definitely hold one before you buy one. Many swear by them but I didn't like it at all. That was a shame because it is a great gun for the $$$.

I'm one of those who really likes them. I've had six or seven all metal Gen 3 S&W's, but I'm now down to one, a 45 cal CS45. Unfortunately, burglars also seem to like them. They are quite light for their size if you get the alloy frame, and they are 100% reliable.

[johnh]

I vote for the T series Kahrs if you want the grip shape and trigger pull, but a larger grip than the middle sized models. They are very comfortable, but still very flat and concealable. If you get something in the same caliber as smaller Kahrs you own, that gives you extended mags for them from the T series too.

[DeaconKC]

Another thing to consider is magazine availability and price.

[Alfonse]

So many great pistols to choose from. I don't remember it being like that 30 years ago.

[yqtszhj]

So many great pistols to choose from. I don't remember it being like that 30 years ago.

I was younger then but I remember mostly 1911's and revolvers.

[Alfonse]

I was younger then but I remember mostly 1911's and revolvers.

That was what I was thinking when I wrote earlier. There are literally so many fantastic pistols available these days. My preferences these days are for ergonomics, construction, preference for a particular type of action, etc.

Those preferences shift depending on the use of the pistol. There are literally more different, high quality, brands than I have the time to try them all or room in the safe.

I guess I feel pretty lucky and spoiled.

I do remember some guns, like the Stoeger version of the Luger in .22 cal, that were fun at the time. Most were choosy about what ammo worked or were well beneath the reliability that is commonplace today.