glock new york trigger

[snatch]

anyone ever had any experience with the new york triggers for glocks? ive read that its supposed to make the trigger pull heavier and longer like a revolver. i thought that this might help in the transition between revolvers or my kahr and glocks. any useful input is appreciated

[kahrseye]

anyone ever had any experience with the new york triggers for glocks? ive read that its supposed to make the trigger pull heavier and longer like a revolver. i thought that this might help in the transition between revolvers or my kahr and glocks. any useful input is appreciated

When I bought my G27, it came with a NY trigger. It's just a little harder to pull the trigger. I don't think it is any longer than the regular trigger, just harder to pull. I swapped it out for a standard glock trigger. It's a little easier to shoot now. I don't think it's going to help you get accustomed to the Kahr trigger any sooner. You just got to shoot it and practice. I found no problem getting used to the Kahr trigger. By the end of the 200 round break in I was good to go. Also, you can dry fire it or use snap caps to practice with. No biggie.:cool:

[Bawanna]

When I bought my G27, it came with a NY trigger. It's just a little harder to pull the trigger. I don't think it is any longer than the regular trigger, just harder to pull. I swapped it out for a standard glock trigger. It's a little easier to shoot now. I don't think it's going to help you get accustomed to the Kahr trigger any sooner. You just got to shoot it and practice. I found no problem getting used to the Kahr trigger. By the end of the 200 round break in I was good to go. Also, you can dry fire it or use snap caps to practice with. No biggie.:cool:

Agreed on all counts, had I not seen this post I probably would have said exactly the same thing.

[snatch]

i guess i need to clarify. im used to the kahr trigger already. i think the glock is a little light. for range duty and a nightstand gun i think it would be fine. but for carry, id like something a little heavier. thats one of the main reasons i like the kahr so much, very little chance of an accidental discharge. i know the glocks wont go boom unless you pull the trigger, but its alot shorter and lighter than the kahr. i wouldnt want to discharge my weapon before i actually meant to (sounds like a bedroom problem doesnt it?)

[Bawanna]

i guess i need to clarify. im used to the kahr trigger already. i think the glock is a little light. for range duty and a nightstand gun i think it would be fine. but for carry, id like something a little heavier. thats one of the main reasons i like the kahr so much, very little chance of an accidental discharge. i know the glocks wont go boom unless you pull the trigger, but its alot shorter and lighter than the kahr. i wouldnt want to discharge my weapon before i actually meant to (sounds like a bedroom problem doesnt it?)

With your clarification the NY trigger would indeed fill the bill. It takes a harder more meaningful pull to fire. Many competitive shooter prefer the NY trigger. I can't grasp exactly why but I've heard it numerous times. It's easy to install and not terribly expensive as I recall. If you don't like it it's easy to go back. You most likely have a 5# now but if you have a 3# you might even try the 5. MOst I believe come with the 5.

[jlottmc]

Five and one half actually, and yes stock is 5.5, there are 2 NY triggers a 12 and 14-15 lb. types. I would measure the weight on a set of dead weights, and my guess is you have a 3.5 lb trigger. Cheaper Than Dirt has everything but the dead weights.

[Bawanna]

Five and one half actually, and yes stock is 5.5, there are 2 NY triggers a 12 and 14-15 lb. types. I would measure the weight on a set of dead weights, and my guess is you have a 3.5 lb trigger. Cheaper Than Dirt has everything but the dead weights.

Are you a phsycic? Why would you guess he has a 3.5lb trigger if stock is 5.5lb. I'm not looking for a fight or anything, you could be exactly correct just curious why you would guess that. The odds don't seem good to me. But you did say you played craps so maybe you got an inside track.
Funny how we or at least I forget little stuff. I remembered 5 but forgot the half???? I think they also have another name for them 2 NY triggers but danged if I recall what they are. Perhaps stiff and stiffer, hard and harder, dang we're back to looking at my rods side by side.

Now snatch (not you honey, I'm on kahrtalk!) has to weigh or determine his trigger so that we know or we'll go into eternity clueless as to what he really has. Seems like there's markings on that assembly that tells you what you got, near positive. I shall check my book tomorrow for those of us who just gotta know.

[jlottmc]

Though I don't like Glock I am familiar with they SOP, they can be bought with the 3.5, though not in the mini's, if the gun was bought used, then the most common thing that people complain about (the first time buyers) is the weight of the triggers, so the first mod they do is the 3.5 lb trigger. So if bought used, then odds are better than 50/50 that the 3.5 lb is in the gun. The other side of that coin is that most people find the 5.5 lb pull weight just about right to a little heavy, especially if coming form a 1911, the NY-1 and NY-2, are definitely heavier. A lot of wheel gunners don't mind that kind of heavy pull, but most people don't want a lighter trigger. Incidentally, those were designed at the behest of the NYC PD, and are called either NY-1(2) or NYC-1(2). Just what I've seen. Again, not looking for a fight here either, but that would be my guess. If I could handle the piece then I could tell you but...:rolleyes:

[Bawanna]

Though I don't like Glock I am familiar with they SOP, they can be bought with the 3.5, though not in the mini's, if the gun was bought used, then the most common thing that people complain about (the first time buyers) is the weight of the triggers, so the first mod they do is the 3.5 lb trigger. So if bought used, then odds are better than 50/50 that the 3.5 lb is in the gun. The other side of that coin is that most people find the 5.5 lb pull weight just about right to a little heavy, especially if coming form a 1911, the NY-1 and NY-2, are definitely heavier. A lot of wheel gunners don't mind that kind of heavy pull, but most people don't want a lighter trigger. Incidentally, those were designed at the behest of the NYC PD, and are called either NY-1(2) or NYC-1(2). Just what I've seen. Again, not looking for a fight here either, but that would be my guess. If I could handle the piece then I could tell you but...:rolleyes:

Your odds have improved but he never even mentioned what model he has. Don't even know if it's a mini or maxi. I think only a small majority of people even mess with stuff like we're talking. They just accept it for what it is and for many maybe that's a good thing. I know NY really liked them so nervous perhaps not fully trained officers have to deliberatly really want to pull that thing. If they aren't good shots with a light trigger I suspect the heavy doensn't improve things much. Now I just gotta know what he's got. Maybe you really are a pyschic, I gotta work on spelling that. I used to be really good at it but I think I been hanging out with Jocko too much.

[snatch]

Sorry to dissapoint guys,but its been years since I've had a glock.I switched to a smith and wesson m&p when they first came out.I felt it had a better grip angle and I liked the trigger better.when I had my glock 19,I would give a SWAG that the trigger was 5 pounds.I base this on the fact that it was heavier than a 1911 and lighter than a revolver.with the new improvements to glocks lately like ambidextrous controls and interchangable backstraps I've been thinking of giving them another try.you can't argue with their track record or reliability.I always had a tendency to shoot left with glocks but the m&p is dead on for me.I'd like to try one of the latest generations out before I make a decision( an m&p fullsize 45 is the competition). The increased trigger pull would make me feel a littler better as this would also double as a nightstand gun.don't want the old lady accidently shooting me.don't want her to hear me call her old lady either

[gb6491]

i guess i need to clarify. im used to the kahr trigger already. i think the glock is a little light. for range duty and a nightstand gun i think it would be fine. but for carry, id like something a little heavier. thats one of the main reasons i like the kahr so much, very little chance of an accidental discharge. i know the glocks wont go boom unless you pull the trigger, but its alot shorter and lighter than the kahr. i wouldnt want to discharge my weapon before i actually meant to (sounds like a bedroom problem doesnt it?)
I have a NY1 module (spring) and a "-" connector (often referred to as a 3.5# connector) in my G27.
Several reasons for this:
The NY1 module makes the initial portion of the Glock's trigger pull heaver and firmer (eliminating the initial slack of the stock Glock trigger pull).
The "-" connector reduces some of the pull weight added by the NY1 module: combined, the two give (IMO) a smooth and pretty consistent (especially after some use) trigger pull from start to finish.
The trigger reset is firmer with the NY module.
There is some redundancy with the NY module as well; if the spring on it were to break, the plastic portion will still provide enough "spring" to reset the trigger.
I mostly carry IWB and like that the trigger is a little heavier with this setup (especially at the beginning).

FWIW: the two NY trigger modules are usually thought of as delivering 8 (NY1) and 12 (NY2) pound trigger pulls. Here is some good reading on Glock trigger pull options:
The real story Glock trigger pull weights: Glock critics say its trigger pull is too light. It may be that they've been weighing it wrong | Guns Magazine | Find Articles at BNET (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_11_50/ai_n6209982/)
Glockmeister - Tech Info (http://glockmeister.com/pages.php?cID=3&pID=25)

The obligatory gun porn:
http://i46.tinypic.com/29o07f6.jpg
Even though I'm fond of it, I don't carry my G27 as much these days (crappy cell phone photo of yesterday's range session with my CW45):
http://i41.tinypic.com/35b5u79.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[jlottmc]

I always thought that Glock would not have 3.5 lb setup (springs or connector) in the baby pistols. Wow, I really need to bone up on them again, because I also thought that the weights were 12, and 14-15 respectively. I'd heard that there are some out there with 16-20 lb pulls. I'd be interested to see what the weight is on yours, with that spring and connector set up.

[gb6491]

I always thought that Glock would not have 3.5 lb setup (springs or connector) in the baby pistols. Wow, I really need to bone up on them again, because I also thought that the weights were 12, and 14-15 respectively. I'd heard that there are some out there with 16-20 lb pulls. I'd be interested to see what the weight is on yours, with that spring and connector set up.
My G27 came with a 5# connector from the factory, but I know of no requirement (other than it's pretty light for a concealed carry pistol and Glock normally only puts it, as a factory setup, in their long slide "competition" guns) why they couldn't come with a "-" connector and standard spring. They do need the serrated ("target") trigger to make importation points.

I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but using a dowel, stiff rubber hose and bathroom scale (ain't that scientific in a Jethro Bodine kind of way:D), I see my G27's trigger breaking at a smidgen (scientific again) over six pounds.

Personally, I think that a Glock with a 16-20lbs. trigger pull is defective or has parts installed that would make it unreliable.
The NY2 and 5# connector are supposed to give the heaviest pull, followed by the stock spring and "+" (8#) connector; somewhere around 10 lbs. pull. You quite often see admonition against using the "+" connector and NY2 module as the gun could be unreliable with this setup.

Regards,
Greg

[MattTheKnife]

Some of this may be have already been said:

If you're worried the standard Glock trigger pull (approx 5.5lbs) is too lite, then you want the NY1 (approx 8lbs). I tried the NY1s in my Glocks and shot as well with those as I did with the standard spring. I tried the NY1s because I had heard they were a different, more robust unit. Meaning: they were less prone to break. And they are.

Ultimately, I went back to the standard spring because that is what I am used to. I replace my trigger springs every year and am no longer concerned about the breakage.

My advice:
Give the NY1 a try. They only cost $3.00 and don't negatively effect the accuracy. If you don't like them, go back to the original spring.

Avoid the NY2 spring (approx 12lbs). This would seem to negatively effect your accuracy.

Leave the connector that came with your Glock alone. Only the competition models come with the reduced power connector (and standard spring) and give the Glock a 3.5lb trigger pull. For a target/competition pistol, this is fine. But if this is a carry weapon, it is tough (not impossible) to justify why you intentionally made your gun easier to shoot. However, making the trigger heavier to avoid neglegent discharges is easy to justify.

I've never met anyone who was happy with the competition connector/NY1 combination. It brings the trigger pull to that of the standard weight.

[jlottmc]

Interesting thoughts, I have been out of the Glock loop for some time. I just don't play with them too much. Good information too. Thanks.

[jocko]

Nice commentss Matt the knife. Been away from glocks for to many years. Own a G19 but other than having a nice tuning job done on it, I just shoot it like I stole it. Most accurate gun I have ever shot, for me that is for sure, but it just can't replacemy PM9 for concealability, so it is relagated to a home gun along with my K9.

Good Inof ont he NY triggers though, I forgot all about the different poundages etc...