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TheShadow
11-07-2013, 11:47 AM
My Kahr CW9 Break-In Saga: Part 2 - The End!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyDc9SKoZE


Bottom line:
Positive- No more problems with trigger reset.
Negative- Constant magazine insertion slide drop malfunctions.
Final result: Only 30 more rounds fired. Under feed ramp nosedive jam
puts gun out of action, Vise and tools required to clear.
Final verdict: Loss of confidence in gun. Gun will be sold.

I'd like to thank everyone on this forum who tried to help me with this pistol!

Terry

cltyus1
11-07-2013, 12:19 PM
Sorry it didn't work, can't blame you

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TheShadow
11-07-2013, 02:13 PM
Thanks. Me too. I really did like the looks and feel of the CW9.

Terry

jocko
11-07-2013, 03:44 PM
what was that ol series called back many years ago.

ONLY THE SHADOW KNOWS

TheShadow
11-11-2013, 09:08 AM
Upon further reflection I've decided to take the advice of you fine folks here and give Kahr another chance to make this pistol right. I'll contact Jay again and send him pictures of the jam along with the the gun and all my magazines. I still won't carry it but I do want it right before selling it to someone else. I'll report back on what happens. And yes, if it works fine when I get it back I will post a YT video showing that. If it still malfunctions I'll post that too. I'm nothing if not fair.

Terry

kerby9mm
11-11-2013, 09:13 AM
I read your decision on the 1911 forum but I see you have reconsidered. Why not. Maybe they can fix it.

TheShadow
11-14-2013, 10:23 AM
Well, the CW9 along with all 4 of my magazines are on the way to Kahr again. I'll report back on it when I have something to report.

Terry

muggsy
11-14-2013, 08:05 PM
Hang in there shadow. Kahr will make it right or they will replace it. When you bought the gun it came with a five year warranty. If you have anymore problems there are plenty of people on this message board that can and will help you through them.

codegeek
11-14-2013, 08:39 PM
I watched your videos. I can tell you from personal experience the CW9 is a fine gun and worth persevering for...

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chrish
11-14-2013, 08:39 PM
You are a better man than me. I would still buy/try another Kahr at some point. I never consider a problem w/ a particular gun to be indicative of the entire product line, even in the same model. But I'd have to call it done on that one. If they fix it, and cover the shipping, cool.

RRP
11-15-2013, 04:40 PM
After watching the entire 10 minute video, I am lost for words.

Sadly, inexperience shooters will read this thread or watch the video and believe the gun is defective.

TheShadow
11-15-2013, 04:57 PM
After watching the entire 10 minute video, I am lost for words.

Sadly, inexperience shooters will read this thread or watch the video and believe the gun is defective.

And that would be because the gun IS defective.

Terry

berettabone
11-15-2013, 06:42 PM
Funny, a ten minute video, and only shows him shooting the firearm with no problems................why wouldn't you video the problems also, as long as you're there? Just seems a bit strange to me.....................

TheShadow
11-15-2013, 07:57 PM
Funny, a ten minute video, and only shows him shooting the firearm with no problems................why wouldn't you video the problems also, as long as you're there? Just seems a bit strange to me.....................

02:23 reported on first slide drop malfunction which occurred on second mag.
03:15 reported on second slide drop malfunction occurring on third mag.
Had further slide drop malfunctions but didn't think you'd want to have to sit through that much repetition.
03:49 reported on nosedive jam which ended the shoot.

You must have watched the wrong video!

Terry

chrish
11-15-2013, 08:36 PM
Not trying to be argumentative or accusatory, but one question...any chance you had some other folks shoot it?

TheShadow
11-15-2013, 08:54 PM
As a matter of fact, yes. My cameraman shot the last 2 magazines and was loading it when the jam occurred.

Terry

chrish
11-15-2013, 09:11 PM
So, did he drop the slide using the slide release, or did he attempt to sling-shot it? One thing many Kahr's will not do out of the box is chamber a round that way, you have to drop the slide w/ the slide release. In sling shotting it, many people ride it just enough to prevent the round from chambering. Due to the weight of the small slide on a Kahr and the steepness of the feed ramp, needs every bit of inertia it can get.

Still, doesn't _really_ explain being jammed up tighter than you know what...that's just odd. Had my PM9 do that out of the box, once, b/c I rode the slide too slowly. It was a royal PIA to free up. After that, never a problem.


Just tryin' to help...

kerby9mm
11-16-2013, 01:22 AM
There must be some difference in angles or whatever it is between steel & polymer Kahrs. Just to test for the hell of it I can ride the slides as slow as one can do it & both my mk40 & mk9 will chamber the first round smoothly & completely. The round does not nosedive. Go figure.

berettabone
11-16-2013, 09:37 AM
02:23 reported on first slide drop malfunction which occurred on second mag.
03:15 reported on second slide drop malfunction occurring on third mag.
Had further slide drop malfunctions but didn't think you'd want to have to sit through that much repetition.
03:49 reported on nosedive jam which ended the shoot.

You must have watched the wrong video!

Terry
No, I saw the right video...saw you shoot it once. I like repetition. If you're going to make a video chastising a firearm, show everything, otherwise it looks like bull.

chrish
11-16-2013, 01:01 PM
There must be some difference in angles or whatever it is between steel & polymer Kahrs. Just to test for the hell of it I can ride the slides as slow as one can do it & both my mk40 & mk9 will chamber the first round smoothly & completely. The round does not nosedive. Go figure.



Might well be some differences in the steel vs poly models in that regard. I've never played with or owned an all steel Kahr. A T9 is only long list, but not anytime soon. FWIW, after a significant break-in, my P9 started chambering just fine sling-shotting, even when slow riding the slide. So it's not just the angle at play, at least not w/ mine, its probably a combo of things. Hoping my TP9 gets there eventually, but for now, it's still a bit tempermental when slow riding the slide...typically have to spank it on the butt.

jocko
11-16-2013, 02:22 PM
wellthe barrels are different, so that makes some good sense. Nuttin says they hav eto be the sameeither.

TheShadow
11-16-2013, 04:08 PM
No, I saw the right video...saw you shoot it once. I like repetition. If you're going to make a video chastising a firearm, show everything, otherwise it looks like bull.

Watch part 1. You'll see plenty of repetitive malfunctions there.

Terry

TheShadow
11-16-2013, 04:10 PM
So, did he drop the slide using the slide release, or did he attempt to sling-shot it? One thing many Kahr's will not do out of the box is chamber a round that way, you have to drop the slide w/ the slide release. In sling shotting it, many people ride it just enough to prevent the round from chambering. Due to the weight of the small slide on a Kahr and the steepness of the feed ramp, needs every bit of inertia it can get.

Still, doesn't _really_ explain being jammed up tighter than you know what...that's just odd. Had my PM9 do that out of the box, once, b/c I rode the slide too slowly. It was a royal PIA to free up. After that, never a problem.


Just tryin' to help...

Yes, as a matter of fact he did. Just as he did with the 2 mags he shot previous to the one that jammed. Just as he has with his own CW9 for the 100 malfunction free rounds he's put through it.

Terry

chrish
11-16-2013, 10:21 PM
Yes, as a matter of fact he did. Just as he did with the 2 mags he shot previous to the one that jammed. Just as he has with his own CW9 for the 100 malfunction free rounds he's put through it.

Terry

Well, sounds like you are headed down the correct path with Kahr at this point. Hopefully they'll straighten it out. 2 shooters, 2 of the same model gun, one seemingly trouble free, one flaking out. Gotta go with some level of a gun related issue. I hope you don't take too much offense with the other comments that have been made. And vice-versa from their perspective on your initial complaints due to the video and it kinda 'breaking away' w/ no real footage of the issue other than that round jammed in there. There is an inordinate amount of complaining that occurs here about Kahr and 80% (maybe more) of it is never the fault of the gun. It's hard to weed out over the internet and not actually being right there w/ the firearm. Hope you get your CW straightened out.

TheShadow
11-17-2013, 08:58 AM
I'm not easily offended nor is it ever my intention to offend anyone else. As for the videos; I've had too many complaints that my videos are too long and don't get to the point fast enough. So, rather than try to show each and every individual malfunction I tried to strike a balance for the sake of time.

Terry