CM40 going back. Wait Time?

[A_White]

Been lurking on here awhile and never posted, but like the title says. My cm40 is going back to Karh. I've only got 40 rds through it so far so I'm expecting some quirks, but the replacement mag follower broke within the first couple rounds. Also there is something going on with the trigger too, it will not fire unless you get all the way through the trigger pull and squeeze hard. Mag will also release sometimes when it fires.

I've only shot the gun a couple different times, and cleaned/oiled it with info from youtube/kahr and a diagram I found here. I may have messed something up during reassembly but I'm not sure as I just did the basic barrel/spring break down.

Anyway Kahr was really easy to deal with and had already sent a replacement follower once, but I'm thinking the feed ramp may need some tlc plus the other issues. I shipped it back today via prepaid fedex.


Anyone else had to send a gun in? What kind of time frame am I looking at?

[jocko]

between9 and 11 months.. give or take. Just sayin

[getsome]

Hello A White and welcome to Kahrtalk....Sorry your new pistol is having some hickups but you are doing the right thing send it back and it really sounds yours has a couple things that need to be adjusted....From what we are hearing the turn around time is pretty good like 10 days to a max of a couple weeks give or take a day or two....

Let us know what they find on yours when you get her back...I'm sure they will make it right and then you can get on with the break in and enjoy shooting it in the future...Again welcome and if you have any questions just ask away....Good luck....

[getsome]

Oh and don't listen to that old fart....He's like Uncle Fester, we keep him handcuffed to a pipe in the basement mostly but sometimes he gets loose....:spider:

[b4uqzme]

Welcome AW. I don't recommend you listen to Ol Jocko. Unless he says something right. But don't hold your breath.

Sounds like you are doing the right thing. It shouldn't be long.

[kerby9mm]

After 2 weeks I would call them. Chances are you won't find out exactly what was wrong with your gun unless you speak to Kahr. They tend to generalize on the paper they send back with the gun. This is from my experience about 2 years ago.

[A_White]

Ok 2 weeks is pretty good really. I'm ready to get it back and shoot it a bunch, so I can get my ccw. For obvious reasons I'm not comfortable using it for protection or my ccw course. Been looking at a lcp for my primary edc gun. My dad just got one and they disappear in your pocket. I thought the .40 was small.

[O'Dell]

I've had an LCP since my son gave it to me for Christmas three years ago. The fact that it was a gift is the only reason I've kept it. The trigger is terrible, the sights are non-existent, and a 380 falls below my minimums in a carry gun. After Kahr breathes on it, make the CM40 your EDC. A 40 S&W is pretty good, but a 45 is even better. [Let Jocko chew on that awhile]

BTW, welcome to the madhouse!

[MBSL500]

I just picked up the "new" version LCP.
It has much shorter trigger travel and actual sights.
The gun is fantastic.
With 380 buffalo bore hollow points, it'll get the job done.




I've had an LCP since my son gave it to me for Christmas three years ago. The fact that it was a gift is the only reason I've kept it. The trigger is terrible, the sights are non-existent, and a 380 falls below my minimums in a carry gun. After Kahr breathes on it, make the CM40 your EDC. A 40 S&W is pretty good, but a 45 is even better. [Let Jocko chew on that awhile]

BTW, welcome to the madhouse!

[kerby9mm]

I have a really nice sig p238 Equinox but I also decided that the 380 ballistics were not acceptable so I opted for a S&W scandium 357 snub. My mk9 & mk40 are still shot but not carried as often as before.

[codegeek]

Mine came back within two weeks...

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[muggsy]

You guys are being just a little too hard on old Jocko. He coming from the under promise and over deliver school of thought. If he told Mr. White that he'd have his gun back in two weeks and it took three Mr White would be disappointed. If he told him nine months and Mr. White got it back in three weeks he'd be thrilled. There's method to Jocko's madness, but it's still madness. Now go back and unchain Jocko from that pole in the basement.

[muggsy]

With all of these guns going back for service I believe that it's time for Kahr to institute a loaner program. If you have to send you gun back Kahr should send you a loaner to shoot until yours comes back. I'm going to run this one up Jay's flagpole to see if he salutes. And you thought that ol' Jocko was crazy.

[otium]

First one, out of four, I ever had to send back was a couple of months ago. Took two weeks and a day for it to return. Works great now. Hope your experience is similar.

[jocko]

With all of these guns going back for service I believe that it's time for Kahr to institute a loaner program. If you have to send you gun back Kahr should send you a loaner to shoot until yours comes back. I'm going to run this one up Jay's flagpole to see if he salutes. And you thought that ol' Jocko was crazy.

muggsy but this forum has u pegged. Ur a nut case so to try to defend ol jocko as bein crazy is like calling the kettle black. IT HAS NO MEANING.

Now if Bawanna said and defended that ol jocko was not crazy, it would have relevance, or or. U would be gone fromt he forum pronto.

Next time u decide to preach look out from ur podium and see if anyone is there listening:Amflag2:

I did hear by word of mouth though that you really gave a nice talk at the Helen Keller institute. I bet they were really impressed.:D:D:D

[b4uqzme]

Now if Bawanna said and defended that ol jocko was not crazy, it would have relevance, or or. U would be gone fromt he forum pronto.



I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that one either. :rolleyes:

[muggsy]

muggsy but this forum has u pegged. Ur a nut case so to try to defend ol jocko as bein crazy is like calling the kettle black. IT HAS NO MEANING.

Now if Bawanna said and defended that ol jocko was not crazy, it would have relevance, or or. U would be gone fromt he forum pronto.

Next time u decide to preach look out from ur podium and see if anyone is there listening:Amflag2:

I did hear by word of mouth though that you really gave a nice talk at the Helen Keller institute. I bet they were really impressed.:D:D:D

I just wish that they had given me some sign. :)

[O'Dell]

Am I just lucky? I'm 0 for 7 in the Kahr send back race and the three I still have run fine.

[muggsy]

Am I just lucky? I'm 0 for 7 in the Kahr send back race and the three I still have run fine.

That's rather sad really. Now you'll never know the joy of having your gun repaired by Kahr service. :(

[dbp67]

On a serious note -- How common is it for a Kahr to have to be returned for repair? I sure do see a lot of posts and references to return to factory issues.

I frequent the Glock, Sig and Ruger forums and while there is the occasional return for Sig, I don't remember many- if any- return to factory issues for Ruger or Glock.

And while there are those that post here of returns I am sure that there are a greater number of Kahr owners that have never had that issue arise.

Just wondering.

[jocko]

not sure about percentages, but I can tellu that over 1200 Glock 22's that the Indians State police wne to someyears back . Alot went back, so many that Glock stepped in at the request of the ISP and replaced every one of them with a G17 which they carry to this day. I won't alibi for kahr, they have had some issues that in time gets fixed but IMO when u make a smallass gun like kahr does that is so light in weight, sometimes things just don'twork out right. Kahr fixes what thye sell but to some that doesn't make them happy and they just move on. It is what it is. U might buy a kahr today and it might not work either5, then it is ur choice to come on this forum and call it a POS and ur gonna peddle it and never come back or u can let kahr fix it and in time u will forget about ever sendng it back.

My G19 went back once, I love it to death to this day, best shooter I have ever had.Glock fixed it. My 100k pORSCHE STOPPED RUNING AT 600 MILES. Porsche came and picked it up and fixed it and brought it back and then send me a check for
$600 with apology, I would buy anutter one today. Sh!t happens, when it happens to you it is never a good thing. Guns are not immune fro issues any more than other products made by man and sold to the general public..

Ruger had a total recall of over 50K of the lcp when it came out, did u forget that???. they rushe dinto that gun buy copying the POS kel teks and paid the price for it to. Now today I don't even think 90% of the Ruger people evenknow or rememberthat recall. A good company just stqands behind its product..

[dbp67]

Jocko -- I'm not knocking Kahr. I am new to Kahr products and just wondered about reliability. If a company stands behind their product, as Kahr seems to do, then I have no worries with owning their product. My P380 is shooting well now that I have switched to different ammo. I think it is a great little gun, but if something happened and I had to return it to Kahr, I would do so with no worries that it would come back in great shape.

I have a Glock 26 with about 1,000 rds and have never had a glitch. I owned a Ruger SR9C and put close to 1,000 rds through it with no problems. That doesn't mean that others may not have had a negative experience with those guns. I understand that there is perfection in nothing on this earth and don't expect it.

Thanks for your reply - -I learn something from everyone on here.

[JimC]

I have a G27 that I bought new 17 years ago.
It had NEVER failed me. NEVER had to go back to Glock for any reason.
It has thousands of rounds thru it, it has NEVER failed me.
I used to replace the springs every couple of years but not so recently due to the fact that it does not see that many rounds any longer.
I just recently updated the followers in my original 4 magazines along with new springs. I've done this twice in 17 years only because.
I have a two year old PM9 that the MSRP on is nearly 3x as much as my G27 considering I paid LE price for my G27.
My PM9 has had to go back to Kahr twice in 2 years to rectify "issues" that included magazines that split on range day one!
Kahr has had to replace the recoil assembly twice due to malfunctions.
My PM9 now resides in my safe...permanently. I take it out occasionally and tell it that I wish I could thrust you more but I can't. ;)
My G27 is now again my EDC handgun.
I've owned a bunch of Glocks and still own 6. None have had to go back to Glock for anything.

[jocko]

no problem, just maklingy poin to u listed two models of BIG AS guns to. consider ur P380 as as smallas smallcan get. It takes the owner and the gun to mate up perfectly to perform correctly. IMI one can or should expect to see more complaints form any small ass gun oer the BTG ones. Just makes sense. Just put nto propper context that Ruger recalled over 50K of theire first realy small ass gun due to issues. IMO no better workingguns made than ruger but i the BG ASS GUNS.

If I feared a gun maker, I would stay away from them. Evidentley u felt good about kahr as u bught the P380, which IMO is the most troublesome of all kahrs made. They are doin super better than day one but agin if u had to weight the prcentages. the P380 would dominate in the non performance department. U took a chance and it paid off. as IMO when they work as designed the P380 puts to shame every SMALL ASS 380 on the market.

[muggsy]

I have a G27 that I bought new 17 years ago.
It had NEVER failed me. NEVER had to go back to Glock for any reason.
It has thousands of rounds thru it, it has NEVER failed me.
I used to replace the springs every couple of years but not so recently due to the fact that it does not see that many rounds any longer.
I just recently updated the followers in my original 4 magazines along with new springs. I've done this twice in 17 years only because.
I have a two year old PM9 that the MSRP on is nearly 3x as much as my G27 considering I paid LE price for my G27.
My PM9 has had to go back to Kahr twice in 2 years to rectify "issues" that included magazines that split on range day one!
Kahr has had to replace the recoil assembly twice due to malfunctions.
My PM9 now resides in my safe...permanently. I take it out occasionally and tell it that I wish I could thrust you more but I can't. ;)
My G27 is now again my EDC handgun.
I've owned a bunch of Glocks and still own 6. None have had to go back to Glock for anything.

If you think that Glocks are trouble free just check out the You Tube videos on the early Glock Gen-4s. You might also check out the Glock kabooms videos, as well. Into every life a little rain must fall.

[JimC]

If you think that Glocks are trouble free just check out the You Tube videos on the early Glock Gen-4s. You might also check out the Glock kabooms videos, as well. Into every life a little rain must fall.

I never said all Glocks are trouble free. ALL of mine were/are however. ;)

I can only speak from my own experiences which includes hundreds of LE Glock 17's, 19's, 22's and 23's w/a few 26's and 27's thrown in, that I have seen in use on several LE ranges.

When a new LE recruit with virtually no firearm experience can start out on Monday morning with a brand new Glock in a box and by Friday fire 1,000 rds. w/o a problem related directly to the firearm and be certified, that is a good firearm.

I have no personal experience w/the Gen 4 Glocks. I've seen them but have never even handled one in any caliber.

I've been considering a new Gen 4 G23 because as a retired LEO I still qualify for the LE price thru a Glock LE dealer. :confused:

At $380.20 how can one pass that kind of pricing up. They should be "blue label" boxes (LE guns) which means they come w/3 magazines.

[dbp67]

Ok -- so I put 50 more rounds through my P380 today. I had zero FTF or FTE - fed and ejected perfectly. Again ammo was Magtech. I'm pretty sure now that the reman ammo was most of my earlier problems. However, I had a problem with this box of the same Magtech ammo that I didn't have last time out. Out of 9 mags shot, 5 failed to lock slide back on last round. Is there a fix for that?

I'm becoming pretty accurate with the little gun now and am pleased that I bought it.