Zimmerman

[knkali]

I am starting to think this guy is a jackhole. Say it isn't so.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/18/21521590-george-zimmerman-arrested-in-florida-after-disturbance-call?lite

[Bawanna]

He may be. I think he has a right to be bitter myself. He was justified and got drug through the ringer.
Wife stood by her man till he's cleared and then bails.

Still a jack hole.

[muggsy]

Over the course of my lifetime I have received about five speeding tickets and one for reckless op. None of them made national news. Wonder why?

[knkali]

I understand that but if you know you are under a microscope, then maybe you need to exercise a little caution too?

[Armybrat]

I understand that but if you know you are under a microscope, then maybe you need to exercise a little caution too?

Exactly. The media will pounce on anything he does, even if it's just a fart when he sneezes in public.

Saw a headline the other day trumpeting the news that Bernard Goetz was arrested for some misdemeanor.

[jocko]

He is now showing what a fokking idiot he really is to.

[jocko]

I am starting to think this guy is a jackhole. Say it isn't so.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/18/21521590-george-zimmerman-arrested-in-florida-after-disturbance-call?lite

heis a jackhole..:amflag:

[muggsy]

I don't personally know the man. For all I know he could be a model citizen, like Jocko. Nothing shady in his past. :)

[muggsy]

RevRay, who is it among us who should cast the first stone? I'm a bit vague on that passage.

[berettabone]

I always thought that he was a jackhole, but even jackhole's have a right to defend themselves............just think, maybe, he went a bit out of his way?

[ltxi]

Ya' think?

[Harrylee]

I was rooting for Zimmerman too. Bad things happened and got locked for to much time now the wife left that was done. The girl friend trouble , Hey he has been through some sh!t but does not give a reason too do this. Life is hard and you have to deal the hand you have, but I think maybe jerk Or maybe to not?, what pushes you off the edge is a fine line. I hope he can get this together and get straighten out. He did save some people in a car crash

[Kinetic]

He should have sold his guns after the trial...probably would have made a small fortune.

[Flieger]

In today's crazy litigious politically correct world, it's not easy to simply save your life from violent death, it's the legal death that can be worse. Just imagine the absolute hell he's gone through since that night.

The world is upside down. Better to be carried by six than be judged by the media.
God help us.

[chrish]

does matter now whether he was originally justified or not. media crucified him to begin with. jury says he isn't guilty then crucifies him in interviews. we will never really know what went down that night. based on the evidence on-hand, the jury (imo) made the correct call. but they should have kept their mouths shut. you can't find someone not guilty and then go talk about how they WERE guilty.


but at this point, he's proving himself to be a tool and making life worse for himself. you don't go thru hell, while married, then turn around and go get yourself a girlfriend, then turn around and get caught speeding, behaving (seemingly) violently. geez. moron.

[muggsy]

How many of you knew of Zimmerman before the shooting? I'd like to see a show of hands. For a year after the shooting he was front page news every day. He was arrested and jailed for committing no crime while trying to defend his neighborhood, lost a year or more of his life, lost his job, lost all of his money, his life was threatened and he was forced to go into hiding and lost his wife. It wouldn't surprise me if he is suffering from PTSD. Of course, he did shoot a poor, defenseless, innocent, youth whose only crime was buying skittles and ice tea while black. Give me a freaking break.

[muggsy]

"The world is upside down. Better to be carried by six than be judged by the media. God help us."

Great line, Flieger. Can I use it?

[TheTman]

I just have a feeling anytime he has an argument with a girl friend, she is going to say he pulled a gun on her. Whether he did or not. Then again, after going through what he's been through, he may be a little bit touchy.

[JimC]

I said from day one that he was a Jackhole, never changed my mind.
He has done everything that he can to prove me correct. ;)
I was disappointed when he got of. :(
This boy needs some serious F'n help.

[Sage]

Most trouble magnets bring it on themselves. A domestic violence charge will likely cost him his CC permit.

[Popeye]

You and me both JimC. I've been saying he's a Knucklehead from day one regardless of the trials outcome. I always said that, that situation was just a sad store of two knuckleheads crossing paths one rainy night. I'm not surprised by this latest brush with the law. One would think he'd want to keep as low a profile as possible. He's not the first person to ever have a argument with his wife or girlfriend but he's to stupid to just walkaway and let things cool down. He always has to take it to the next level to where the cops get called or someone ands up dead. He might have just kissed his right to carry a firearm goodbye. Which is fine by me, as we sure don't need him as a poster child for 2A rights. I don't think the media is to blame for his behavior, but when his name pops up on the police blotter there going to be all over it. For someone who is supposed to be broke he's driving around in a pretty nice truck.

[knkali]

I gave the guy the benefit of any doubt but since the trial, he has been a disappointment. Yes he went through hell on many fronts but it takes an intelligent man to realize this and get some help in the head department and to realize that he is under a microscope. I'll buy the fact that he might have PTS(probably does) but there are people to help with that. He should seriously get some. He has become a poster child for antigunners everywhere and he is ruining what life he has left. Come to think about it. Maybe he wants to ruin it? Please Z, get some help pronto.

[JimC]

Most trouble magnets bring it on themselves. A domestic violence charge will likely cost him his CC permit.

And in his case, you that's a bad thing?

[jocko]

u can't fix stupidity....

[muggsy]

To me it's a case of he said, she said. First she said that she was pregnant by him. Then she said she isn't. Proven Liar. Now she claims he pulled a gun on her. I don't see him losing his permit unless he admits to pulling a gun on her. Of course, I'm not a lawyer. I just play one on this forum, but I haven't lost a case yet. I hope that he gets his life straightened out. He isn't proving very good at making life's decisions. Lets not forget that not one person in his neighborhood had anything bad to say about him.

[JimC]

He's out on $9,000 bond with several stipulations to what he can and can't do.
He can't return to the house to retrieve his gun(s) or ammo. A third party has to do so.
He can't have a firearm while out on bond.
He can not leave the State of FL while on bond.

Further details...

Zimmerman out on bond (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/19/george-zimmerman-arrested-in-florida-after-disturbance-call/?intcmp=latestnews)

[AIRret]

Anti gunners will use any "ammo" for their argument POSSIBLE!!!!
And, sadly, this provides (right or wrong) them AMMO.

Anything for an argument, he is or can be their poster child!

[VN Vet]

I gave the man the benifit of the doubt the first time around, but since then he has proven himself to me that he is a jerk. I will no longer support him in any way. I will no longer keep interested in his court proceeding. He deserves to get every punishment coming to him.

Did he point a gun at his girlfriend? I really don't care anymore. The man is a jerk, IMO. Sorry.

[muggsy]

I gave the man the benifit of the doubt the first time around, but since then he has proven himself to me that he is a jerk. I will no longer support him in any way. I will no longer keep interested in his court proceeding. He deserves to get every punishment coming to him.

Did he point a gun at his girlfriend? I really don't care anymore. The man is a jerk, IMO. Sorry.

If he didn't point a shotgun at his girlfriend as he is alleged to have done by his girlfriend, how exactly is he a jerk. What punishment does he deserve if once again he has done nothing wrong. A man is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I'm not sure if I'd want anyone who rushes to judgement to be among a jury of my peers should I be forced to shoot someone. Just sayin.

[ltxi]

Z's issues seem to go back a long way. With due consideration for emotional trauma over the shooting and following legal problems, to my mind mostly brought on himself, I really believe he's someone who now should just be removed from the gene pool.

[JimC]

Z's issues seem to go back a long way. With due consideration for emotional trauma over the shooting and following legal problems, to my mind mostly brought on himself, I really believe he's someone who now should just be removed from the gene pool.

In Deed!!!

[JimC]

If he didn't point a shotgun at his girlfriend as he is alleged to have done by his girlfriend, how exactly is he a jerk. What punishment does he deserve if once again he has done nothing wrong. A man is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I'm not sure if I'd want anyone who rushes to judgement to be among a jury of my peers should I be forced to shoot someone. Just sayin.

He's more than a JERK but this forum won't allow me to type exactly how I feel about this guy.
He should know enough to stay low and out of the lime light but it seems that he goes out of his way to draw attention to himself.
The guy needs professional help.

[jocko]

but as we all know there are two sides to every story. If this ******* didn;'t have his Crayon Martin publicity behind him, this would be just a domestic disute that probably happens 5000 times a day in this cuntry. So far I have read where she stated he had ahandgun then he had a shotgun. has the police yet t6o find either? Just asking for I am not following it muh as I personally don't care WTf he does. That gal certainly looksd like a real doll baby, so IMO she can't be to damn brite. He is gettig to the profile where he will either be able to walk or roll even..

[JimC]

I don't know where you got your info from but...

If you had read the link that I posted, the second paragraph states he pointed a shotgun at her face.

Zimmerman, who allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend's face Monday, was charged with aggravated assault, a third-degree felony, as well as battery and criminal mischief, both misdemeanors. He was released after posting $9,000 bond.

Two local FL TV news stations also reported he pointed a shotgun at her.

Here in FL, I haven't heard one word about a handgun. :rolleyes:

Domestic Violence arrest...you forfeit your guns.

[JimC]

Another report about Zimmerman Arrested (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/os-george-zimmerman-arrest-court-20131119,0,7015605.story#axzz2lCykGg00) and only a shotgun reported being pointed at the girlfriend.

[VN Vet]

If he didn't point a shotgun at his girlfriend as he is alleged to have done by his girlfriend, how exactly is he a jerk. What punishment does he deserve if once again he has done nothing wrong. A man is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I'm not sure if I'd want anyone who rushes to judgement to be among a jury of my peers should I be forced to shoot someone. Just sayin.

Muggsy, you are right. I don't know for sure what he did or did not do. All I know, he is back in felony trouble again. All I know is I am 64 years old and never been in trouble like him. I had a friend who recently died at age 92 and he was never in such trouble. He was a County Judge. :>) However, I thought many times over the decades that he was a jerk. (different reasons)

Zimmermans neck is in the wringer more times than anyone I have personally known over the years. To me, he's asking for trouble and therefore in my eyes, he is a jerk. Now it could be he is just a man who associates with too many people who are real jerks. Maybe jerk isn't the correct word I should have used.

I do think he needs to change the caliber of women he associates his self with; divorced from his wife and kicked out by his girlfriend. I'm surprized his dogs haven't bit him by now.

I'd rather be convicted as a jerk than to be convicted as a felon.

Also Muggsy, I would have to dismiss myself from a Jury Pool if you got into trouble since I consider you a friend.

[JimC]

One thing for sure, he will again be facing court time.
The law firm that represented him prior has already said they will NOT be representing him this time.

[jocko]

I don't know where you got your info from but...

If you had read the link that I posted, the second paragraph states he pointed a shotgun at her face.

Zimmerman, who allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend's face Monday, was charged with aggravated assault, a third-degree felony, as well as battery and criminal mischief, both misdemeanors. He was released after posting $9,000 bond.

Two local FL TV news stations also reported he pointed a shotgun at her.

Here in FL, I haven't heard one word about a handgun. :rolleyes:

Domestic Violence arrest...you forfeit your guns.

that I guess, did they find the shotgun???

[JimC]

that I guess, did they find the shotgun???

And an assault rifle.

Taken from a FL newspaper article.

The girlfriend told deputies the ordeal started with a verbal argument and that she asked Zimmerman to leave the house. Her account in the arrest report says he began packing his belongings, including a shotgun and an assault rifle. She says she began putting his things in the living room and outside the house, and he became upset.
At that point, the report said, he took the shotgun out of its case.

[RevRay]

He's a very very unlucky guy who seems to routinely end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and then arrested and charged of doing the wrong thing to the wrong people ... either that or he's a jerk.

[jocko]

He's a very very unlucky guy who seems to routinely end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and then arrested and charged of doing the wrong thing to the wrong people ... either that or he's a jerk.

heius both, a nice combination NOT to have. Just sayin

[gun papa]

I do not know GZ, but I feel he is getting a raw deal. GZ will continue to be a target and a pariah, for what? Surviving Travon? In this latest case. The girlfriend lied about her pregnancy. No shotgun was found.
I suppose NO MAN has ever been with a crazy lying woman? I know I have. In fact, my Exwife did the same type of thing when I dumped her. She had me falsely arrested for Domestic Battery, as she knew that my job relies on the possession of firearms. She knew it was the most effective way to destroy me. Her divorce paperwork ALSO claimed that I had threatened her with guns.
GZ will continue to be a target of fame hungry opportunists.

GZ defended himself from an attacker, and has been in some bad relationships. Why is everybody ready to flush him?

[tv_racin_fan]

I dunno nuttin, wasn't there wont claim to know what happened or what sort of person he is. I have seen the law do stupid things, not charge people it shouldn have and charge people it shouldn't.

I imagine that killing someone has to have an effect on someone. I think he should get some help to deal with that, should have already gotten some. Probably has been told that several times. Men can be stubborn like that.

[Longitude Zero]

Zimmerman is where he is today because of a string of bad choices after his acquittal. Sooner or later he is going to prison for something.

[Bawanna]

I do not know GZ, but I feel he is getting a raw deal. GZ will continue to be a target and a pariah, for what? Surviving Travon? In this latest case. The girlfriend lied about her pregnancy. No shotgun was found.
I suppose NO MAN has ever been with a crazy lying woman? I know I have. In fact, my Exwife did the same type of thing when I dumped her. She had me falsely arrested for Domestic Battery, as she knew that my job relies on the possession of firearms. She knew it was the most effective way to destroy me. Her divorce paperwork ALSO claimed that I had threatened her with guns.
GZ will continue to be a target of fame hungry opportunists.

GZ defended himself from an attacker, and has been in some bad relationships. Why is everybody ready to flush him?

I agree with this right here. gun pappa said what I wanted to say but he said it nicely and not the way I would have said it because I'm such a non PC rabble rousing instigator.

[Longitude Zero]

Why is everybody ready to flush him?

I never posted anything about flushing anybody. He is a shat magnet and that's pretty much beyond doubt. Unless he goes and hibernates somewhere on a mountain top somewhere eventually one of the "coincidences" is going to be his Waterloo.

He is one that my grandmother would describe quite aptly as "His own worst enemy."

[gun papa]

I have no doubt that should I defend myself and it becomes a racially motivated media event that my prior Domestic Battery arrest and dismissal will be used against me to destroy my character. I hope, should this happen, that I am not tossed under the bus by the Brothers in the gun community who only hears what the State media program them with.

[jocko]

gun pappa, u have a good point. . I can't say I have walked in ur shoes with ur one comment--but I have. A divorce is messey, a freaking girlfriend that wants u opu for any reason in todays world can also be messey. The media is not gonna give Z any kind of a break either, so he also needs to be so so so aware of WTF is goin on around him, for if their is a badsituation a block from where he lives, the news media will pst it that wayt and plant the seed ofj"could he be involved".

But also the guys here can and do have opions of this turd to.

[gun papa]

My last 2 women I have been with, prior to my Wife turned out to be crazy. I guess that makes me a turd magnet. Most men need female companionship, I know I do. It takes time to know somebody. Often there are red flags, but sometimes crazy is revealed over time.

[Bawanna]

Boy do I know that. The violets I'm surrounded by here at work all belong in a nut house, every last one.

One was pulling this same crap on her estranged hubby. We all rallied around her, truth comes out now I rally around him even though I don't like neither one of them.

I think it's in a Violets genetic makeup to come or become crazy at some point. All mine are past that expiration date.

[jocko]

a restraining order herein Indiana, means u cannot have a gun in ur possession, which means on u and in your home. Women it seems have no problems getting a restrainng order either.

I can rember how backyears ago when I was kicke dout of mty home and was living down the street,I had forgot my Bulova Accutron spacevbiew, so I called to see if I could have it. Sure the nice c*nt said it willbe on the front porch. So I walked up to get it and about 20 yards from the porch I could see my watch, and my first thoghts was ALRIGHT she did put it out there. Well when I got to the watch, I seen tha tshe had take a hammer to it and it layed there totally busted to hell.

Yup I needed a restraining order after that, sure did. ..

[Longitude Zero]

i think it's in a violets genetic makeup to come or become crazy at some point. All mine are past that expiration date.

1000%

[ltxi]

Boy do I know that. The violets I'm surrounded by here at work all belong in a nut house, every last one.

One was pulling this same crap on her estranged hubby. We all rallied around her, truth comes out now I rally around him even though I don't like neither one of them.

I think it's in a Violets genetic makeup to come or become crazy at some point. All mine are past that expiration date.

And you have how many in your collection now?? :spider:

[Bawanna]

And you have how many in your collection now?? :spider:

Currently at 8. Wife couldn't handle it anymore so she told em to stick it. Last Wednesday was her last day here and she's been smiling ever since even with me present.
She wasn't ever on the violet list so don't matter anyhow.

Have 2 in my office puke area and 1 Detective Sgt that don't qualify as violets either. Just to show I'm unbiased and don't stereotype due strictly to body contours. Well actually that ain't true neither, all the violets are obese fat cows, and the non violets aren't but that's probably just a coincidence. They are nice to talk to. ( The trim non violets that is)

[ltxi]

Congrats to your wife!

Just remember if you should choose to continue to stick it out...I'm available to help out come mid January. No charge. Good to know the number. With eight I should probably bring a second mag.

[JimC]

According to the latest article today, GZ had 5 guns and 100 rds. of ammo when he was arrested earlier this month.
A shotgun, an AR-15 rifle and three handguns.

I don't think he has them any longer. ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/26/zimmerman-had-5-guns-more-than-100-rounds-ammo-when-arrested-court-papers-say/?intcmp=latestnews

[muggsy]

I do not know GZ, but I feel he is getting a raw deal. GZ will continue to be a target and a pariah, for what? Surviving Travon? In this latest case. The girlfriend lied about her pregnancy. No shotgun was found.
I suppose NO MAN has ever been with a crazy lying woman? I know I have. In fact, my Exwife did the same type of thing when I dumped her. She had me falsely arrested for Domestic Battery, as she knew that my job relies on the possession of firearms. She knew it was the most effective way to destroy me. Her divorce paperwork ALSO claimed that I had threatened her with guns.
GZ will continue to be a target of fame hungry opportunists.

GZ defended himself from an attacker, and has been in some bad relationships. Why is everybody ready to flush him?

+1 Couldn't agree more gun papa. A man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Gun owners should be sticking together on this. Their guns could be next to go.

[muggsy]

He's more than a JERK but this forum won't allow me to type exactly how I feel about this guy.
He should know enough to stay low and out of the lime light but it seems that he goes out of his way to draw attention to himself.
The guy needs professional help.

Bullpucky, most incidents like this don't get covered by the major networks. Someday you might find yourself in Zimmerman's position.

[JimC]

Someday you might find yourself in Zimmerman's position.

Not a chance.

[knkali]

Bullsheet on the poor Z routine I am reading here.
The Travon case I understand.
I even might give him some slack on the exwife situation.
But now the girlfiend?
Are you kidding me? Time for Z to wake up and smell the coffee and find another set of people for his circle. The people he surrounds himself with suck. Sorry but that spills over into how Z is perceived. Just say'n.

[jocko]

was any of his weapons eligale??? was a 100 rounds alot. ??? Sure he is a twitt but the media is makin this what they trie dtodo all through his trial

[muggsy]

Bullsheet on the poor Z routine I am reading here.
The Travon case I understand.
I even might give him some slack on the exwife situation.
But now the girlfiend?
Are you kidding me? Time for Z to wake up and smell the coffee and find another set of people for his circle. The people he surrounds himself with suck. Sorry but that spills over into how Z is perceived. Just say'n.

That spills over into how you see him. Others see him differently. Opinions are like alimentary canals. Everyone is entitled to their own.

[jocko]

Look at Amanda Knox, they are trying to retry and convict her inItaly. Who fokking cares,except the news media Not sure anyone said Z was not a dick it is she says he says to,so in essence he deserves some slack as to that specific charge. Thedick part is about like Muggs said, We all see him differently.

As far as the traffic violations, ,,, big fokking deal. I had 3 citations in one day, not bragging either, just a fact. Never even seen any of it in the news media. We have ovomit care literally suckng this cuntry down and the liberal media wants to concentrate on two loosers. Makes no sense to me.

[muggsy]

If I ever need back-up in a bar fight I'm callin on you Jocko. :)

[jocko]

will u be the one with a towel wrapped aroud ur head,or the one with his pants down below his knees??? Just sayin

[getsome]

Does that mean Muggshamed has Jocko bent over a bar stool?

[getsome]

Just sayin

[knkali]

Look at Amanda Knox, they are trying to retry and convict her inItaly. Who fokking cares,except the news media Not sure anyone said Z was not a dick it is she says he says to,so in essence he deserves some slack as to that specific charge. Thedick part is about like Muggs said, We all see him differently.

As far as the traffic violations, ,,, big fokking deal. I had 3 citations in one day, not bragging either, just a fact. Never even seen any of it in the news media. We have ovomit care literally suckng this cuntry down and the liberal media wants to concentrate on two loosers. Makes no sense to me.

Fukkn A

[knkali]

Does that mean Muggshamed has Jocko bent over a bar stool?

Muggshamed?

[ltxi]

A man is innocent until demonstrated otherwise. Court of law is one route. Imo he's working hard to overcome not guilty and demonstrate it himself.