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balok1701
11-23-2013, 01:16 PM
I'm looking for a maximum capacity handgun in .40 with at least a 4" barrel and minimal safeties. So far the CZ P-09 looks good. I would prefer something less mainstream than a Glock or M&P. Size and weight are not a problem, but my hands are average size so grip circumference is a factor. Any suggestions?

garyb
11-23-2013, 01:29 PM
Just to keep looking until you find what you are looking for and to be sure it satisfies what you intend to use it for. It's a process everyone goes through. Not trying to be insulting...just honest.

jocko
11-23-2013, 01:49 PM
double stack or single stack.there is a size difference u know.P40 would make a super 40 butd single stack.If I wasgonnabuy a double stack I would lean towards Glocksfor sure.Why LESSmainstream???Makesnosenseif ur passinup on a good brandandprovenbrand. Have nboissues with CZ.

mr surveyor
11-23-2013, 01:55 PM
Sig!

downtownv
11-23-2013, 02:03 PM
Sig!
+1 sig 229 .40 cal!

jocko
11-23-2013, 02:06 PM
thats a big m**foker gun..

BEARDOG
11-23-2013, 02:20 PM
I am happy with my XDM 40 4.5"... You could check one those out.

16+1 capacity!, comfortable grip w/adjustable back straps, no manual safeties.
Mine is my go to H.D. pistol wearing a Streamlight TLR-1 light on it normally.
It is reliable, accurate and a pussycat to shoot, with the light on it recoils less then my 9mm's

CB3
11-23-2013, 03:29 PM
Look closely at the Beretta PX4 .40, especially the C model, constant action trigger. Very Kahr-like trigger, no safety. <6 lb tuned pull easy to do. 15 + 1 with flush mag, 17 + 1 with extended. Soft shooting, accurate, reliable, reasonably priced. Just a little hard to find.

O'Dell
11-23-2013, 04:57 PM
HK USP 40. Ultra reliable and carries a 14 round magazine. I got mine as an ex-police pistol for $400. It's in almost perfect condition, has excellent night sights, and came with three 14 round mags. Since it's a full sized gun, I don't carry it , but makes a perfect home defense weapon.

ParabellumJ
11-23-2013, 05:27 PM
I am going to suggest what I always do for a duty weapon. Glock or M&P. There are good reasons why these are mainstream. Having said that, CZ's are great guns so you will probably have a good weapon with that as well. Most modern guns are of good quality and are reliable, but when factoring in cost, ease of use (no safety or decocker, same trigger pull each time) its usually Glock and M&P on the short list.

jeepster09
11-23-2013, 05:34 PM
I am happy with my XDM 40 4.5"... You could check one those out.

16+1 capacity!, comfortable grip w/adjustable back straps, no manual safeties.
Mine is my go to H.D. pistol wearing a Streamlight TLR-1 light on it normally.
It is reliable, accurate and a pussycat to shoot, with the light on it recoils less then my 9mm's


I would second the XD.

b4uqzme
11-23-2013, 08:15 PM
Of those mentioned so far I'd rank them: CZ, HK then M&P. Personally I have a hankering for a Para 16.40. But I'd go for a CZ P06 if I ran across a good deal but that's only 10 rounds. Nah, I'll keep looking for that 16.40.

berettabone
11-23-2013, 09:18 PM
I like my Beretta 96 inox. I think they are an overlooked firearm. Of all the firearms I own, it's my favorite. Not everyone likes the trigger.......I do, with a little spit and polish.............when oiled up, they run like a smooth sewing machine. Well tested. Eat any type of ammo. Not for carry, great range and home gun. It's the firearm that eventually made .40 cal my favorite to shoot.

jeepster09
11-23-2013, 10:02 PM
I have a Beretta 96A1 and have to agree, they are a really good gun. I put the Wolf d-spring kit in and it really improves the trigger, they only hold 13 rounds if that is a problem.

http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%20Pistols/BERETTA/92,%2096,%20AND%20CENTURION/cID1/mID2/dID36

kwh
11-24-2013, 09:27 AM
Although they do not fit your requirement for minimal safeties, for me,personally the Ruger SR 40 fits my smaller hands. My SR 9 has been 100% from day one with normal Ruger toughness and reliabllity. I am fine with the trigger but it can be worked on if preferred. In the local gun store yesterday I was shown the SAR line (9mm) a "Turkish CZ" DA/SA with a typical rough DA pull. I have always liked the way the CZ fits my hands although I do not have one. The SAR was highly recommended as having the best fit and polish in the price range. I would think it also comes in .40 cal but do not know for sure.

chrish
11-24-2013, 11:13 AM
Go with the P-09, by all accounts its a fine fine choice. Hickok and Sootch on YouTube have both reviewed it recently and both speak highly of it. The 9mm version is on my list, coming soon hopefully.

JimC
11-24-2013, 11:23 AM
+1 sig 229 .40 cal!

+1

Also consider the Walther P99 in .40.
I have had one for several years and love it. :D

warbird1
11-24-2013, 05:59 PM
Can't go wrong with an M&P40 or a Sig. I do love my CZ Phantom in 9mm. I say that to say CZ makes fine firearms. Can't go wrong there either.

RRP
11-24-2013, 06:07 PM
IMO, you are short-changing yourself by excluding "mainstream" guns from your search.

The G23 is the finest balance of power and capacity I've ever carried. If you don't plan to carry, the G22 gives you two additional rounds.

The XDm is another great choice.

But it's your money....

Alfonse
11-24-2013, 07:00 PM
I am getting pretty partial to CZs myself. Reports on the P-09 are great and there are now parts out from CGW to improve the trigger if you like. The P09 gives you a hammer, SA/DA, reversible controls, etc. If you like striker, glock and the XDs certainly have their fans. I have a Beretta PX4 that seems to be a nice gun too. The P-09 is working its way towards my wish list.

otium
11-25-2013, 12:17 AM
I don't consider a 40sw any kind of a hand cannon at all. Maybe if you were looking for something in a 44mag, 454, 460, 500 or maybe the 50ae, I could apply the term hand cannon to it.

To me a hand cannon performs at the level where the folks next to you in the lanes at the indoor shooting range will stop, go and sit down and wait for you to finish due to the concussion they are taking from your weapon. Although that may not be a great way to make good friends at the range... The 40 just does has not have that kind of power.

Magnum Research (Kahr) makes a dandy semi auto in 50ae in the desert eagle that would certainly better accommodate your dreams of a hand cannon. That is what I recommend for you.

garyb
11-25-2013, 07:37 AM
I don't consider a 40sw any kind of a hand cannon at all. Maybe if you were looking for something in a 44mag, 454, 460, 500 or maybe the 50ae, I could apply the term hand cannon to it.

To me a hand cannon performs at the level where the folks next to you in the lanes at the indoor shooting range will stop, go and sit down and wait for you to finish due to the concussion they are taking from your weapon. Although that may not be a great way to make good friends at the range... The 40 just does has not have that kind of power.

Magnum Research (Kahr) makes a dandy semi auto in 50ae in the desert eagle that would certainly better accommodate your dreams of a hand cannon. That is what I recommend for you.

Very good point. But if 40 is the formula and it is for every day conceal carry, can't beat a PM40. If 40 is the formula for the range, can't beat the M&PPro40. Neither are "hand cannons". Both are very effective.

muggsy
11-25-2013, 07:43 AM
FNH FNS-40. American made, totally reliable. Stainless and polymer. Three large capacity magazines, night sights.

http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/handguns/fns-series/fns-40/

CB3
11-25-2013, 09:14 AM
Hand cannon: figurative ;) or literal? .40 S&W is a hand cannon compared to a .22 or .25, but I think the OP was pretty clear about what he wanted.

Not this:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Pfeifer.jpg

Tank
11-25-2013, 11:14 AM
I would have to jump on the XDm bandwagon. I have a 4.5 9mm but have shot the 5.25 .40. These are nice full size guns that don't miss a beat right out of the box. I personally didn't notice an accuracy improvement going to the 5.25 with the adjustable sights.

I'm with the others that a .40 isn't a cannon, but if you are looking for a fast shooting hi-cap gun this is it. These almost feel top heavy when you first pick one up but the long barrel helps greatly with the muzzle lift and these guns have good triggers with very short resets.

VN Vet
11-25-2013, 06:14 PM
If you want something in a .40S&W but not see it at every shooting range or gun shop; a hand gun your friends will likely not own, then try the Glock 34gen 4 FDE. It has a 135mm long barrel (5.32") which will definately add more power than a G23.

These will run you 650 to 725 dollars depending where you are located in the Country. I have this same gun in the G34 9mm and I love mine alot.

Now if you truely want a .40 Cal Hand Cannon as you said, then get yourself the Kahr CM40. It'll likely make you feel like you just shot a true hand cannon. :>)

Barth
12-07-2013, 09:28 PM
I'm looking for a maximum capacity handgun in .40 with at least a 4" barrel and minimal safeties. So far the CZ P-09 looks good. I would prefer something less mainstream than a Glock or M&P. Size and weight are not a problem, but my hands are average size so grip circumference is a factor. Any suggestions?

HK FS USP Tactical 40.
Add a Jet Funnel for 16+1.
And a LEM kit to eliminate the safety.
This is a 9mm but you get the idea.
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4562/usp9sdcc.jpg

I've got a HK FS USP Tactical 45 (12+1)
with a Match LEM hybrid trigger that's a real tack driver.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo1097_zps2a29c0b8.jpg

I really like my P30 40 Light LEM too (13+1)
http://i44.tinypic.com/16h2d5f.jpg

There's also a long slide P30L if you want more barrel.
http://www.eurooptic.com/images/products/HK-P30LS-V3S-40-SW-13-round-M734001L.jpg

O'Dell
12-08-2013, 02:15 AM
Hey, Barth. I suggested a USP 40 about twenty posts ago, but I don't think anyone is listening. I think we're the only HK fans in the forum.

DeaconKC
12-08-2013, 10:56 AM
Okay, I know you were looking for something other than a Glock, but I have to say at least try a Model 23 or 22. I have carried a 23 for 13 years, thousands of rounds through it and it has made a believer out of me. I hate the trigger, but they WORK.

Barth
12-08-2013, 11:48 AM
Hey, Barth. I suggested a USP 40 about twenty posts ago, but I don't think anyone is listening. I think we're the only HK fans in the forum.

Yup I noticed.
Should have said +1 on the USP.
I believe the USP may have been originally designed for the 40 S&W.

And Yes, I think we are nearly alone in being HK fans.
But I think there is at least one other.
Somebody here, not us, has a HK USP Elite...

wyntrout
12-08-2013, 01:29 PM
it depends on what you want to call a .40 Hand Cannon....

Mag-na-ported Kahr P40:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m620/wyntrout/Magna-Ported%20%20Kahr%20P40%20Flash%20Pictures/RemUMC180-grJHP5_1787.jpg

Or Compensated Glock 23C:

Wynn:D

DanTana
12-08-2013, 01:59 PM
I know you said you didn't want M&P, but I bought the Core Pro 5.0L they do have the 4.25" model too. Very accurate, fit my hand like a glove. 15 round capacity. Very little felt recoil. Did I say accurate? When I first picked one up, just felt right. Try renting some different ones at your local range if possible. You know the Steyr and FN are nice too. The FNX-40 especially.

berettabone
12-09-2013, 03:04 PM
Hey, Barth. I suggested a USP 40 about twenty posts ago, but I don't think anyone is listening. I think we're the only HK fans in the forum.
Hey.......I shot a P30L and loved it...not totally enamored by the trigger, but with a little work.................fit my wife's hand perfectly. Prefer Beretta, but I believe that if I couldn't have a first choice, HK would be high on the radar.;)