My First P9 Experience was not a good one....

[MJS83]

Hey Guys new member here. I have been reading on here for over a month as I researched about purchasing a Kahr P9 for a carry gun. My local gun shop and range recommended the P9. My buddy is the gunsmith there and he let me shoot his P9 and I loved it so I purchased the one they had in the shop. I took it home and field stripped it and did a basic cleaning and lube per the instructions on here.

I went back today excited to put some rounds through it. :) Loaded both the 7 & 8 round mags; put the 7 mag in, released the slide, took aim, pulled the trigger and.........................CLICK. :mad: Dropped the mag, cleared the round, took a quick look then reinserted the mag, released the slide, took aim, pulled the trigger and...............CLICK.:mad: Same routine again but I put the eight round mag in and........CLICK:mad:

Called my gunsmith buddy out to take a look...............CLICK :mad:

He looked at it and said you have a broken striker! He and I were both stunned since we both knew I hadnt even put one round down the tube.

He was pissed (because he recommended the gun to me) so he immediately called Kahr and told them he just sold me a brand new gun (never shot) and the striker was broke. They are sending the new striker to him at the shop.

I did not dry fire it at all either.

I have to say my confidence level is zero right now after this experience for this being my potential carry gun.

Has there been a problem with strikers breaking?? I didnt read anything about that on here before I bought it.

Hopefully Kahr will get the striker out real soon. Hopefully you guys can give me your experiences and help build my confidence up on this P9.

Thanks for the help.

[jfrey]

So far my CW9 and sister-in-law's P9 have been basically flawless. A broken striker in a new gun is very curious. I'm sure Ian will replace it very quickly. He is good about stuff like that. No doubt Jocko will lend his vast experience here shortly and help you understand what might have happened.
Do you know exactly what part of the striker broke? Did the point break off or was at another place further back?

[MJS83]

No i dont know exactly where the striker broke. My Gunsmith buddy took it and kept it at the shop. I will be there tomorrow and I will ask him. If I remember to take my camera I will take a picture. How many posts do I need before I can post pics??

[Michael W.]

No i dont know exactly where the striker broke. My Gunsmith buddy took it and kept it at the shop. I will be there tomorrow and I will ask him. If I remember to take my camera I will take a picture. How many posts do I need before I can post pics??

Pics would be good as I think this is of great interest to Kahr owners
(and potential owners). I don't believe there is a minimum post rule
to post pics.

When I was looking into the Kahrs as a possible carry gun I went out of
my way to search out all the problems people had. I read every complaint
post and rant just to get a feel for what kinds of problems people were
having. Broken striker was not one of them, this is the first I've heard of it
in a Kahr. But I suppose since anything man made can have flaws it's not
unimaginable that you had one that must have broke during the test firing and
no one was the wiser because it wasn't fired again until your tried to. I'm
sorry that it happened to be your gun and I can certainly understand that
sinking feeling in your gut of not being able to trust a gun. If it was my gun
that I just plopped down that kind of coin for I'd be more than a little
steamed. But before you give up on your P9 give it a shake down run when
the new striker is installed you may find that you can move past this and
develop confidence in the gun as a carry piece. I would imagine that this type
of failure is a very isolated case.

Michael-

[MJS83]

Pics would be good as I think this is of great interest to Kahr owners
(and potential owners). I don't believe there is a minimum post rule
to post pics.

When I was looking into the Kahrs as a possible carry gun I went out of
my way to search out all the problems people had. I read every complaint
post and rant just to get a feel for what kinds of problems people were
having. Broken striker was not one of them, this is the first I've heard of it
in a Kahr. But I suppose since anything man made can have flaws it's not
unimaginable that you had one that must have broke during the test firing and
no one was the wiser because it wasn't fired again until your tried to. I'm
sorry that it happened to be your gun and I can certainly understand that
sinking feeling in your gut of not being able to trust a gun. If it was my gun
that I just plopped down that kind of coin for I'd be more than a little
steamed. But before you give up on your P9 give it a shake down run when
the new striker is installed you may find that you can move past this and
develop confidence in the gun as a carry piece. I would imagine that this type
of failure is a very isolated case.

Michael-


Michael

Thanks for the response. You are right the only way it could have broke was during the test fire before it shipped. Same thing my buddy said. When i first pulled the trigger I thought maybe it didnt strip and chamber a round but then I cleared the round. I am very upset about this and my buddy was so mad he took the gun and was on the phone with Kahr before I could even pack up my gear and get off the range.

I am putting an email together to Kahr right now. I am very interested to see how they respond and how quickly they respond.

I will keep you guys up to date.

[Bawanna]

Michael

Thanks for the response. You are right the only way it could have broke was during the test fire before it shipped. Same thing my buddy said. When i first pulled the trigger I thought maybe it didnt strip and chamber a round but then I cleared the round. I am very upset about this and my buddy was so mad he took the gun and was on the phone with Kahr before I could even pack up my gear and get off the range.

I am putting an email together to Kahr right now. I am very interested to see how they respond and how quickly they respond.

I will keep you guys up to date.

I'll bet a new striker is enroute pretty quickly. I've never heard of a broken striker at all on this forum before. Kahr is really top class in taking care of this kind of thing which of course doesn't help one little bit when it's your gun and your expecting a fun day at the range and all you get is click. BUT it does happen. I got a new PM45 just this afternoon and my first fun day with it is gonna be sunday and if all I get is clicks I'm not gonna be a happy camper. But if I do just get a click I'll figure it out or send it in knowing that it will get fixed. I'll bet your only a few days away from a striker and back on track hopefully flawless from this day forward, but do keep us in the loop.

[jocko]

strikers in kahrs do not break, this was just a defective striker from the git go. It can happen, yours is the second I have ever read about breaking. I would like to see a photo of the broken striker, but it has to be in the tip which is even a tapered tip for additional strength. Your P9 is as good as any gun on the market. I could understand that kahr would not send a new gun either. They just don't do that for a broken striker as the two are not really related. You will be good to go and feel good that it did it right from the git go and now down the road when you might have needed it. A photo should would be nice to see though, if possable.

You might want to view the kahr tech section and read up on the PROPPER PREPPING OF YOUR NEW KAHR. Might save some head aches down the road. Enjoy your P9, IMO it is one of the best in kahrs line. Take your time learning the trigger on a kahr, they are loooong by design and takes a few rounds to get the hang of ut. There is no smoother out of the box trigger system than what you have..

[at_liberty]

Confidence in the gun is still going to come from firing it a bunch after getting it operational. Perhaps it is a bit like ones first major repair on a vehicle. You get a little uneasy about what comes next and whether the thing is still worthy of your confidence, attention, and pride in it. I think the store should give you another one, so you can start over mentally. Having a major problem on the first shot is crap.

[jlottmc]

Indeed I have not heard of this either, and to the number of posts required, I think the ability to post pics comes with membership (which you have). You will love that little gun when the new striker gets in. I think that because of the current rush and demand that QC might take a bit of a beating right now. This is not just with Kahrs, but ammo, and everything firearm related. You'll be good to go in short order, as previously mentioned, Kahr's customer service doesn't do people wrong.

[jocko]

Confidence in the gun is still going to come from firing it a bunch after getting it operational. Perhaps it is a bit like ones first major repair on a vehicle. You get a little uneasy about what comes next and whether the thing is still worthy of your confidence, attention, and pride in it. I think the store should give you another one, so you can start over mentally. Having a major problem on the first shot is crap.

a car dealer give you a new car?????

[Bawanna]

In this case I could almost see the shop providing a new gun and then dealing with the defective one themselves. I suspect they didn't have another or they may have done that very thing. No need really other than the confidence level and the customer being more faithful to that shop would have been greatly improved. The timeline as I read it would have made it easy to just change the paperwork but as stated, I suspect they only had the one.
It's totally fixable, get er running, shoot the heck out of it, rebond and it'll all be good.

[jocko]

In this case I could almost see the shop providing a new gun and then dealing with the defective one themselves. I suspect they didn't have another or they may have done that very thing. No need really other than the confidence level and the customer being more faithful to that shop would have been greatly improved. The timeline as I read it would have made it easy to just change the paperwork but as stated, I suspect they only had the one.
It's totally fixable, get er running, shoot the heck out of it, rebond and it'll all be good.

it is just sometmes not that easy to give the guy a new gun #1 it is registered ( you cannot void that registration), #2 the new gun would have to be registered . #3 Now the dealer has a used gun, no matter it be a day old or a month old. It has been titled.... Now when he sells that gun, he probalby would not devulge that either but if something happened down the road and a Trace would have to come into effect the second owner would certainly find out he bought a used gun(unknowingly). Now ask yourself. How would you feel about it, if it happened to you If the warranty registration of the new gun was even sent it, it could also alert kahr that this second owner is not entitled to a warranty either.

What happend is never good when it happens to one, no matter it be a gun, car, dishwasher,or what ever. It could have happend 500 rounds later to, so this striker was defective and it was just "when" was it going to go bad. to loose faith over it, to me is ridiculous and if that was indeed the case, the best advise I could even give is to move on to another gun, or accept the fact that you got a bad part that has since been replaced and you now are good to go..

The P9 is about as good as a gun as kahr has ever made IMO,but sh-t does happen. Put it behind you and just go out and shoot it like u stole it..

[Bawanna]

it is just sometmes not that easy to give the guy a new gun #1 it is registered ( you cannot void that registration), #2 the new gun would have to be registered . #3 Now the dealer has a used gun, no matter it be a day old or a month old. It has been titled.... Now when he sells that gun, he probalby would not devulge that either but if something happened down the road and a Trace would have to come into effect the second owner would certainly find out he bought a used gun(unknowingly). Now ask yourself. How would you feel about it, if it happened to you If the warranty registration of the new gun was even sent it, it could also alert kahr that this second owner is not entitled to a warranty either.

What happend is never good when it happens to one, no matter it be a gun, car, dishwasher,or what ever. It could have happend 500 rounds later to, so this striker was defective and it was just "when" was it going to go bad. to loose faith over it, to me is ridiculous and if that was indeed the case, the best advise I could even give is to move on to another gun, or accept the fact that you got a bad part that has since been replaced and you now are good to go..

The P9 is about as good as a gun as kahr has ever made IMO,but sh-t does happen. Put it behind you and just go out and shoot it like u stole it..

My thought was the range was attached to the shop, he never left. Gun paperwork might not have even been recorded yet. If it was then it's game over. Since the gun never went bang, technically it's used but a trip back to Kahr for a striker and checkup it would still technically be a new gun. Had he left, then it's a whole new ball game. Too late now. He'll be fine once some parts get there.

[jocko]

in his message, he stated he went back the next day, so my bet the paper work was sent in. Either way, he will get a new striker installed and all should be well.

[ripley16]

He looked at it and said you have a broken striker! He and I were both stunned since we both knew I hadnt even put one round down the tube.

I doubt the striker is broken too. Were the primers indented? What ammo were you using out of curiousity. I had lots of lightstrikes on a CW9 with Remington UMC.


He was pissed (because he recommended the gun to me) so he immediately called Kahr and told them he just sold me a brand new gun (never shot) and the striker was broke. They are sending the new striker to him at the shop.

I would have asked for a new gun. If he didn't have another then you're forced to wait on the part.



I did not dry fire it at all either.

Yes you did. ;) ... at least once if you field stripped to clean the gun.



I have to say my confidence level is zero right now after this experience for this being my potential carry gun.

I don't blame you, but give the new striker a chance to show you otherwise.


Has there been a problem with strikers breaking?? I didnt read anything about that on here before I bought it.

I've never read of a striker breaking and some people dry fire their guns alot. Lightstrikes, on the otherhand, are unfortunately more common.

[jfrey]

Like Jocko and Bawanna said - it is too good a gun to give up on. Get it fixed (easy process if it is indeed the striker) and shoot the heck out of it. It would be nice if the shop where you bought it would throw in a box or two of ammo for your trouble. Otherwise, clean it properly first then shoot it - a bunch. You'll be glad you did.

[jocko]

No i dont know exactly where the striker broke. My Gunsmith buddy took it and kept it at the shop. I will be there tomorrow and I will ask him. If I remember to take my camera I will take a picture. How many posts do I need before I can post pics??

see the broken striker out of your kahr???? If they have another kahr in the case those strikers are all interchangeable.

I know it could be an inconvience but a photo sure would look nice showing the broken striker..

[MJS83]

Sorry to reply so late guys, I had other commitments today but I did stop by the shop/range this evening. My buddy had it apart. Here it is. It broke right at the tip.

Let me try to answer some of the questions:

The shop and range are one and the same. I purchased it last Saturday the 8th, I did follow the instructions on here for prepping the gun. I went back yesterday (Friday) to shoot it for the first time when this happened. Yes, technically I did dry fire it once when field stripping it. If that one pull broke the stiker I dont want the pistol!

The owners of the shop reassured me that they have never had an issue with a Kahr which made me feel a little better. They said they have never seen a striker on a Kahr break. My buddy told me he has over 2,000 rounds thru his P9 with NO issues. I did shoot about 25 rounds thru his before I bought this new one. All in all they said this type of thing does happen rarely but the P9 is a great pistol. I know them well and I respect their opinions. I am in there so often either spending money on pistols (they give me a nice discount) or shooting that they dont charge me range time sometimes.

I am in no way 'giving up' on the Kahr. I am just disheartened and my confidence took a serious hit but hearing all your positive experiences helps me a lot. I will get it fixed and let the pistol prove itself to me before I consider it as a carry gun. I know that this type of thing can happen once in a blue moon.

So can this be dry fired without without worrying? I typically dont dry fire any of my pistols but occasionally I will a few times.

What I dont know is how many others dry fired this while it was on display before I bought it. Would it matter??

Anyway, please keep the positive comments coming it helps me.

Let me know what you think of the pics and I will answer the questions the best I can.

Thanks guys!! :)

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[ripley16]

So can this be dry fired without without worrying? I typically dont dry fire any of my pistols but occasionally I will a few times.

What I dont know is how many others dry fired this while it was on display before I bought it. Would it matter??

This is actually good news for you. A simple, obvious, but very rare occurance is the problem. Diagnosis done, problem solved.

A Kahr is made to be dry fired and in fact must be in order to field strip. Anything can be overdone, but if you only dry fire when you have to, you should see no problems arise when your new part arrives.

My persoanal apology to your gun shop owner...he did in fact see the broken firing pin. It's just that we've never heard of one doing this.

Enjoy your P9 when it is back together. I am confident you're going to like it and get many years of reliable service.

[Bawanna]

Sorry to reply so late guys, I had other commitments today but I did stop by the shop/range this evening. My buddy had it apart. Here it is. It broke right at the tip.

Let me try to answer some of the questions:

The shop and range are one and the same. I purchased it last Saturday the 8th, I did follow the instructions on here for prepping the gun. I went back yesterday (Friday) to shoot it for the first time when this happened. Yes, technically I did dry fire it once when field stripping it. If that one pull broke the stiker I dont want the pistol!

The owners of the shop reassured me that they have never had an issue with a Kahr which made me feel a little better. They said they have never seen a striker on a Kahr break. My buddy told me he has over 2,000 rounds thru his P9 with NO issues. I did shoot about 25 rounds thru his before I bought this new one. All in all they said this type of thing does happen rarely but the P9 is a great pistol. I know them well and I respect their opinions. I am in there so often either spending money on pistols (they give me a nice discount) or shooting that they dont charge me range time sometimes.

I am in no way 'giving up' on the Kahr. I am just disheartened and my confidence took a serious hit but hearing all your positive experiences helps me a lot. I will get it fixed and let the pistol prove itself to me before I consider it as a carry gun. I know that this type of thing can happen once in a blue moon.

So can this be dry fired without without worrying? I typically dont dry fire any of my pistols but occasionally I will a few times.

What I dont know is how many others dry fired this while it was on display before I bought it. Would it matter??

Anyway, please keep the positive comments coming it helps me.

Let me know what you think of the pics and I will answer the questions the best I can.

Thanks guys!! :)

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Like ripley said your in good shape. Never heard of it but it's obvious, no gray area, quick easy fix. Jocko has over 25,000 rounds thru his PM9 so dry firing isn't an issue. Must have just been a little bit brittle striker or something. I see a long happy future for you and that Kahr when you regain your confidence in it which I don't think will take long. Thanks for the picture, its a sad pic but it made my day. I need closure.

[Michael W.]

Sorry to reply so late guys, I had other commitments today but I did stop by the shop/range this evening. My buddy had it apart. Here it is. It broke right at the tip.

Let me try to answer some of the questions:

The shop and range are one and the same. I purchased it last Saturday the 8th, I did follow the instructions on here for prepping the gun. I went back yesterday (Friday) to shoot it for the first time when this happened. Yes, technically I did dry fire it once when field stripping it. If that one pull broke the stiker I dont want the pistol!

The owners of the shop reassured me that they have never had an issue with a Kahr which made me feel a little better. They said they have never seen a striker on a Kahr break. My buddy told me he has over 2,000 rounds thru his P9 with NO issues. I did shoot about 25 rounds thru his before I bought this new one. All in all they said this type of thing does happen rarely but the P9 is a great pistol. I know them well and I respect their opinions. I am in there so often either spending money on pistols (they give me a nice discount) or shooting that they dont charge me range time sometimes.

I am in no way 'giving up' on the Kahr. I am just disheartened and my confidence took a serious hit but hearing all your positive experiences helps me a lot. I will get it fixed and let the pistol prove itself to me before I consider it as a carry gun. I know that this type of thing can happen once in a blue moon.

So can this be dry fired without without worrying? I typically dont dry fire any of my pistols but occasionally I will a few times.

What I dont know is how many others dry fired this while it was on display before I bought it. Would it matter??

Anyway, please keep the positive comments coming it helps me.

Let me know what you think of the pics and I will answer the questions the best I can.

Thanks guys!! :)

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Thanks for posting those pics. And I echo the sentiment of the other guys here...sucks that it broke but it's very nice that it's a definitive (if rare) failure than can be easily fixed. Only explanation I can think of is some metallurigcal fault in the pin itself. Actually, I am not positive whether the striker is a MIM part or a machined part...I'm sure Jocko would know.

In any case, looking forward to your report after its fixed.

Michael-

[wyntrout]

Yep... that sucker's broke. Thanks for the pix. I will admit that I initially found that hard to believe, but I guess it happens... but not very much!
I hope the new striker will make you a happy kahr owner. Many of us have had a few problems, but Kahr makes things right. Believe me, I've had that "Why me?" experience a few times.
Wynn:D

[jocko]

My sentiments exactly, I guess what most of us wanted to see was the broken striker as that just does not happen. U just got a bad strker from the git go. dry firing will not harm your kahr , let alone cause what happened. Most of us recommend using the snap caps as it is just additional protection BUT YOU CAN DRY FIRE THAT GUN.

I stated earlier that the P9 is the nicest polymer kahr made. they don't give issues, they shoot more than great andyet they are still light in weight. Get the gun fixed and then just go out and shoot it like you stole it and your faith will be renewed. And welcome to the forum, we have some great people here, a few doubting thomas's like I was about the striker breaking but now I can say without a doubt that I have seen one broken striker out of a kahr..

[MJS83]

Thanks for the replies guys. I am sorry my first posting had to be a negative one. I wanted it to be a positive one but i figured you guys would be very interested in this since it is a VERY rare occurance.

I am certain that once I get a new striker and put some rounds down the tube I will gain confidence the more I shoot it. I do really love the pistol and the way it shoots (well I should say the way my buddys shoots) LOL or I wouldnt have dropped six bills on it!

As I said my local shop already contacted Kahr directly about it and the striker is being sent to the shop, but I put an email together with the pics to Kahr. I will see what type of reply I get back. I would think that they may want the defective striker back for some metalurgical evaluation.

Hopefully it will arrive this week. I most likely wont get a chance to shoot it until Friday or Saturday. I will report back soon.


On a different topic why is it so difficult to find the P9 with the blackened slide? That is the one I really wanted but couldnt find it.

[MJS83]

The new striker arrived my local range during the week. My gunsmith buddy installed it on Friday and I went over Saturday to shoot it for the first time (again). My buddy noticed the difference between the new vs. broken striker. The broken striker had two very small casting lines on opposite sides of each other down the entire length of the striker and tip. It appears very obvious on the broken striker. You can feel it with your fingernail. The new striker had no such casting lines. It was smooth. It appears to have been a bad casting.

On to the shooting......................NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER :)

Obviously I was very happy to hear a bang instead of a click when I pulled the trigger for the first time! I hope to keep hearing bang when I pull the trigger. I put 230 rounds through it. Wasn't too concerned about accuracy during the break in, but actually it wasnt bad at all. The rear sight is off slightly, but I will correct that.

I have to get use to the long trigger pull and proper grip, but that will come with more range time. All in all I was very happy and I think me and my new P9 will become great friends after some bonding time :).

[jocko]

mjs83

On a different topic why is it so difficult to find the P9 with the blackened slide? That is the one I really wanted but couldnt find it.

very good question...

[MJS83]

mjs83

On a different topic why is it so difficult to find the P9 with the blackened slide? That is the one I really wanted but couldnt find it.

very good question...

Actually I had a phone call from Kahr this week after I sent them an email and pictures of the striker. I asked them this question about why it was difficult to find the black slide. I had a one word answer.....demand. That was it nothing else.

I was not impressed at all with the entire phone conversation but I am not going to post the discussion on here.

[rkirk]

It sounds like you P9 has recovered. Congratulations. Shoot and carry in safety.

-- Richard

[gtsrig]

Well, I guess I'll add my recent experience with the exact same thing.(bummer it's my 1st post)
I picked up the P9 a few months ago and it has worked great (approx. 300-400 rounds) no issues what so ever. When I first got it I field stripped it and cleaned all the excess oil and relubed according to the lube chart found on this forum. Life was good.
Then, last night I started the first session of a defensive shooting league and when my turn came I stepped up to the line and loaded the mag and chamber and pulled the trigger, nothing, reloaded, nothing again, after several tries I unloaded and pulled the slide and couldn't see anything.
So, when I got home I pulled the striker/firing pin and this is what I found.:eek:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk192/gtsrig/Weapons/KahrP9BrokenFiringPin.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk192/gtsrig/Weapons/KahrP9FiringPin.jpg

I sent Kahr an email to show them what happened and they responded 1st thing this morning and said they were sending a new striker and spring right out:D. They said it was a fluke. It must be, because I had to search quite a bit to find any other instances like this until I finally found this thread.
I'm not wigged out by this at all. When dealing with mechanical tools these things can happen. In my mind it shouldn't happen but it does from time to time. Once the new assembly arrives I will keep shooting and enjoying it.
By the way nice to meet you guys on this forum.:yo:
GT

[jocko]

WELCOME ABOARD. You got a real fluke there. evidently someone forgot to harden that striker. I have never seen one that bad.

You have a super nice kahr by the way..

[Bawanna]

Welcome aboard, I'm glad you posted that picture, sorry your guns broke. Yours looks more like it was too soft and it's peaned rather that broken from the get go like MJS's was. First I've heard of that happening either.
Glad your staying positive on this, things happen as you say. At least this one is simple to fix and obvious with no gray area.
I hate the ones where somethings wrong and you can't figure out what the heck it is.

Welcome again, keep us in the loop.

[wyntrout]

Welcome, MJS. Nice pictures. I think everyone ought to get used to stripping the slide once in a while. You could see the progression of something like that and fix it before it becomes a life or death issue, should the gun fail during self-defense. :eek:
I was hesitant... or scared... to strip the slide, but with the posts here and helpful advice like the "C"- clamp made from a coat hanger, it was easy the first time, and really a piece of cake after that. Now I know what's in there and how the parts work together.
I've had a K9 for 13 years and not fired it that much... way less than 1000 rounds. I think I took the slide apart for the first time after stripping one of my newer guns.
That's one of the great things about this forum... helping each other, learning stuff, and making new friends. It's a nice "community".
Wynn:D

[gtsrig]

While waiting for the new firing pin I decided to detail strip every thing and look what I found.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk192/gtsrig/Weapons/KahrP9FiringPinTip.jpg

The broken tip was in the extractor spring chamber. I'm believing the new one will be a lot stronger. When it comes I'll show the difference between the two.

[Bawanna]

Wow, so it did break and then apparently it must have worked for a bit even broken as it seems to have peened itself on the striker channel hole. Or it got dryfired a bunch trying to make it shoot. Probably softer that far back on the striker so might not have taken too many hits for that to happen.

Looks to have broke clean originally. To brittle or something I reckon.

[wyntrout]

The stump peened on the striker "firing pin" hole. Dang, I was thinking... without thinking too much, I guess, that we were looking at the peened tip of the firing pin.:rolleyes:
If you had just replaced the striker without finding that piece, you could have had another, maybe bigger, problem!
I remember taking apart S&W revolvers as I got them to dump the metal shavings and crap out before it got into things and jammed them up. Shavings or chips half the size of my little fingernail can jam things up or make the cylinder not turn so smoothly... been there... glad I found the problems at the range and not when I needed reliable defense!
Wynn:)

[gtsrig]

I had been dry firing quite a bit the last week working on trigger control. So, I don't know if it broke my last live fire session or some time while dry firing.


I know what you mean on the wheel guns. It really pays to clean these things out completely periodically to make sure all is good.
I'm glad I found the tip, now I know all is good.

[jocko]

dry firing should not have caused it to break. You just got a bad one. Lucky for you, tha tyou caught it like u did. Nice work IMO.

[wyntrout]

I found with new S&W's, it was good to do that before firing them for the first time. They were bad about leaving machining residue... some large chips, inside the gun. This was back in the 70's and early 80's, though. You could have intermittent lockups of the cylinder or the trigger mechanism.
Now I only have one revolver... a H&R 929, 9-shot .22 that I bought from my elderly, widowed-twice neighbor. Someone had offered her $30 for it and she asked me what it was worth. I looked it up, told her, and then offered her a fair price of $85, which she took. That was at least 10 years ago. That is loaded with Stingers and stays at the head of my wife's side of the bed. She's not semi-auto trained and doesn't have the inclination, so that's all she wants. In the Air Force we both had to qualify with the S&W Model 15's with Magna Grips... I hated those grips. I would have to get a new grip between shots. I never had any military experience with the 9mm autos. The Air Force was slow switching over to those and I retired mid-1988.
She didn't retire until '96, so I don't know if she ever trained with the M9 Beretta.

If you haven't noticed, I tend to ramble.

I shoulda been taking a nap, but I'm still waiting on FedEx to pick up my PM45... for the fourth time! I accidentally set up an account with FedEx for returning my guns to Kahr. I only use it when authorized by them, though.:D
Wynn:D

[jocko]

WYN:
QUOTE:If you haven't noticed, I tend to ramble

WHAT WAS your first clue to that????

[wyntrout]

See what I came up with when I Googled Bawanna, mine, and your "names"

http://kahrtalk.com/general-discussion/2879-august-just-say-what-ya-wanna-say-thread-8.html#post32664

Wynn:)

[gtsrig]

Hey Guys new member here. I have been reading on here for over a month as I researched about purchasing a Kahr P9 for a carry gun. My local gun shop and range recommended the P9. My buddy is the gunsmith there and he let me shoot his P9 and I loved it so I purchased the one they had in the shop. I took it home and field stripped it and did a basic cleaning and lube per the instructions on here.

I went back today excited to put some rounds through it. :) Loaded both the 7 & 8 round mags; put the 7 mag in, released the slide, took aim, pulled the trigger and.........................CLICK. :mad: Dropped the mag, cleared the round, took a quick look then reinserted the mag, released the slide, took aim, pulled the trigger and...............CLICK.:mad: Same routine again but I put the eight round mag in and........CLICK:mad:

Called my gunsmith buddy out to take a look...............CLICK :mad:

He looked at it and said you have a broken striker! He and I were both stunned since we both knew I hadnt even put one round down the tube.

He was pissed (because he recommended the gun to me) so he immediately called Kahr and told them he just sold me a brand new gun (never shot) and the striker was broke. They are sending the new striker to him at the shop.

I did not dry fire it at all either.

I have to say my confidence level is zero right now after this experience for this being my potential carry gun.

Has there been a problem with strikers breaking?? I didnt read anything about that on here before I bought it.

Hopefully Kahr will get the striker out real soon. Hopefully you guys can give me your experiences and help build my confidence up on this P9.

Thanks for the help.


Hey MJS, I was wondering what serial # yours is. Mine is EA31XX. Was thinking maybe they turned out batch of firing pins at that time not up to par.
GT

[jocko]

did he take the gun apart?? Meaning the slide. If the striker was broken, there should have been broken peaces. It is very very very rare but this is the second broken striker that we have seen. Kahr will get you a new striker. You will be OK, the P9 is just one super gun. a shame it did what it did. dry firing willnot cause it, a defective material certainly will..

best confidence buillder is 200 flawless rounds down range and you will soon forget the broken striker. while ur waiting, u can go to the kahr tech section and hit on the PROPPER PREPPING OF YOUR NEW KAHR and give it a in house work out and be ready whent he striker arrives..

One nice thing about your confidence lever being ZERO. is that it only has one way to go and that is UP..

did u see the broken striker ...

[gtsrig]

He said in his post that his smith took it apart. Don't know about the pieces.
In my previous posts I showed the tip of the firing pin I found in the the chamber that houses the ejector spring and rods. When I first got the P9 I took it all apart and cleaned it up good and then lubed according to the chart found on this sight. I'm sure all will be good once the new striker/firing pin is installed. These guns are real easy to work on.

[RogerP9fan]

Thanks for the interesting posting. I've put my first 100 rounds through my P9 this week flawlessly. Very happy with the pistol, just have to get used to the new trigger pull for me and put Mepro night sights on it as I prefer the 3 dot set up anyway. I was shooting groups a little low.

Gonna put another 100 down range next week.

Based on jocko's posting, seems like this particular striker problem is very rare, so I'm not going to loose sleep over it, but sorry about your experiences and wish you the best and back up running smoothly.

[gtsrig]

Got the new striker/firing pin yesterday from Kahr (Mass. to Calif.). It took a few days to get here. Went out this morning after installing the new striker, plunger and spring. Shot 100 rounds flawlessly. Even though they said I could dry fire the P9 with no problem, I still picked up some snap caps and will use them every time. Still can't figure out why the pin broke. I really cleaned the firing pin chamber and made sure every part was spotless and then lubed according to the 10 point chart. Anyway, all is good now.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk192/gtsrig/Weapons/IMG_0845.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk192/gtsrig/Weapons/IMG_0848.jpg

[RogerP9fan]

Well, unfortunately for me, since the last posting and to set the record straight, I've had 6 failures of the trigger to reset while firing. Dead trigger. Going back to Kahr next week.