View Full Version : G19 question that I gotta ask....
certified106
12-05-2013, 06:09 PM
Ok so I was complaining to my wife the other day that I really wanted a beater gun to keep on the tractor, kayak etc. Well I happened to be at the LGS as they were receiving a shipment of Gen 2 G19s. I ended up digging through about 15 of them and found one I was happy with. Walked out the door with it for $248 including tax.
After getting it home and cleaning it up I realized it has the piece of trash NY compliant law enforcement trigger with crisp 8.5# pull so that just isn't going to fly with me. Now here is where it gets interesting, I called Glock and they said send the gun back and they would strip, clean and replace anything that was outside of spec for free and send it back with a certified letter stating in was within tolerance. They also said for 60 bucks they would strip and recoat the slide and put a new barrel in and for an additional $57 they would put new factory night sights on it.
My question is am I being ridiculous about this I could just keep it use it as a beater gun like I wanted and for $20 replace the trigger bar and spring or would you drop the extra $117 in it and have a completely refreshed Glock 19 for a total of $357 in the gun?
Here are a few pics of it right after I got home with it.
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jocko
12-05-2013, 06:48 PM
If it ain'
tbroke don't fix it.If u sendit to glock you are gonna be out some nice up front bucks just to ship it to them. I think the price and everything thgat they offered u is excellent, u willg et a new gun out of it.
If it was mine I would not even fokkwith the trigger change, I can live with tht poundage YMMV U said it,,,, a beater gun,,,why beautify it and then it won't be a beater gun. More than likely is shows holster wear certainly IMO not sooting wear, as the NYPD has a full time glock armorer on staff,so no doubt in my mind the internals are perfect.. why not give it a 100 round sto se ehow bador how good you mighgt like or dislike the trigger.
downtownv
12-05-2013, 06:49 PM
Only you can answer that one. I like my firearms to look nice, but it IS a Glock so that will never happen. (They are borne Ugly) If a beater is what you want, get the trigger job and spend the savings on ammo!
oppi27
12-05-2013, 07:18 PM
My night sights where $100 so that parts pretty good. But it only takes 5 minutes to change out the trigger connector. So I would probably go the cheap route
booger switch
12-05-2013, 07:27 PM
I would swap out the NY1 for a std 5.5 lb trigger spring, clean it up inside and out, install a new recoil assembly, and call it a day. Plenty good enough for your stated purpose.
ParabellumJ
12-05-2013, 07:30 PM
If you want to replace the trigger group and connector to factory Glock 5.5 lb specs it only takes about 2 minutes and you can use a bic pen for a takedown tool. Also, if you want that gun restored those are good prices and Glock customer service is great. If it were me and it was just a beater I would change out the trigger, shoot a few boxes of ammo through it and then see if you want any work done. Either way you can't go wrong.
certified106
12-05-2013, 07:44 PM
I kind of agree with all of you I just needed someone to help push me that way lol. I think I will leave it as is for right now since it really isn't in bad shape it's just not perfect. I really did plan on using it when out on the tractor or 4 wheeler as it always seems like I have a coyote come running in front of me at some inopportune time when I am in the woods.
I guess I am eccentric about my guns and it bugs me to know there is one sitting there that isn't perfect however if it's perfect it probably won't be out in a rain storm with me when I need it lol.
I didn't think the price on this one was bad for the condition and it still seems to be in excellent working order. All the internals seem to be in great shape and the only real issue is some slight spotting on the slide and some very slight rust around the sights
DeaconKC
12-05-2013, 08:41 PM
That was a great price for the purchase. I would try someone's Glock with the standard 5.5 trigger before swapping as I carry a 23 with the 5.5 as my issue weapon and like the feel of the 8 pounder better. However i grew up shooting revolvers so 8 pounds is not awkward to me. Stick with factory magazines.
If you want to replace the trigger group and connector to factory Glock 5.5 lb specs it only takes about 2 minutes and you can use a bic pen for a takedown tool. Also, if you want that gun restored those are good prices and Glock customer service is great. If it were me and it was just a beater I would change out the trigger, shoot a few boxes of ammo through it and then see if you want any work done. Either way you can't go wrong.
x2 on this one...
imo Gen2 Glocks are the ultimate appliance guns
b4uqzme
12-05-2013, 09:05 PM
It sounds like the best part of the deal was the great price you got on the gun. Spending money on it seems counter productive IMNSHO.
But it's your choice of course. Can't go wrong from here.
b4uqzme
12-05-2013, 09:07 PM
P.S. At that price you probably could've even talked me into one....until you posted the pictures. Yuck! :rolleyes:
chrish
12-05-2013, 09:10 PM
Ditto to the other comments. I think I'd probably PREFER a Glock beater/car/boat gun to have the 8+ lb trigger actually. But either way, agreed, get the trigger and do it yourself, or get it done locally, and skip the trip back to momma.
wsgrady
12-05-2013, 10:57 PM
FYI most places it cost 85 to 120 dollars to ship a handgun, overnight the only way fedex and ups will ship. Post office will not ship handguns so one needs to add this in to shipping both ways in most cases..
wyntrout
12-05-2013, 11:17 PM
You don't have to use the fastest rate... just overnight. There are about 3 rates from the next morning, midday, and afternoon. The cheapest was about $60+. The businesses get much better rates... maybe half what we pay.
Wynn:)
chrish
12-06-2013, 12:45 AM
If you have to ship, find an FFL that'll do it for you. and cozy up to them. They can ship USPS, 5.99 for the box that'll hold pretty much any handgun. Add insurance, signing for a few bucks, you are less than $15 for shipping and slide them a $20, most will do it. Going back to the manufacturer or to a gunsmith doesn't require them to do any paperwork, but their FFL lets them ship USPS.
Fxstchewy
12-06-2013, 05:50 AM
For a "beater gun" i would fire it some and make sure it's working ok then leave it alone.
P.S. At that price you probably could've even talked me into one....until you posted the pictures. Yuck! :rolleyes:
I thought it looked pretty good.
certified106
12-06-2013, 05:14 PM
Put 100 rounds through it today of cheap Tulammo steel case and it functioned perfectly. I don't like the trigger but that more has to do with the fact I compare it to my 27, 23, and 22. I think I am going to hold off on sending it back at this point and just abuse it for awhile. I had it strapped on while walking out to check trail cams tonight in the pouring rain and it didn't bother me since it's not perfect. It actually seems like a decent farm gun for what I paid. I had bee looking at a SCCY for a beater but I like this G19 way more than any SCCY I have ever picked up and it was cheaper also.
I did check into shipping through UPS and it was going to be right at $50 to overnight it to Glock if I choose to go that way.
If you have to ship, find an FFL that'll do it for you. and cozy up to them. They can ship USPS, 5.99 for the box that'll hold pretty much any handgun. Add insurance, signing for a few bucks, you are less than $15 for shipping and slide them a $20, most will do it. Going back to the manufacturer or to a gunsmith doesn't require them to do any paperwork, but their FFL lets them ship USPS.
I did not realize that but thanks for the tip. If I decide to send it back at some point I will try to get the local shop to ship it for me.
I thought it looked pretty good.
I think they were just saying it was a butt ugly handgun...... I won't necessarily disagree but I sure have no problems shooting them.
Glocks are the handgun equivalent of real AKs and SKSs. Not all that pretty but work really well, dead stone reliable, don't break the bank, and just get the job done.
berettabone
12-06-2013, 08:54 PM
I'd trade it in for something else.....................................
Planedude
12-06-2013, 10:21 PM
I'm just jealous, I've been looking for a 17 or a 19 gen 2 for a good price for a loooooong time.
You found a stack of them to pick thru...
I'd just fix the trigger at home and shoot it like you stole it. Forever.
Consider my two cents paid in full.
b4uqzme
12-07-2013, 12:48 AM
I thought it looked pretty good.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
certified106
12-07-2013, 04:43 PM
My friend wanted in on that price so we went in and picked one out for him this afternoon but while we were there another guy cam in and bought three of them. There aren't to many left now lol,
Barth
12-07-2013, 06:53 PM
I've got a gen 3 G27 myself.
And really like the NY1 with a Glock OEM '-' connector.
You can change the connector yourself with a butter knife and a punch in about three minutes.
There are lots of videos on youtube.
I'd go with a "-" connector or replace the NY1 with a stock spring.
Replace the RSA.
Clean, lube and shoot.
jocko
12-07-2013, 08:02 PM
whats a butter knofe???/ Just sayin
Tinman507
12-07-2013, 08:04 PM
Like a butter face except a knife
http://ifunnyimages.com/uploads/troll_images/238_Butterface.jpg
Plastic boobs are too big.
whats a butter knofe???/ Just sayin
An Irish gremlin from the mid 1700s. Woulda thought you'd have known that. :40:
les strat
12-11-2013, 07:26 PM
Change the trigger out yourself for less than shipping would be. You can do it. There are tutorials all over youtube.
NICE find BTW!
certified106
12-11-2013, 07:57 PM
Change the trigger out yourself for less than shipping would be. You can do it. There are tutorials all over youtube.
NICE find BTW!
I already completely stripped the gun and cleaned it and I ordered new springs and a 3.5 lb connector. It will only take a few minutes to change them out when they finally get here. I swear a Glock is about as easy as it gets to disassemble a handgun.
b4uqzme
12-11-2013, 08:03 PM
Like a butter face except a knife
http://ifunnyimages.com/uploads/troll_images/238_Butterface.jpg
And I thought the G19 was ugly.... Just sayin'. :eek:
les strat
12-11-2013, 08:07 PM
And I thought the G19 was ugly.... Just sayin'. :eek:
I think they still make brown paper bags. You go to jail using plastic bags. just sayin.
:biggrin1:
lamppa
12-11-2013, 10:02 PM
You f a g s would drool over a skank like that if she were in your house.
I have banged uglier hoes with hot bods than that chick.
You cant fool me, i know you guys would bang her in a heartbeat, hell 3 of you prob already got her in your spank bag. Hahahahaha
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I would swap out the NY1 for a std 5.5 lb trigger spring, clean it up inside and out, install a new recoil assembly, and call it a day. Plenty good enough for your stated purpose.
This^^^
And while your at it, replace the trigger spring with an OEM spring. I would also replace the mag(s) spring and update the followers.
If you don't have a local source for Glock parts, Lone Wolf Dist (http://www.lonewolfdist.com/) has everything you will need.
Or...Glockmeister (http://www.glockmeister.com/Followers/products/49)
For the price you paid, you got a real good pistol that will serve you well for a long time.
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