Back pocket carry question

[ammodave]

I'm considering carrying my CW380 in a wallet holster in my right back pocket but I have questions. Which is more comfortable--carrying with the butt of the gun facing to the right or left? It seems the draw would be easier with the butt facing right. I'm considering an Uncle George holster http://www.unclegeorgeswalletholsters.com/Pages/default.aspx but I need to tell him whether I want a right or left hand holster. The DeSantis Trickster http://jdholsters.com/product/desantis-trickster-leather-holster-fits-kahr-p380-ambidextrous/ is also an option at a better price. Any experience with either of these?

[jocko]

never had those brands of back pocket rigs but I can remmebertrying to carry my kel tek 380 inmy back pocket, as I always wear jeans and the fokker stuck out at the \top where one cold see it was a gun even. Never worked good for me..

[Captquest]

I've had a little Beretta Jetfire in .25 ACP in a custom made wallet holster for about 20yrs. It's my better than nothing if you can't run fast enough rig. Works really well in my back pocket, gun slips right out with thumb.

[Rotorflyr]

Don't carry in a rear pocket, but the Uncle George is pretty nicely made.
Have never seen that particular DeSantis.

[chrish]

If I'm going somewhere that I'm gonna be walking around the entire time, I sometimes drop my remora and P9 into my back pocket. Long shirt required. But the Remora sticks really well. It's gonna be a bit thicker than the two options you are looking at, but if you go w/ the non-RFT version, those are much thinner than what I carry. Also, StickyHolster would be an option also. Both will keep the holster in place when you draw, unlike the two you are looking at right now. Those will print a bit less if you are going tucked shirt.

[booger switch]

I much prefer the slide as far toward the outside as possible. Plus I think the draw works better that way as well. For me, that means right hand draw with the butt facing the butt crack so to speak.

[VN Vet]

You do realize that comfort is a subjective issue, don't you? Only you can define what is comfortable to you. While some people do carry a small handgun in their back pocket I do not recommend it or small of the back carry.

Please remember that carrying a handgun is not meant to be comfortable, it is meant to be comforting.

[skiflydive]

I don't believe Uncle George makes a left hand P380 holster. It's covered in his FAQ's. I have the right hand. It's my EDC. I recommend it.

[otium]

I have the uncle george holster for the LCP. I usually IWB carry, so I don't use this method of carry every day. For me it is more of a special occasion item when I might use this or a smart carry type holster. It is a right hand model that I wear in my right side rear pocket with the slide facing the the outside. It fits fine in my wrangler jeans and in my suit pants without protruding out the top of the pocket with either pants.

[Ol'coot]

I do not have the CW380 but I carry my LCP in a Uncle Georges holster everyday a my "BUG". I am right handed and carry it in the right back pocket. with a little practice it become easy to draw. I have been carrying this way for several years now and have no had even on person question me as it really does looks like a wallet in your pocket.

[xsailer]

I wear Wrangler and Levis. Levis's rear pocket is larger and therefor will completely cover my Cm9 in a De Santis sticky holster. If you look down in my pocket you can see the back end of the gun. It's approx. 1/8" below the top edge of the pocket. When I carry in Wrangler's it fits in the pocket but tighter and not as deep and therefor not as quick a draw at a possible crucial time. With a shirt untucked no would know you're CC'n.

[garyb]

You do realize that comfort is a subjective issue, don't you? Only you can define what is comfortable to you. While some people do carry a small handgun in their back pocket I do not recommend it or small of the back carry.

Please remember that carrying a handgun is not meant to be comfortable, it is meant to be comforting.

I totally agree...but to a point, in that carrying a handgun CAN be comfortable and comforting. Nothing says it is not meant to be comfortable to carry a handgun. It most certainly can be. However, everyone needs to seek a carry method that is most comfortable for them. As for ammodave's question, I suggest you simply try to carry it back pocket in any way that works for you. It certainly is not for me to sit on my handgun in my back pocket nor small of back for the same reasons VNVet is probably thinking. But to each his own. No right or wrong here. Just do what feels right to you.

[aemsee]

Be leery of hitting the mag release with it in your back pocket. Even bending over with tight jeans can pop it loose. I will often carry a .25 Jetfire or a P3AT in my back pocket when going for walks when I know I wont be sitting anywhere. The P3AT in a soft Uncle Mikes and the Beretta in a home made wallet holster, made from, a wallet:D

Both are carried in my right back pocket with the butt toward my spine. So I can draw it like I was removing my wallet

[xsailer]

I'm considering carrying my CW380 in a wallet holster in my right back pocket but I have questions. Which is more comfortable--carrying with the butt of the gun facing to the right or left? It seems the draw would be easier with the butt facing right. I'm considering an Uncle George holster http://www.unclegeorgeswalletholsters.com/Pages/default.aspx but I need to tell him whether I want a right or left hand holster. The DeSantis Trickster http://jdholsters.com/product/desantis-trickster-leather-holster-fits-kahr-p380-ambidextrous/ is also an option at a better price. Any experience with either of these?

I remember my CC instructor said he wouldn't allow his students to draw cross holster or as you suggest back pocket with gun butt toward pointed out (slide toward spine). He said for a draw from either position means you have to twist you hand or when drawn most likely be aiming the muzzle toward a fellow student or teacher as compared to a typical draw with muzzle not being pointed toward anything but your foot or the target in front of you.

[DeaconKC]

I switched to carrying my wallet in the back pocket and keeping the PF9 in the front. Just a suggestion or in honor of Jocko
Just sayin

[ammodave]

I made a mock-up wallet style holster by just taping the pistol to a piece of heavy cardboard and carrying it around in my back pocket all day (at home). Having the slide facing outward in my right back pocket is really comfortable and unobtrusive. Having the slide facing inward with the butt toward your right side is NOT comfortable if you have a slim build. So I've decided I need a right handed holster (that rules out the Trickster). I'm thinking Uncle George will be my choice. Thanks for the help.

[booger switch]

Dave, check your PM's.

[muggsy]

If yer gonna carry a gun where your wallet should go where ya gonna carry yer wallet? A curious mind wants to know.

[Planedude]

If yer gonna carry a gun where your wallet should go where ya gonna carry yer wallet? A curious mind wants to know.


After I my 45th birthday, I found I could not sit on a wallet anymore. Carry the wallet left front and pocket carry right front. Best to have a good belt too.
I have checked out the Uncle George holster on a vendor table at the local gunshow. Cool piece of kit, but the Nemesis worked out right for me instead.

Will watch the thread to see what you choose and how it works out for you.
Good luck with the search.

[SlowBurn]

I carry front right pocket, but imo if you're going to carry right back pocket, having the butt facing out to the right is a really BAD idea. There's almost no way to draw and present from that position without covering your own abdomen with the muzzle in the process. Never cover anything you're not willing to destroy.

[LD48750]

Here is another one you may want to look at.

The one I have seems to be of good quality & works as advertised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqQxA9jBaWg

[JohnR]

I still have my Uncle George wallet holster for my LCP which I sold long ago. It always worked fine, draw wasn't that hard, it worked as advertised.

[ScooterS]

Uncle George has been my EDC P380 holster for more than a year.
I actually bought it for my Taurus, but it fits the Kahr and Ruger as well.

I'm left handed and ordered a LH Taurus. No problems at all using it with my P380.

It is comfortable in my L Hip and L Front pocket.

Highly recommended!

[leftysixty]

If you have ever fallen or been knocked on yer backside by accident or by someone trying to do you harm, you may be unhappy to find that it hurt way more than you thought it should.

Should the item carried behind your back or in a back pocket be knife, gun, cuffs, wallet, or whatever the injury could be and sometimes is disabling!!

Beware! and do as you see fit. Just my 2 bits worth, for free!

[LD48750]

If you have ever fallen or been knocked on yer backside by accident or by someone trying to do you harm, you may be unhappy to find that it hurt way more than you thought it should.

Should the item carried behind your back or in a back pocket be knife, gun, cuffs, wallet, or whatever the injury could be and sometimes is disabling!!

Beware! and do as you see fit. Just my 2 bits worth, for free!

While you make a valid point, I believe more people have been saved by the gun, knife, or whatever carried behind their back then have been "disabled" by falling on them.
I would class the disabling fall as a freak accident. Something that if you worry about it, maybe you shouldn't carry a gun at all because it might go off & kill or injure you or someone else.

[leftysixty]

Maybe you aren't in harms way that often, or not prone to accidents!

I know what I think I know and have seen. Your mileage may vary!

As grandpa used to say "do what you want cause you will any way":D

God Speed

[muggsy]

I've got to agree with lefty. You back pocket is one of the worst places to carry a gun, but it beats not carrying a gun at all. It's extremely hard to access if your on your back. It's difficult to bring the gun into play without first pointing it at yourself. There are downsides to carrying from every position, but in the rear pocket has got to be the worst.

[skiflydive]

It's not hard to access at all. It's right there. It's easier IMHO than pulling my shirt up and accessing the gun that way. With the butt of the gun pointing toward the crack of your a$$ you can draw it and it never points at you. It would with the grip pointed the other way though. It's at 5:30 vs 4, it's a few inches lower than a belt carry, it's not stuck under your shirt and most important...if you're being robbed for your wallet it's where you'd go to get your wallet out adding that extra fraction of a second of surprise.

[garyb]

Not my personal preference and probably not the best carry for a number of reasons, but has some positive points....one being that it is on you and not in the vault and two being that if you like to carry this way...go for it and why make issue of it.

[booger switch]

It's not hard to access at all. It's right there. It's easier IMHO than pulling my shirt up and accessing the gun that way. With the butt of the gun pointing toward the crack of your a$$ you can draw it and it never points at you. It would with the grip pointed the other way though. It's at 5:30 vs 4, it's a few inches lower than a belt carry, it's not stuck under your shirt and most important...if you're being robbed for your wallet it's where you'd go to get your wallet out adding that extra fraction of a second of surprise.

I agree. I generally prefer to carry two small guns, instead of one larger one. I carry one in front pocket, and a spare in the back pocket. Both pockets are much better options in my opinion than ankle carry, or even IWB.

Front pocket carry is so natural, you can have your hand on the gun ready to draw, and no one has a clue.

[jocko]

really not to sure about alla this fast drazw area stuff, every areahas it plus's and minus's. Just having a gun on u puts u way ahead of the clux that isn't. I never got to paranoid about carrying two guns, seemslike over kill to mewhen indeed ur chances of every pulling a gun and using it are in the high 905 range. I know of only one forum member here who has had to pull his gun and actually shoot someone. Might be more I dunno but one that id do know of. Just sayin

[muggsy]

It's not hard to access at all. It's right there. It's easier IMHO than pulling my shirt up and accessing the gun that way. With the butt of the gun pointing toward the crack of your a$$ you can draw it and it never points at you. It would with the grip pointed the other way though. It's at 5:30 vs 4, it's a few inches lower than a belt carry, it's not stuck under your shirt and most important...if you're being robbed for your wallet it's where you'd go to get your wallet out adding that extra fraction of a second of surprise.

You seem to have missed my point. You can't reach behind you if your assailant has you on the ground like Trayvon had Zimmerman. You're never going to get your gun out of your pocket.

[h2ohhh]

Guess every 'concealed' location could make access tough in certain situations or positions. My EDC is a CW45 in the small of my back using a Desantis adjustable cant IWB. It's comfortable (especially while driving) and fairly easy to access. It might take me a second longer than other locations, I admit. My pocket pistol is a Sig P(shooter)238 .380 in a Desantis pocket holster. Right front and virtually invisible.http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/etegyve9.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/y4e2e9yg.jpg

[muggsy]

I carry my CM9 AIWB. To me it's the fastest place from which to put the gun into action. All that I have to do is clear, rotate and fire. Next best is front pocket or IWB 4 o'clock position carry. The decision is your of course. The life you save may be your own.

[smokemup]

I've carried both rear wallet style, right handed, butt to the left, and front waistband style, as cross-draw. I find either one satisfactory, but the cross-draw is my preferred method. I've read where people say cross-draw is not an accepted method, but, uh, by who? LOL

I tell ya the reason I like cross-draw is that it's the easiest and quickest way for me to get to my micro pistol. It conceals so much better (on me) than anything on the side unless I'm standing straight up and just fluffed my shirt. Anything else and ...print. Not so with IWB in the front. I first started doing this because of getting in and out of the car. If you're right handed and cross draw to the left, well guess what, no seat belts are in the way and it's very easy and quick to get to.

[SlowBurn]

Front pocket carry is so natural, you can have your hand on the gun ready to draw, and no one has a clue.

+1
And for carrying while driving, as you get in, you can just take the holster/gun out of your front pocket and jam it between the seat and console (or somewhere similar). Put it back in your pocket as you get out. All very natural and inconspicuous.

[muggsy]

[QUOTE=h2ohhh;278467]Guess every 'concealed' location could make access tough in certain situations or positions. My EDC is a CW45 in the small of my back using a Desantis adjustable cant IWB. It's comfortable (especially while driving) and fairly easy to access. It might take me a second longer than other locations, I admit. My pocket pistol is a Sig P(shooter)238 .380 in a Desantis pocket holster. Right front and virtually invisible.

The biggest problem with small of the back carry is that you're risking damage to your spinal column by wearing a gun there. if you are knocked flat on your back, it doesn't take much damage to your spine to cause permanent paralysis. It's got to be the last place that I'd recommend that you carry a gun.