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[Glock23]

It's official! The Illinois State Police have officially begun accepting applications for concealed carry licenses!

As of 4:36pm central time today, my application has been submitted and, with any luck, I'll legally be able to exercise my 2nd amendment right in public within the next 90 days.

[ltxi]

It's official! The Illinois State Police have officially begun accepting applications for concealed carry licenses!

As of 4:36pm central time today, my application has been submitted and, with any luck, I'll legally be able to exercise my 2nd amendment right in public within the next 90 days.

Having been doin' this for most all of my last 50 plus years I've kinda lost the bubble on what virgin feels like....but congrats and welcome to the club.

[muggsy]

That makes it unanimous. All 50 states. A win for our side.

[garyb]

Stand united. Good news. Good for you Glock.

[downtownv]

State opts not to defend N.J. gun law


By Kathleen Hopkins

@khopkinsapp

The New Jersey Supreme Court will be hearing challenges to the state’s strict requirements to obtain gun-car*rying permits, but it won’t be the Attor*ney General’s Office defending the state law; instead, prosecutors in Mon*mouth and Essex counties will have that task.

And that has some pundits and gun*control supporters asserting that Gov. Chris Christie is trying to distance him*self from gun laws that are among the strictest in the nation in order to curry favor on the national stage with conser*vative Republicans for an upcoming presidential bid.

A spokesman for Monmouth County acting Prosecutor Christopher Gramiccioni said there is nothing at all political about the office defending the state’s carrying permit requirements in an expected appeal before the state Supreme Court.

“It never had anything to do with politics,” said prosecutor’s spokesman Charles Webster. “This is a case that started with us, has remained with us and it will continue to be our case as we argue it before the Supreme Court.”

But others assert the g overnor, by not taking the lead in defending the state law through his attorney general, is pandering to the political right.

“It is very unusual for the attorney general of the state to avoid defending that state’s laws,” said Bryan Miller, executive director of Heeding God’s Call, a faith-based organization against gun violence operating in the mid-Atlantic states, including New Jersey.

“I don’t doubt that the reason for the attorney general and the Christie a dministration to fail to defend New Jersey’s public-safety law is because Gov. Christie is running for president, and he wants to please the right wing of the Republican Party and the Tea Party,” Miller said. “I think it’s an unprincipled, purely partisan, selfish act, and he has put his own national political ambitions ahead of New Jersey’s public safety.”

Christie’s spokesman, Michael Drewniak, rebuffed the assertions.

“The governor supports New Jersey’s already- tough gun laws,” Drewniak said.

Drewniak pointed out that the county prosecutors’ offices are subdivisions of the Attorney General’s Office that are supervised by the attorney general.

But Miller and others said it speaks volumes that the Attorney General’s Office is relegating defense of the law to county prosecutors in two cases. In one, a panel of judges with the Appellate Division of Superior Court on Monday upheld t he denial of carrying permits to two retired arson investigators from the Newark Fire Department. In the other, an Appellate Division panel in February upheld the denial of a carrying permit to a Manalapan landscaper, Richard Pantano, despite Pantano’s claims he needs to carry a gun because of the large cash transactions he takes part in during the course of his business.

Both cases center on the state law requiring that someone demonstrate “justifiable need” to carry a firearm to obtain a carrying permit. T he law requires an applicant to show “an urgent necessity for self-protection,” based on “specific threats or previous attacks demonstrating a special danger to the applicant’s life that cannot be avoided by other means,” according to Monday’s decision on the Essex County case. In both the Essex County and Monmouth County cases, the appellate judges found the applicants hadn’t demonstrated such need. The state Supreme Court has agreed to hear Pantano’s claim that the law violates the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees the right to bear arms. There is no date set for arguments before the Supreme Court.

“The state has and will continue to participate in litigation concerning state laws of all kinds,” said Leland Moore, a spokesman for the Attorney General’s office. “In this instance, the Essex County Prosecutor’s Office took the lead. The Monmouth County Prosec utor is the lead in another case. In other matters, the state is the lead.”

A leading appellant attorney said it is unusual for the attorney general not to jump into the act in such a case.

“In my experience in having a lot of cases I’ve argued in front of the (state) Supreme Court, when it appears that the case will have a widespread impact on individual rights, the Attorney General’s office does, in fact, join local prosecut ors ... or replaces a local prosecutor’s office,” said Jeffrey S. Mandel, chairm an of the appellate practice special committee of the New Jersey State Bar Association. “Cases that have widespread implications on individual rights are the type of cases that would get the attorney general’s office involved.”

Nicola Bocour, director of Ceasefire NJ, another anti-gun violence group, said she can think of only one reason why the governor would want his administration to sit this one out.

“It seems the only semi-rational reason to do this is to appease the people he’s hoping will fund him in a national election,” Bocour said. “It’s certainly not to appease the people of New Jersey.”

Patrick Murray, direct or of Monmouth University’s Polling Institute, said the motive for Christ ie to remain on the sidelines in the upcoming court battle may have more to do with not wanting to alienate the gun lobby than fundraising for a possible presidential bid.

“The gun lobby is extremely powerful and he doesn’t want them spending money to try to defeat him,” Murray said. Murray said carrying concealed weapons is “very important in the Midwest, in the early primary states, much more so than assault weapons bans.” He theorized it would be a lot more likely to see the Christie administration interceding in the defense of assault weapon bans than the state’s carrying permit law.

“It’s not so much he’s courting these voters, as he doesn’t want to have them actively going after him,” Murray said. “Because of the governor’s political ambitions, it’s hard not to read a political motive into these choices being made.”

The MAY issue is BullShip!
The lawsuit is to challane that NJ NEVER issues and violates out constitutional rights to defend ourselves outside of our home..... NJ2AS is one of the Plaintiffs in this landmark case. Christi, being a true politician wiped the blood off his hands here to appease the Right and NOT have the NRA spend millions to sink his fat assie!

[muggsy]

Christie is a RINO and anti-gun. No Christie, no way.

[Bill K]

That's great news Glock23!

It's weird here in Connecticut [Unless it has changed from when I first got my "permit".]... In one town you might have to get 3 character reference letters for the Selectman (women) to approve or not and then in the next town over it's shall issue.

I get to PA a bunch of times a year and on my first attempt to get a non-resident permit the count Sheriff would not issue one to me. I've since been able to get the PA permit from several different county Sheriffs.

If Christie is the Republican nominee for President I'll sit out the vote for President or go for a third party canidate. I will not cast a vote for the least of two evils.

[berettabone]

Now, the next step, is to get 50 state reciprocity, and change the may issue, or shall issue, to, you have to issue......................

[Bob T]

It's official! The Illinois State Police have officially begun accepting applications for concealed carry licenses!

As of 4:36pm central time today, my application has been submitted and, with any luck, I'll legally be able to exercise my 2nd amendment right in public within the next 90 days.

My wife and I have everything we need to apply except the electronic fingerprints. Hope to get that done in the next week or two.

To be honest, we may not carry initially, if ever, due to the liability issues and the mish-mash of details in the law that need to be worked out, but I am going to get a license on principle. I've supported this fight, so I will add my name to rolls and my $150 to the stay coffers.

Bob

[Glock23]

My wife and I have everything we need to apply except the electronic fingerprints. Hope to get that done in the next week or two.

To be honest, we may not carry initially, if ever, due to the liability issues and the mish-mash of details in the law that need to be worked out, but I am going to get a license on principle. I've supported this fight, so I will add my name to rolls and my $150 to the stay coffers.

Bob

FYI, fingerprints are optional. If you submit prints, the ISP has 90 days to issue your license. Without prints they have 120. So if you're not planning on carrying right away, save the $50-60 each for the prints and let the ISP take their time.

[Bob T]

FYI, fingerprints are optional. If you submit prints, the ISP has 90 days to issue your license. Without prints they have 120. So if you're not planning on carrying right away, save the $50-60 each for the prints and let the ISP take their time.

Did not know that...I'll probably do the prints anyway, but that is good to know.
Thanks!:)