Squeaky trigger. This normal?

[bigwalt2990]

Finally got my new CM9 home. Out of the box, and of course I want to see how smooth this trigger is that everyone is always raving about.

It squeaks. So I field stripped it, and I can see what's hanging up. I think.

At the very top of the mag well, on the right hand side where the trigger connects to that S shaped piece of flat metal, which rides against the frame. I can see what looks like a small wire that's holding that assembly in place?? We'll those two pieces of steel riding against each other is what's making the noise, I can even feel the vibration in the trigger. (If I can manage to get a picture of it, I'll post it, it's pretty tight in there..)

Is this normal? Will it wear in after the break-in period?

When the gun is assembled, the entire slide assembly will wiggle 1/16" of an inch left or right on the polymer too. Did I get a lemon or something?

[zamboni]

That wiggle is normal...it will not be there when gun is loaded. I can't check my cm9 right now, but I believe I remember maybe a little squeak in my trigger as well. It is either normal, or not an issue as my cm9 shoots flawlessly.

[Bawanna]

I'd try a little grease on that trigger bar or take a stone or fine sand paper and polish it up a little bit. That will cure the squeak.

It's easier to access if you remove the sideplate but do that very carefully and don't over tighten the screw.

It should wear in and cure itself given a little time.

[bigwalt2990]

excellent, that's the word I needed to know. Thanks.

I'll have to get a syringe or something to get oil right where I want it? This big Hoppes bottles is tough to aim.

This gives me an excuse to buy a polishing wheel too...

I'm still interested to hear if everyone else's triggers are squeaking too..because I've never ever heard of this problem in a review. And I hate to think I'm the most OCD person on the internet..

[bigwalt2990]

...and I dont know what to think about these imperfections in the Stainless. Theres a couple spots that look like something dripped on it and stained it. You can only see it in the right light.

I bought a new guy expecting it to be pretty...I already have functional pistols. If I wanted imperfections I would have bought used.

[berettabone]

It may not make you feel any better, but you really can't expect(or at least I wouldn't) a pristine firearm for under $400. They are what they are. In the case of your firearm, I don't think you could have gotten a used one much cheaper. If it really bothers you, and you got it locally, maybe they could help you out.

[bigwalt2990]

as long as it shoots right?...

[berettabone]

Well, yes, but if you are not happy, by all means you should see what can be done, so you're satisfied. Isn't that the name of the game?

[muggsy]

There's an old saying Walt. "If you look for a problem you're going to find one." How long do you think it will take you to cause an imperfection in the gun if you carry it daily? If you look at anything in the right light you'll find slight imperfections. We don't live in a perfect world. There was only one man who was perfect and they hung him on a cross.

[garyb]

Yes, I'm a bit surprised you would even ask if this is normal. When Jocko started working for Kahr, he was aware ammo is so expensive, so he had Kahr build in a trigger squeak to substitute for the 1st warning shot. He had originally planned to use a squawk, but stated that most guys will ignore it thinking it may be the wife calling. The new trigger squeak technology is perfectly normal and free as a standard feature from Kahr.

[gb6491]

...and I dont know what to think about these imperfections in the Stainless. Theres a couple spots that look like something dripped on it and stained it. You can only see it in the right light.

I bought a new guy expecting it to be pretty...I already have functional pistols. If I wanted imperfections I would have bought used.
Without seeing it, it's hard to give any advice as to what the "imperfections" in the finish might be, but on the chance it's not something that would require refinishing to correct, try wiping the slide with acetone (or something similar) followed by a wipe down with your lubricant of choice (even a shot of WD40 and wipe might clear it up).
Regards,
Greg

[berettabone]

Yes, I'm a bit surprised you would even ask if this is normal. When Jocko started working for Kahr, he was aware ammo is so expensive, so he had Kahr build in a trigger squeak to substitute for the 1st warning shot. He had originally planned to use a squawk, but stated that most guys will ignore it thinking it may be the wife calling. The new trigger squeak technology is perfectly normal and free as a standard feature from Kahr.
He used to use a sheep, but it wouldn't always cooperate.

[jocko]

as long as it shoots right?...

not say this is normal.The magazine should not come into contact with that trigge rbar spring. Do what the members here ask of u,a shot of grease in that area and alittle polish on the RS of the magazine where it is making contact should help. Also,if this is happening with a empty magazine, then with a full magazine, things do change. So do the kahr prepp on the gun and then take the fokker out d shoot it like u stole it.I would bet after the 200 round breakin this will dissappear. If not drop kahr an email ad tellthem twhat u are seeing and u think itcold be magazine related causing it.

A dab of grease where that little pring rides under thgat trigger bar will do wonders.

[Hunter991]

yes, they squeak. Both of mine do. My cw way more than my cm. But it never caused any issue in shooting.

[bigwalt2990]

Sarcastic or not lol...

The magazine doesnt touch the trigger bar at all. Im having this problem with the frame empty. Theres some paper-clip looking spring thats riding/rubbing/vibrating (dont get excited) against it.

Again thanks to everyone. Ill grease it, but Im thinking a dry lube like graphite might work better..

[jocko]

well then the squeek is in the trigger bar and where thgat little spring is riding on the bottom of it. Not sure u can get to it easily but u could saqnd that little area with fine paper. Must be a slight burr there, but I will agree with you that some type of ease or graphite lube on that little spring part will soon smooth that area out. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[CJB]

That slide oughta wiggle like a liberal arts co-ed eatin' her third dessert in the cafeteria.

As far as squeakin' I've never heard a liberal arts co-ed squeak, but sometimes they squeal. Kahr triggers generally don't squeak or squeal either.

[muggsy]

Sarcastic or not lol...

The magazine doesnt touch the trigger bar at all. Im having this problem with the frame empty. Theres some paper-clip looking spring thats riding/rubbing/vibrating (dont get excited) against it.

Again thanks to everyone. Ill grease it, but Im thinking a dry lube like graphite might work better..

Give it a shot, bigwalt. It can't hurt. By the way you passed the sarcasm test, so well come aboard. We like a new member with a sense of humor.

[JMI]

Something you might want to try. On the unloaded firearm, with the slide back or not, as you prefer, pull the trigger all the way to the rear. On the top front of the trigger you will see the coils of the trigger spring where they are wrapped around the trigger pivot pin. A very small drop of oil will eliminate the squeak that can develop there.

Don't ask me how I know.

Jim

[muggsy]

I've never been able to hear the squeak over the noise of the BANG! Wear ear protection and the squeak goes away. :)

[getsome]

Good squeak control juice and general gun medicine.... http://www.protectparts.com
Doesn't work on wives though, nothing does

[jocko]

I really think lubricant in that area where that little spring is runing under that trigger bar will solve the squeeky trigger thing and in time any burrs which evidently are there, will soon be gone. No doubt in shooting the gun u will never notice the squeeky trgger either, I would not say just live with it, as lubricant will cure it. Just sayin

[sas PM9]

Finally got my new CM9 home. Out of the box, and of course I want to see how smooth this trigger is that everyone is always raving about.

It squeaks. So I field stripped it, and I can see what's hanging up. I think.

At the very top of the mag well, on the right hand side where the trigger connects to that S shaped piece of flat metal, which rides against the frame. I can see what looks like a small wire that's holding that assembly in place?? We'll those two pieces of steel riding against each other is what's making the noise, I can even feel the vibration in the trigger. (If I can manage to get a picture of it, I'll post it, it's pretty tight in there..)

Is this normal? Will it wear in after the break-in period?

When the gun is assembled, the entire slide assembly will wiggle 1/16" of an inch left or right on the polymer too. Did I get a lemon or something?

BW:

Well, I must say that my PM9 does not do that but my brand new this week CM9 does. The trigger bar must have a rough edge from manufacturing and when it passes through the spring it vibrates/shutters/scratches and the noise makes my teeth hurt.
I'm going to take the access panel off and try to smooth that rough edge.

Also I was noticing that the front frame rails are very sharp and almost serrated feeling, very unlike my PM9 smooth, smooth, smooth. I suppose that less attention to metal finishing is the cost of buying a CM vs. a PM.
Oh well, $200 is $200.

-steve

[jocko]

If u can get to that by removing that side panel, indeed go for it. I don't think hahr cuts corners on the parts ur referring toon the cm version. They don't make that front rail part, nor do the make that trigger bar. Bein both fit the same gun cm or PM version, more than likely u just got a ruff gun. Most cm series are just as smooth as the PM series. Its been awhile since I have had my side panel off, and I was not sure one could get to that trigger gar area where that little springhy makes contact...