Calderon urges Congress to ban assault weapons

[AFVet]

Boy do I love this from Mexican President Felipe Calderon (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sc-dc-mexico-summit-20100520,0,156409.story). He can't clean up his horribly corrupt nation so we have to curtail our Constitutional right to bear arms with an assault weapon ban.

Hey Felipe, screw! Clean up your own damn mess and hands off my Constitutional rights.

[kahrseye]

The gall of this Mexican leader asking Congress to tighten up our gun laws. The Mexican drug lords will buy guns from anywhere they can, they certainly have the money to get them. When is he going to stop the drug lords? Then he was complaining about the Arizona immigration laws. Screw him. This is the United States, I applaud Arizona for doing what the Federal Gov won't. We know Obama doesn't have the nuts to put him in his place, maybe a Republican Congress will. If the Republicans gain control of the Congress and don't do something about the illegals and our border we are doomed.

[jfrey]

Calderon needs to shut his hypocritical mouth and take his knappy rear back to Mexico and stay there. He has absolutely no say in what we do in this country. And the democrats clapping for him ----- well what do we expect. Vote em all out.

[at_liberty]

Maybe we could ask Calderon to ban children, so there won't be so many illegal Mexican immigrants in the US.

[AFVet]

Just remember, folks. There's no such thing as a pro gun Democrat. They'll cave just like the pro life Democrats on Obamacare.

[Little Dragon]

Our Nation is our Nation and if any Mexican thinks that they can take it back without force they have another thing coming, we had to bleed to get it, and I'll bleed to keep it. We all know that they are too big of wimps to fight for their country so they come here to push us all over, well "Dont tread on me!" is applicable in this situation!! Just try and push this American over!

[border bandit32]

mmmmmm wonder what would have happened if Bush had visited Mexico and told them how the cow ate the cabbage.....he would have been run out of Mexico......unbelievable this is going on in our congress.....I live on the Border of Mexico and am ready for the coming **** storm from Mexico.....get ready!!



GO BACK TO MEXICO YOU S O B !!!!!

[jmstallard]

Our Nation is our Nation and if any Mexican thinks that they can take it back without force they have another thing coming, we had to bleed to get it, and I'll bleed to keep it. We all know that they are too big of wimps to fight for their country so they come here to push us all over, well "Dont tread on me!" is applicable in this situation!! Just try and push this American over!

Say what you want, but they ARE taking it back, and quite easily in fact.

YouTube - Aztlan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LINtLZF__c)

[at_liberty]

Just remember, folks. There's no such thing as a pro gun Democrat. They'll cave just like the pro life Democrats on Obamacare.

Party choice is sometimes pragmatic. First, you have to get elected. In fairness, there are more Democrats rated pro gun in the House than there used to be, and they vote accordingly. They need to be valued in hopes they will multiply.

Any stereotypes on what Democrats are like and how they will vote are far more applicable in the Senate, currently a bunch of snakes, not one of them rated progun to my knowledge.

Finally, it is not true that a progun rights person is a conservative by any definition, nor is it true that all Republicans are conservative. In fact, there are secular conservatives who have no concern for church matters at all except to keep them out of government and government-supported affairs. Party affiliation does not necessarily define ones position on abortion, race, or even gun ownership and associated rights to carry them. It really has more to do with socialism versus people who want to keep more of their own money.

[kahrseye]

Party choice is sometimes pragmatic. First, you have to get elected. In fairness, there are more Democrats rated pro gun in the House than there used to be, and they vote accordingly. They need to be valued in hopes they will multiply.

Any stereotypes on what Democrats are like and how they will vote are far more applicable in the Senate, currently a bunch of snakes, not one of them rated progun to my knowledge.

Finally, it is not true that a progun rights person is a conservative by any definition, nor is it true that all Republicans are conservative. In fact, there are secular conservatives who have no concern for church matters at all except to keep them out of government and government-supported affairs. Party affiliation does not necessarily define ones position on abortion, race, or even gun ownership and associated rights to carry them. It really has more to do with socialism versus people who want to keep more of their own money.

You're right about party affiliation not being a guarantee of conservatism, however we don't have much choice. Look at what the current party in power is doing and we can only hope that a change in leadership will change the course of our nation. Political correctness rules the day....instead of common sense. What is wrong with racial profiling if a certain race is committing the crime? If for example bombings were being committed by red headed people in 5 different locations and it was proven only red headed people were involved, why would we look at blonde or black hair people? Doesn't make any sense..... If a child is born to a person that is in this country illegally, why would anyone think that the child is somehow legal? Doesn't make any sense.... How can you insure 30 million more people and it not cost any more money? How can you expect to not get less services or benefits by insuring those 30 million people? Doesn't make sense.... If people expect the government to take care of them, instead of taking care of themselves what is to become of the greatest country on earth? :mad:

[at_liberty]

You're right about party affiliation not being a guarantee of conservatism, however we don't have much choice. Look at what the current party in power is doing and we can only hope that a change in leadership will change the course of our nation. Political correctness rules the day....instead of common sense. What is wrong with racial profiling if a certain race is committing the crime? If for example bombings were being committed by red headed people in 5 different locations and it was proven only red headed people were involved, why would we look at blonde or black hair people? Doesn't make any sense..... If a child is born to a person that is in this country illegally, why would anyone think that the child is somehow legal? Doesn't make any sense.... How can you insure 30 million more people and it not cost any more money? How can you expect to not get less services or benefits by insuring those 30 million people? Doesn't make sense.... If people expect the government to take care of them, instead of taking care of themselves what is to become of the greatest country on earth? :mad:

We always have a choice. We can work to increase the number of Democrats who keep faith with the Constitution and the 2nd and 14th Amendments in particular. I think you will find that when polled, even gun owners don't place gun rights as their top political priority...not really. First you have to get past issues like abortion, schools for the kidlets, and taxes. You also are confronted with racial segments like black voters being Democrats in the high 90s percentile. Guess what party is likely to benefit most if waves of Mexicans suddenly become eligible to vote.

[AFVet]

I hear people say all the time that their Congressman is pro life or pro gun so party affiliation doesn't matter.

I submit that these people don't understand how Congress works. The people who decide what's in a bill or what bills get voted on are the leadership. Your individual politician doesn't mean a hill of beans. It's Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid that determine what's going to happen in Congress. A vote for a Democrat is a vote to empower them.

The far left-wing runs the Democratic Congress and until the leadership changes, any vote for a Democrat is a vote against gun rights. You can delude yourself if you like, but that's how it is.

[at_liberty]

I hear people say all the time that their Congressman is pro life or pro gun so party affiliation doesn't matter.

I submit that these people don't understand how Congress works. The people who decide what's in a bill or what bills get voted on are the leadership. Your individual politician doesn't mean a hill of beans. It's Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid that determine what's going to happen in Congress. A vote for a Democrat is a vote to empower them.

The far left-wing runs the Democratic Congress and until the leadership changes, any vote for a Democrat is a vote against gun rights. You can delude yourself if you like, but that's how it is.

That polarity of party principles has shifted before and could shift again. The South used to be Democratic and is now overwhelmingly Republican. Wonder why?

[AFVet]

Party polarity won't shift until you punish the current ones.

[kahrseye]

Party polarity won't shift until you punish the current ones.

I agree, the only way to pull the left wingers back to the center is to take control of the House and Senate. Only then can reason start to take hold once again. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.:behindsofa:

[Frankhenrylee]

Don't forget, instead of illegal aliens they are now "undocumented workers". This country is no longer ran by the government it is ran by the people that pay off our government officials. I'm sure the dems found a way to get that dirty rat bastard of a president a little kick back for acting like our guns are ruining his country. Revolution my friends is the only way and most people are to soft for that now days. We are stuck with it until people start getting what they've got coming to them.

[kahrseye]

We always have a choice. We can work to increase the number of Democrats who keep faith with the Constitution and the 2nd and 14th Amendments in particular. I think you will find that when polled, even gun owners don't place gun rights as their top political priority...not really. First you have to get past issues like abortion, schools for the kidlets, and taxes. You also are confronted with racial segments like black voters being Democrats in the high 90s percentile. Guess what party is likely to benefit most if waves of Mexicans suddenly become eligible to vote.

Sorry after watching the Healthcare debacle, I saw Democratic Party Leadership in action. Despite every poll taken, which showed the American public firmly against the Healthcare bill, the leadership strong armed and bought their colleagues votes. I wouldn't trust the Democratic party of Socialists to do anything that I consider right for this country.:19:

[skychief12]

Party polarity won't shift until you punish the current ones.
AFVet, You've got that right! I say, term limits all around.

[at_liberty]

AFVet, You've got that right! I say, term limits all around.

Voters can impose term limits at any time. All that would do is protect voters from their own collective ignorance and indifference. I am not really looking to dump out the Senators who effectively hold all this together or at least try. That is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Our concern should be who votes and how much they really know.

It is actually hard to know the quality of a candidate. I doubt if most people pay close enough attention for any really valid evaluation. We should be more concerned about dealing with the ignorance.

[Bawanna]

Voters can impose term limits at any time. All that would do is protect voters from their own collective ignorance and indifference. I am not really looking to dump out the Senators who effectively hold all this together or at least try. That is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Our concern should be who votes and how much they really know.

It is actually hard to know the quality of a candidate. I doubt if most people pay close enough attention for any really valid evaluation. We should be more concerned about dealing with the ignorance.

Sadly you can only really learn about a candidate, even those of us who try via the media, or the internet rumor mill anymore. Ignorance begets ignorance. The current administration is a prime example of the media information system. Absolutely nothing done right, total disrespect for our country and they are suggesting give him more time. They wanted to impeach Bush everytime he blew his nose with the wrong hand, go figure. Im out of here, can't handle these politcal discussions but when the revolution begins know that I'll be there.

[jocko]

Boy do I love this from Mexican President Felipe Calderon (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sc-dc-mexico-summit-20100520,0,156409.story). He can't clean up his horribly corrupt nation so we have to curtail our Constitutional right to bear arms with an assault weapon ban.

Hey Felipe, screw! Clean up your own damn mess and hands off my Constitutional rights.

to say scr-w calderon in Spanish, but I am sure if we keep letting those illegals come here, I will have to learn the languarge. Yes I heard that speech and it took big "balls" to . I am sure it went over big with the people from arizona to. Wonder how mexico is going to boycott arizona, probably instead of smuggling 100#'s of coke a week over into our borders he will cut back to 50#. yeah that will show those arizonians they can't mess with the mexicans and calderon. What an a-s.

[jocko]

Say what you want, but they ARE taking it back, and quite easily in fact.

YouTube - Aztlan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LINtLZF__c)

if kagan doesnt' getin for supreme court justice that Obama is going to ask calderon to take her place:D:D:D:D

really doesn't matter if he is not a citizen, we all know that.:laser:

[Bawanna]

to say scr-w calderon in Spanish, but I am sure if we keep letting those illegals come here, I will have to learn the languarge. Yes I heard that speech and it took big "balls" to . I am sure it went over big with the people from arizona to. Wonder how mexico is going to boycott arizona, probably instead of smuggling 100#'s of coke a week over into our borders he will cut back to 50#. yeah that will show those arizonians they can't mess with the mexicans and calderon. What an a-s.

Maybe if we learn spanish we can say scr-w the United Nations in a language maybe they will understand also. Doubtful but worth a shot.

[wyntrout]

I can see the new Immigration Policy: each "immigrant" over 15 issued a driver's license, Social Security Card, registered voter card(Democrat already marked), one of those Government "foodstamp" debit cards, Medicaid Card, and a voucher for housing. I'm sure that I left out a few things.
Wynn:(

[AFVet]

Chinga is the Spanish F word. I took 4 years of Spanish in high school. :-)

[Bawanna]

Chinga is the Spanish F word. I took 4 years of Spanish in high school. :-)

They drive Fords in mexico? That should be punishment enough. Just kiddin but couldn't pass it up.

I say Chinga Calderon and the UN, and Obama too! Was that a black helicopter that just flew over????????

[jlottmc]

I however live in a border state...I can cuss him in his language, mine and a few others. Pinche Bendeho...