Well that was quick

[JchWSU86]

Well, I finally got a chance to prep my Cm9 using the steps that someone was kind enough to point me to.

Before the sun went down, I figured I would spend a few rounds to see what this little guy can do.

First 6 rounds were flawless. Yes! This gun feels great. Before heading back inside, my buddy wanted to give it a shot.

It was getting dark and he recently moved onto his new property so he didn't want to make too much noise. We loaded up another magazine and let him give it a go.

First round good. Second round, FTF. Checked the primer, no striker mark. I ejected the mag, reinserted the round followed by the magazine, and re-chambered(using the slide lock). Click. Nothing.

Went to eject the round and nothing came out, the round never chambered. We tried it again and it fired fine.

Now I'm not really worried about that experience, as I am no where close to completing the break in period. I provided the background to hopefully receive some insight on this:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn274/Unforgiv3n2/B071ADB0-4B93-45AE-9BDD-1B52FFE4E28A.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/Unforgiv3n2/media/B071ADB0-4B93-45AE-9BDD-1B52FFE4E28A.jpg.html)

As you can imagine I was super excited to see this when I got home to inspect it. :P

-P.S. Sorry for the sloppy writing, dealing with a grumpy new born. :D

[JchWSU86]

Oh, and for clarification purposes, is the next round supposed to look like this? This picture was taken after chambering a round and ejecting the mag.(these were not the rounds I was firing, I was firing UMC FMJ)

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn274/Unforgiv3n2/0DB65FD4-C6E8-4DA5-B211-F39EDD3F99BA.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/Unforgiv3n2/media/0DB65FD4-C6E8-4DA5-B211-F39EDD3F99BA.jpg.html)

[Bawanna]

Well send an email to Kahr, you need a new follower. The second photo is pretty normal, all autos drag the second round forward a bit. You might take some fine sandpaper and clean up the feed lips a bit.

If you bust another follower you can send it back for a ramp fix or decide if you want to do it yourself. The ramp is hitting the follower.

Some break one and then never again, others bust them again and need a doctor visit.

[crazyjz]

My CM9 also broke the followers. I didnt realize it until it was time to clean the gun and mags up after the shooting session was over.
The gun functioned perfectly all day with nearly 100 rds fired, except for a few premature slide lock issues.

If you have more than one mag, rotate them. If the gun breaks another follower you may as well prepare yourself to send your gun back to Kahr. Seems like the litmus test for sending out new followers or sending the gun back is how many followers got broke. One broken follower, they'll probably send you one. The minute I told them that mine broke two followers, conversation over, send the gun in.

Mine also would prematurely lock the slide back from time to time. If it were not for needing that slight adjustment, I think I would have trimmed up the feed ramp myself.

AT any rate, if mine comes back and it still breaks followers, I think I will take care of it myself.

[JchWSU86]

Thanks for the info guys. I stripped the gun and mocked up the barrel to the frame with the slide lock and can definitely see that it his the follower. It seems like it hits quite a bit. I'll get a hold of kahr and go from there.

I do not currently have another magazine. A shop down the street has some 7 round mags in stock, I'll pick one up tomorrow.

Would you consider it okay to use this mag at the range? I plan on going some time this week.

[Bawanna]

Usually they work even broken, and maybe they work even better since there's nothing for the feed ramp to smack so for range no problem but I'd get a new one and make sure your good to go.

Let Kahr decide. That fix should be relatively quick and easy, so the wait shouldn't be terribly long.

[Schriscoe]

My CM9 also broke the followers. I didnt realize it until it was time to clean the gun and mags up after the shooting session was over.
The gun functioned perfectly all day with nearly 100 rds fired, except for a few premature slide lock issues.

If you have more than one mag, rotate them. If the gun breaks another follower you may as well prepare yourself to send your gun back to Kahr. Seems like the litmus test for sending out new followers or sending the gun back is how many followers got broke. One broken follower, they'll probably send you one. The minute I told them that mine broke two followers, conversation over, send the gun in.

Mine also would prematurely lock the slide back from time to time. If it were not for needing that slight adjustment, I think I would have trimmed up the feed ramp myself.

AT any rate, if mine comes back and it still breaks followers, I think I will take care of it myself.


So my story includes premature slide lock but only with 124+p gold dots and 147 WWB JHP. 115 FMJ and zombie max as well as 135 critical duty ran fine. I'm gonna carry with critical duty.

And after my range session tonight I came home to see a broken follower on one of my mags. Guess I'll be calling Kahr tomorrow. I really like this little gun but the damn thing sure is finicky.

[MBSL500]

This shouldn't happen....period.
Kahr is most certainly aware of this and shouldn't let another
gun out their door until they are absolutely certain this won't happen again.
Sure they can fix it, but they should'nt need to.

[dorangolv]

This shouldn't happen....period.
Kahr is most certainly aware of this and shouldn't let another
gun out their door until they are absolutely certain this won't happen again.
Sure they can fix it, but they should'nt need to.

Hey MB, what year is your SL500?
Love those things.Took one up to 153 M.P.H. before the electronic speed limiting took over and dropped the engine back down to idle speed. Once I got back down to about 100, I got the throttle back.:eek:
As a mechanic at the MB dealership I got to test drive a few cars including an S600 Bi-Turbo V-12.:D

[crazyjz]

My CM9 worked (past tense) great w the broken followers. I did not know they were broken until later when I was cleaning them. The problem is that the broken followers indicate a slight clearance problem. These little pistols are VERY tight. The tolerances are minimal. This is usually indicative of high quality.

The guns are high quality, their companies quality control is not. They simply fail to do the same tests that we do when our followers break. The few minutes it would take to assemble the parts to see if the feed ramp will hit the follower would be well spent. On the other hand, when you're selling guns as fast as you can make them w/o spending that time/money on that level of quality control why not get them out there and get the money. They are not the only company that made that decision/mistake. There are recalls in every line of products. In the long run, down the road when things calm down a bit, this decision will come back to bite them.

In the meantime, once my repaired CM9 gets back from the factory, I will feel well armed w a very nice weapon. Now that I know to expect the possible need to return the gun to the factory for tweaking, I am not quite so critical. I had a Seecamp years ago that was built like a swiss watch. This gun reminds me of it. Very smooth, very tight and shoots great!

[Schriscoe]

My CM9 worked (past tense) great w the broken followers. I did not know they were broken until later when I was cleaning them. The problem is that the broken followers indicate a slight clearance problem. These little pistols are VERY tight. The tolerances are minimal. This is usually indicative of high quality.

The guns are high quality, their companies quality control is not. They simply fail to do the same tests that we do when our followers break. The few minutes it would take to assemble the parts to see if the feed ramp will hit the follower would be well spent. On the other hand, when you're selling guns as fast as you can make them w/o spending that time/money on that level of quality control why not get them out there and get the money. They are not the only company that made that decision/mistake. There are recalls in every line of products. In the long run, down the road when things calm down a bit, this decision will come back to bite them.

In the meantime, once my repaired CM9 gets back from the factory, I will feel well armed w a very nice weapon. Now that I know to expect the possible need to return the gun to the factory for tweaking, I am not quite so critical. I had a Seecamp years ago that was built like a swiss watch. This gun reminds me of it. Very smooth, very tight and shoots great!


I already am waiting on my xds to come back from Springfield. I really don't want to have to send this one back. Any of you guys done the fix yourself with a Dremel? I've seen it from other threads.

[crazyjz]

For me personally, I would not hesitate to take on the feed ramp modification if after due consideration, that's what I decided to do. Just be sure to realize that once you do it, you more than likely will have voided any sort of warranty on that part of the gun. The liklihood of having another, different sort of warranty covered barrel problem is pretty slim, which is why I was willing to do it.

The problem I ran into is that the factory was unwilling to send me replacements for the two broken followers. They wanted the gun. Either I send them the gun or buy the two new followers. I decided to take the path of least resistance and send them the gun. I have quite a few others around here to shoot and carry so I will not have to go unarmed while it is gone.

The down side of the whole thing is that I have been unable to scratch the itch that this new gun purchase was causing! Sort of like somebody driving over your new bicycle before you get to ride it!

My suggestion to you would be to send it in the first time, get it on record that the factory modified the feedramp. If it ever needs any additional tweaking, you can probably get away with doing it yourself without fear of voiding any warranties.

Up to you, either way, you're going to have some level of disappointment.

[S281]

This is becoming a ridiculous problem. I can't believe that Kahr is letting this go on, it has become a well known issue across all the gun forums and tarnishing their reputation. They really need to look into this ASAP before their name is synonymous with junk guns that don't work

[JchWSU86]

This shouldn't happen....period.
Kahr is most certainly aware of this and shouldn't let another
gun out their door until they are absolutely certain this won't happen again.
Sure they can fix it, but they should'nt need to.


This is becoming a ridiculous problem. I can't believe that Kahr is letting this go on, it has become a well known issue across all the gun forums and tarnishing their reputation. They really need to look into this ASAP before their name is synonymous with junk guns that don't work

I agree. I have always looked at kahr as a higher end company. I am a borderline Glock fan boy, but the reviews I read, and some of the similarities attracted me to this gun.

Two days after I bought the CM9 I found out glock had announced their G42 (.380 auto, sub compact single stack). Fairly similar in size (a bit bigger) to the CM9.

I am willing to let the Kahr break in, and am okay with sending it in to be repaired(shouldn't need to, but if thats what I have to do, its what I have to do).

But at first taste, it is hard to say I chose the right gun.

All in all I prefer the idea of the kahr, but only time will tell

[muggsy]

Close specs are one thing. Being out of spec is another. Kahr definitely needs to clean up it's act as far as test firing and inspection is concerned. You build a reputation for reliability by producing a reliable product. Far too many Kahr pistol owners are experiencing problems with their Kahr Pistols.

[JimC]

This is becoming a ridiculous problem. I can't believe that Kahr is letting this go on, it has become a well known issue across all the gun forums and tarnishing their reputation. They really need to look into this ASAP before their name is synonymous with junk guns that don't work

Well said but they choose not to do anything about it.

[JchWSU86]

Well said but they choose not to do anything about it.

I hope that changes, the friend that was with me was considering a Kahr, got excited once he saw how small the recoil was, enjoyed the first shot, then jammed on him.

We weren't too concerened since I have gotten through the break in period, but seeing that a part of the gun BROKE in 8 shots is dissapointing.

[MBSL500]

Sending it back to be repaired so you can "shoot it like to stole it" is not the answer.
Fixing the problem so customers don't NEED to send it back is the answer.

Please, don't respond with "I have shot 5 gazillion trouble free rounds though my Kahr".
"Just send it them and they'll make it right".

They need to make it right the first time.

[downtownv]

Hey MB, what year is your SL500?
Love those things.Took one up to 153 M.P.H. before the electronic speed limiting took over and dropped the engine back down to idle speed. Once I got back down to about 100, I got the throttle back.:eek:
As a mechanic at the MB dealership I got to test drive a few cars including an S600 Bi-Turbo V-12.:D
I got my wife a 560sl 1989 that lil biotech hit 165! sold it now has a 2007 too small for me but perfect for her and her pocketbook as she like to tell me.....

[crazyjz]

I am not a book keeper for Kahr. I have no inside information. What I do have is a finite set of circumstances that historically have proven to be the calm before the storm for many companies. Consider the following information that I consider factual.

-Kahr firearms are for sale at a severely reduced rate at many sites on the internet
-Kahr is becoming known across the industry as producing guns that often require being returned due to malfunctions
-Call Kahr Custumer Service, when you can reach them, you will likely reach the one guy who seems to be in charge of the entire department
-As per Kahr Admin., there is only one person at the factory responsible for shipping and receiving
-Kahr is spending more money than they make on the guns that are returned, that number is growing all the time

My guess is that unless they continue to pump guns out the door, whether they work or not, they cannot continue to march. I hope I am wrong since I think with a bit more time, Kahr could make a few changes and turn the corner, continuing to make quality firearms.

Just my opinion but I have seen these earmarks before and it was never good.

[JchWSU86]

Oh, and for clarification purposes, is the next round supposed to look like this? This picture was taken after chambering a round and ejecting the mag.(these were not the rounds I was firing, I was firing UMC FMJ)

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn274/Unforgiv3n2/0DB65FD4-C6E8-4DA5-B211-F39EDD3F99BA.jpg (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/Unforgiv3n2/media/0DB65FD4-C6E8-4DA5-B211-F39EDD3F99BA.jpg.html)

Last night I picked up a 7 round mag from a local shop, and it doesn't do this. It feels much better all around. The rounds go in smoother, the lips of the mag dont seem to catch the round and it only moves the next round a fraction forward in comparison to this stock 6 round mag.

I sent an email to Kahr yesterday, but have not heard back yet. I will call them today.

[crazyjz]

If you had allowed the mag to stay in the gun, the top round in the picture could not have traveled that far forward. My guess is just as was shown in a previous picture, that round was drug forward somewhat while it was in the gun and moved even a bit more forward during the mag drop.

While I would be the last one to defend the design of Kahr magazines, and all of mine seem to drag that next round forward a bit, it normally does not affect the function of the gun. That is, unless you are shooting some really short, fat bullets that could slightly engage the front corner of the slide stop causing premature slide lock issues.

Disregard what you know of how bullets feed in other gun magazines. None of my Colt's, Glock's or Sig's drag that next bullet forward like the Kahr does. The good new's is that, at least in my CM9, it does not seem to matter other than the slide stop issue I mentioned.

If you are having failures/jams, it may be a contributory factor but in my opinion, is not the primary cause.

[JchWSU86]

If you had allowed the mag to stay in the gun, the top round in the picture could not have traveled that far forward. My guess is just as was shown in a previous picture, that round was drug forward somewhat while it was in the gun and moved even a bit more forward during the mag drop.

While I would be the last one to defend the design of Kahr magazines, and all of mine seem to drag that next round forward a bit, it normally does not affect the function of the gun. That is, unless you are shooting some really short, fat bullets that could slightly engage the front corner of the slide stop causing premature slide lock issues.

Disregard what you know of how bullets feed in other gun magazines. None of my Colt's, Glock's or Sig's drag that next bullet forward like the Kahr does. The good new's is that, at least in my CM9, it does not seem to matter other than the slide stop issue I mentioned.

If you are having failures/jams, it may be a contributory factor but in my opinion, is not the primary cause.

Good to know. In my case, i did this because I was loading in 6+1 and it prevented the mag from dropping.

The 7 round did move forward, just a bit but not even comparable to the picture you see here. and was able to drop without resistance. This was using the same rounds.

Only time will tell. I will be going to the range to break in sometime this weekend, as I don't want any excuses from Kahr, if I have to send the gun back in.

[Tilos]

Last night I picked up a 7 round mag from a local shop, and it doesn't do this. It feels much better all around. The rounds go in smoother, the lips of the mag dont seem to catch the round and it only moves the next round a fraction forward in comparison to this stock 6 round mag.

I sent an email to Kahr yesterday, but have not heard back yet. I will call them today.
Polishing the mag lips has become the norm for metal mags, and for me, the follower mods that fixes the common feeding/racking hickups.
If the mods don't work, a follower is not a lot of money to replace, but this has never been my experience.
Try it, try something, have someone else do it, or play phone tag with Kahr, your choice.
jmo

[crazyjz]

I have two 7 rd mags and both of them work great. I prefer them for long range sessions since they allow me to get one more finger on the gun.

I read through this entire forum at least twice before I purchased my CM9. (Makes you wonder if I'm some sort of masochist huh?) I completely went through all 4 of my mags, pretty much doing what everybody suggested to avoid issues.

I buffed out the feed lip edges, I took a dremel to the cutout for the mag release button. (I eliminated the square edge on the inside of the mag, making it more difficult for anything to get caught on it.) I buffed the inside of the mag to a mirror finish and the right side of the follower was relieved slightly and then also buffed.

Had it not been for the feed ramp breaking my followers, I think I would have been one of the few people who got a really good gun right from the factory. At any rate, we'll see how it goes once I get it back.

By the way, I did not do the "feed ramp modification". I was prepared to do it if I had a reason to but my my pistol fed perfectly except for the premature slide lock issue a few times. I attribute those issues w the ammo I was shooting. I could easily choose to shoot a more tapered round that quite likely would have eliminated that issue. As it is, Kahr is supposed to be relieving the inside front edge of the slide lock so that does not happen anymore.

[Tilos]

I have two 7 rd mags and both of them work great. I prefer them for long range sessions since they allow me to get one more finger on the gun.

I read through this entire forum at least twice before I purchased my CM9. (Makes you wonder if I'm some sort of masochist huh?) I completely went through all 4 of my mags, pretty much doing what everybody suggested to avoid issues.

I buffed out the feed lip edges, I took a dremel to the cutout for the mag release button. (I eliminated the square edge on the inside of the mag, making it more difficult for anything to get caught on it.) I buffed the inside of the mag to a mirror finish and the right side of the follower was relieved slightly and then also buffed.

Had it not been for the feed ramp breaking my followers, I think I would have been one of the few people who got a really good gun right from the factory. At any rate, we'll see how it goes once I get it back.

By the way, I did not do the "feed ramp modification". I was prepared to do it if I had a reason to but my my pistol fed perfectly except for the premature slide lock issue a few times. I attribute those issues w the ammo I was shooting. I could easily choose to shoot a more tapered round that quite likely would have eliminated that issue. As it is, Kahr is supposed to be relieving the inside front edge of the slide lock so that does not happen anymore.

nevermind...

[MBSL500]

Maybe I'm missing something.
It seems that a Kahr buyer has two choices if he wants to be absolutely certain his new gun will function properly.

(A) He can buy the gun and just send it back to Kahr for repair.
or
(B) He can polish the feed ramp to help with feeding issues, remove some of the feed ramp to prevent breaking followers, and polish the lips of all the magazines.

Is this a kit gun?

Sorry folks.
The only thing a person should have to do a brand new gun is clean it and lubricate it.

[Schriscoe]

Maybe I'm missing something.
It seems that a Kahr buyer has two choices if he wants to be absolutely certain his new gun will function properly.

(A) He can buy the gun and just send it back to Kahr for repair.
or
(B) He can polish the feed ramp to help with feeding issues, remove some of the feed ramp to prevent breaking followers, and polish the lips of all the magazines.

Is this a kit gun?

Sorry folks.
The only thing a person should have to do a brand new gun is clean it and lubricate it.

Well said.

I really like how the Kahr handles, shoots and carries. I just want to ensure its reliable. Period.

[jocko]

and most all kahrs will do that to. This is a kahr forum so ur gonna see issues here first. Most owners dont post when their guns are working perfect. Most kahr owners don't even know about this forum or really give a nats ass about a kahrforum.

Some of the tings here are merely helpful tips that might save a person some time sending it back if he feels like alittle TLC. Otherwse, that is what one has a warranty for.

Question( A ) surely ur not referring to buying a new gun and not even shooting it to see what goes, but just buy it and then send it in???? That wold be strange indeed.

Lets see I had one of the first Ruger lcp, they recalled 50K of them, do to drop safe issues. Have a G19 truly my best shooter, had to go back once. My P380 went back once, My utter 3 big kahrs have been flawless. No one wants to get a bad gun, no matter who makes it, but it happens.

I won't go into how many times I sent my 3kel teks back...

[MBSL500]

If they are still sending guns out the door that may need magazine lips polished, feed ramps polished and material removed from feed ramps in order to function correctly, then they have piss-poor quality control.
The fact that you had problems with your Keltec is of no consequence to those who buy a new Kahr expecting it to function perfectly right out of the box.

[Gringo Pistolero]

Maybe I'm missing something.
It seems that a Kahr buyer has two choices if he wants to be absolutely certain his new gun will function properly.

(A) He can buy the gun and just send it back to Kahr for repair.
or
(B) He can polish the feed ramp to help with feeding issues, remove some of the feed ramp to prevent breaking followers, and polish the lips of all the magazines.

Is this a kit gun?

Sorry folks.
The only thing a person should have to do a brand new gun is clean it and lubricate it.

It is easy to get the wrong impression of almost any firearm by relying on internet forums for your information. As Jocko said, buyers are more likely to search for a forum and vent about negative experiences or look for solutions than they are to post their positive experiences. Kahr produces a lot of handguns, and the majority of buyers have never logged on here at Kahrtalk.

I'm the proud owner of 3 Kahrs now - a CW9, CW45 and a CW380. All three have been just fine from the very first outing with no special prep work.

Clean, Lube, Shoot, Repeat.

Chuck

[muggsy]

There is no excuse for poor quality control or for a company failing to respond to a customers request for service. To quote our esteemed president, "Period".

[MBSL500]

There is no excuse for poor quality control or for a company failing to respond to a customers request for service. To quote our esteemed president, "Period".


It shouldn't matter in the slightest that Kahr will make it "right" after you send it back to them.
They need to make it right the first time so customers don't have to.
The PM9 / CM9 is are not new products.
Kahr is most certainly aware of this problem.
They've had plenty of time to correct it.

[crazyjz]

I had admired a CM9 at a gun show but did not think to highly of the price the guy was asking. I liked it enough to make a mental note to check out the "unknown to me" Kahr CM9 on the computer.

Came to this forum and read everything I could find about the CM9. After reading page after page of negatives regarding the CM and PM9, I had just about decided to abandon the idea. Just about that time I ran across the post letting readers know that Palmetto State Armory had CM9's for $339.

I thought, geez, for that kind of money, it's worth the gamble, sort of a 50-50 shot that I would get a good one right out of the box.

I lost the gamble and my CM9 is at the factory as I write this. I had it less than one whole day.

This forum and the people who post here are important to those who own Kahr pistols but perhaps even more important to those folks who are considering buying one!

PS--All the features that I found attractive about the gun when I saw it at the gunshow still impress me. I sincerely hope that when the gun is returned to me, it will be good to go. If this is the case, it will still have been worth it!

[JchWSU86]

I got a chance to go to the range last night, put about 250 rounds through it. Besides that fact that I shoot a little low and left, the gun fired great. I had one round nose dive about halfway through. I am pretty sure it was my fault as the shot felt very limp wristed.

The 6 round mag with the broken follower functioned fine, the 7 round mag has obvious wear on the follower.

Sounds like there maybe some issues with the feed ramp.

[dorangolv]

Took my daughter with me out to the desert to shoot my shotgun and semi-autos. She'd been asking me for a couple weeks when we could go. First she shoots and Springfield Armory XD45 then the Kahr P45.
(Skip ahead to 1:32 for the Kahr P45.)

The two malfunctions were caused by the users. The first one is a Failure To Chamber a round. Then the guide rod works it's way out the front of the slide during the course of three shots fired. This is because the spring was installed backwards. duh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twahP-20x1c

Within minutes of reassembling the slide (correctly this time) I filmed this string of shots. 4 mags;2-6rd, 2-7rd all emptied.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLWi7R_5og

To date, 1,450 rounds fired through this Little Monster.

Most of you know how much trouble I had trying to get it to run and cycle without SOME kind of malfunction. Lots of scraping, grinding and hitches throughout the slides travel. All kinds of resistance to smooth operation. Sent it back to Kahr who said they fired 280 rds without a hitch.
I have since found the root cause of all my headaches and corrected it.
http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=21904

It is a totally different gun now. It has turned into the reliable, smooth gun everyone says Kahrs are supposed to be. It just took me 900 rounds and hours of tinkering to make it so.

[CJB]

Wow, Abby must have a really good lookin Mom!

[feedramp]

"The only thing a person should have to do a brand new gun is clean it and lubricate it".

I would tend to agree... especially when it's bragging rights are ... :Amflag2: :Amflag2::Amflag2:

[MBSL500]

"The only thing a person should have to do a brand new gun is clean it and lubricate it".

I would tend to agree... especially when it's bragging rights are ... :Amflag2: :Amflag2::Amflag2:

Absolutely true.
Polishing feed ramps, polishing magazine lips, grinding down feed ramps, tweaking slide lock springs, sanding followers, verifying magazine spring orientation etc..should never be necessary on a new gun.

[jocko]

can't argue that pint at all. BUT there is sometimes alittle tweek that one can do from information from forums like this one that will work and save alot of time sending a gun back. It is always the owners calla to make, some do choose to tweek somethings themselves if they do no harm to the gun. Verfyihg spring orientation is certainly not a bad thing for any ownber to ever do. Kahr doesn't assemble the magazines etc, they come fully assembled, so why not just be very sure all is ok.

I sur ein heh polished every feed ramp of every semi I have ever owned. I feel I can do a better job even and I feel better after doing it. I have never been an advocate of grinding a feed ramp. most ALL KAHRS DO NOT REQUIRE THIS EITHER BUT WHEN ONE does indeed let the maker do it. These gun, all guns are mass produced so some things although maybe minor can and will slip thru the system. Sometimes I do feel we also have to assume alittle bit of responsibility. Just sayiin.

If in doubt send the fokker back. This froum is full of great ADVICE, one can heed it or ignore it, but most all here are here to help. I had 4 slide stop lever replaced on my Para Carry 9 before it stopped acting up. My G19 slide stop lever worked part ime. It looked perfect but whenI sentit back, they replaced it and I never had anutter issue. Knowing what I know now, I would have replaced it myself and not wasted alot of down time on it. Just sayin

[feedramp]

I was once told by many in the gun world, to never buy a Kimber or any other 1911 with a 3" barrel.

But , after doing my own research, I decied to take the plunge, as I wanted a small and slim carry pisol in .45, and Kimber models fit that role perfectly.
The little Kimber has been flawless from day one.

Bottom line ...... you can't beleive everything you hear.... or read.

Conducting my own research, and disregarding the negative opinions of others is what led me to buy a Kahr CM9 ... :w00t:

[Pkersey2]

I agree with those saying modifications should not be necessary on a new gun. For SURE! I "risked" buying a CM9 two weeks ago because the size and weight are close to perfect. The mag pinches my finger and the lack of slingshot is not good. but other than that I guess I got "a good one". Shoots great so far ( 175 rounds) and carries extremely well in Uncle Mikes ankle holster or in pocket holster. IF it has any problem....it's GONE! But as I said its very good so far. The only prep I did was clean and lube and rack it 200 times.


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[DavidR]

I agree with those saying modifications should not be necessary on a new gun. For SURE! I "risked" buying a CM9 two weeks ago because the size and weight are close to perfect. The mag pinches my finger and the lack of slingshot is not good. but other than that I guess I got "a good one". Shoots great so far ( 175 rounds) and carries extremely well in Uncle Mikes ankle holster or in pocket holster. IF it has any problem....it's GONE! But as I said its very good so far. The only prep I did was clean and lube and rack it 200 times.


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Seems I got a good one too. 265 rounds through mine and it will slingshot with proper technique. If I'm sloppy it may not chamber. Pinches my pinky too so it's back to the range soon to work on my grip.

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