CM9 slide won't go forward / stuck

[root]

http://i.imgur.com/Kxrnhsk.jpg?2

New, never fired CM9. Slide won't go forward. It got stuck like this last night, gave it a little 'love tap' and it went where it was supposed to. Now it's stuck again...

Took the piece apart to clean it up, racked the slide after I was done and this happened. So... Any ideas?

[MBSL500]

Brand new gun right out of the box? Unfired?
I would take it back where I bought and exchange it, or ask for my money back.

[RevRay]

You probably put the slide stop pin back in when it wasn't quite aligned properly. I think that somewhere on here is a sticky with the exact answer to your problem. I'll try to see if I can find it. In the meantime, try putting a magazine back in and try moving the slide forward or backward a little bit to see if you can get the slide stop pin back out. I vaguely remember that has something to do with the solution.

[root]

Brand new gun right out of the box? Unfired?
I would take it back where I bought and exchange it, or ask for my money back.

Not an option, I do not believe they do refunds (as far as I know...). Not going to ask unless other alternatives don't work.


In the meantime, try putting a magazine back in and try moving the slide forward or backward a little bit to see if you can get the slide stop pin back out. I vaguely remember that has something to do with the solution.

I had no luck with that, either.


:(

[RevRay]

Below is a link to a sticky thread about someone with a similar problem. I looked it over and I'm not it's the same as yours, but it might prove helpful. In the meantime, I will keep trying to find the other thread. Don't panic, the problem will get solved ... you just happened to pick Super Bowl Sunday, and people are out and about attending to other things.

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7485

[RevRay]

By the way, have you tried pushing the slide stop pin back out? At some point that is going to probably have to happen.

[RevRay]

Here's something I found on another thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6fOQ7fC8ks
Regards,
Greg

[jocko]

Brand new gun right out of the box? Unfired?
I would take it back where I bought and exchange it, or ask for my money back.

the gun back together improperly. How can u blame the gun for his error.:Amflag2: He definitely hasthe slide lever in front of the barrel lug nstead of through the lug and it will do what he did every time.

Here is what to do. taqke a wooden dowell and on the right side of thegun where the slide lock lever coes through, put it on that pin and then with a hammer hit the dowelland it will back out. that what kahr will do.:Amflag2:

[RevRay]

Finally, the cavalry has arrived.

P.S. ROOT, jocko doesn't always type well ... but trust me ... he knows his stuff.

[root]

Well, I could never get the pin out with the slide stuck so a few taps of the exposed barrel on a wooden work table and it slid back into place.

So I've removed the pin now, take the guiderod and springs off, put them back on, and tried to re-assemly the darn thing... but the holes don't line up. If I line up the frame and slide marks, I can not put the pin through as it's blocked, and it is impossible to slide the slide further beyond that point..

I've watched takedown/reassemble videos on YouTube, including the one made BY Khar, so no idea whats up here. :(

[codegeek]

Those damn lines on the slide and frame don't line up right on my CM9 either. Here's what I do. I push the slide back slightly until I can get the pin started, then I push the slide back while applying pressure on the pin until it slips in.

Good luck with your issue.

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[JMI]

Try this link (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=16751) to remove slide.

The instruction manual that came with my PM9 states that during reassembly push the slide back just far enough to get the pin through the slot in the recoil lug, then line up the witness marks and push the pin the rest of the way.

When all else fails, read the instructions.

Jim

[addictedhealer]

Don't push the slide back until u have the pin started. The lines don't have to match up for the pin just the slide stop area. Once it passes the barrel then work the slide back to match up the lines for it to seat the rest of the way.

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[root]

Alright guys, thanks for the tips.

So the slide was stuck again as I showed in my first picture. Attempting to rack the slide back and forth while pulling/releasing the trigger let the slide finally slide forward to it's original position.

As I stated before, I did originally watch the Kahr produced disassembly/assembly video on YouTube and I wasn't so sure it was me. I again disassembled, removed and readded the guide rod (hands are sore from removing it like 10 times today, haha)... Aside from a few hiccups where the end of the spring stuck out outside of the frame (my fault) it has been put in properly each time.

I once again re-assembled the firearm, properly again after reading, re-reading and watching the video. I racked the slide back and forth four or five times with no issue than it stuck again. Like the times before, it was rackable once or twice before getting stuck (sorry if I did not mention that).

This last time it got stuck in the middle I simply pulled the slide back and let go, and it went back to the forward position.

Since then, I have racked it maybe 20 more times and it hasn't gotten stuck but on a few attempts I feel it want to sort of hang but it doesn't.

I'll just keep on racking the slide for now.

If I do it slowly I can get it to hang in the middle when letting it go. If I rack it normally it seems to not get stuck.



Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?



EDIT: Unsure when I will be able to get to test fire it. Pretty swamped with work and other projects right now. I got the piece to carry, but will continue to carry my tried/true/trusted S&W 45 now... hopefully will have the Khar broken in and trusted before the warm weather comes. :)

[root]

Seems to be kind of fine right now... I'll know more about what I want to do when I get the chance to shoot it. Either I'll send it back to Khar for a look at, sell it and get a Shield or XDS-9 or keep it if performs without error.

Obviously the concern would be the slide not returning forward after firing a round. Since I wanted this to be a new carry pistol option, not being 100% reliable is a deal breaker.

I'll continue to play with it and see how it goes.

[Tilos]

Forget the alignment marks, slightly tip the gun towards you and pull the slide back to align the c notch in the slide with the bump on the pin.
just sayin'

[Cubby]

My witness marks don't line up. I just line up the cut out on the slide!

[root]

Seems to be fine now... I just had to rack the s*** out of it. Must have been getting hung up on something originally.

Still won't be able to test fire it until this weekend at the earliest, but I did successfully cycle 5 magazines worth of rounds through.

Keeping the slide locked back too and continually racking it seems to help loosen her up too. I'll keep it locked back and on my desk while I work today (Don't worry, I telecommute / work in home office ) and rack it more while working.

[Tilos]

Pulling the trigger at the proper time whether removing or installing the slide is a critical step to getting it done right.
It can be confusing at 1st but will become 2nd nature once you've done it correctly a few times.
Newbs (not necessarily you) tend to blame the gun, and anger will cloud their ability to think things thru and learn new methods.
Reading and watching vids, sometimes over and over is the only way to figure some stuff out.
Theres lots of help here, for those willing to listen.
just sayin'

Don't be concerned if you see a lot of slivers of plastic on the frame when you remove the slide after hand racking.
That plastic is not the frame rails (metal inserts are the frame rails) and the slivers shaved by the slide movement can be removed.

[jocko]

shoot the fokker like u stole it.

[root]

Yeah, I think it's all sorted out now and was more a case of being super tight from the factory. I believe I goofed once during reassembly but even after that the issue existed. Just racking it back and forth seems to have helped.

This is my first polymer pistol. Been carrying a mid-to-full sized S&W 45 (all metal) and have an older Ruger pistol that is all metal that I like to plink with. So not new to pistols (though my collection isn't very large), just new to Khar and polymers :)

I think it'll be a fine and reliable weapon. Only time will tell though. I'll lurk the forums and post a range report when I take her out the first time. :)

[Fxstchewy]

I probably racked mine 500 times before the first shot and mine has been fine.