Break in question

[DavidR]

Those of you who rack the slide at home as part of your break in process, do you pull the trigger each time that you rack it?


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[RRP]

You can, but it's not necessary if your goal is merely to exercise the recoil spring and to wear-in mating surfaces.

You can cycle the slide much faster if you don't pull the trigger each time.

[ripley16]

Complete waste of time. Just shoot it.

[340pd]

Either way is fine. Anytime I buy a new semi auto I clean, lube, and rack the slide alone a couple of hundred times. I also load a mag full and let it sit overnight, before I shoot it. (if I can wait, of course). Trigger pulls will smooth the trigger but just racking the slide a bunch takes less than a minute.

[DavidR]

Getting close to picking up a CM9 and just want to do everything possible to avoid problems.


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[muggsy]

If you think that you can duplicate the action of the slide when the gun is fired by hand racking the slide then by all means rack the slide by hand. I'm with Ripley on this one. It's a complete waste of time. Leaving the action locked open is also a waste of time.

[jocko]

can't say I agree with hand racking is a bad or waste of time. Certainly it never duplicaes the BANG thing kbut it certainly does hel the slide kand recoil assembly work itself in bettrer than doin nuttin. To may here have reported it helped. Its never a waste of time IMO

How much time does it take to even hand rack 500 times. mayb e 5 minutes tops??? Just sayin.

[VN Vet]

Yes I am not very young anymore, but hand racking my new P380 is a chore. It takes a good yank and strong grip to get the slide back far enough to lock it back. Oh well, I love my Kahrs non-the-less because they are built so well.

You can curse the Rose Bush because it has thorns, or you can Love the Thorn Bush because it has Roses.

[berettabone]

Complete waste of time. Just shoot it.
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[DavidR]

Here she is, brand new out of the box. I won't be able to go to the range to fire until Thursday evening so I wasted :), or didn't waste :) some time cleaning, lubing and racking the slide 200 times. She's in the safe with the slide locked back, the loaded magazine is in there too. I'll report back after the first outing.

I think this one is a very recent manufacture as my LGS didn't have any three weeks ago. This one came in the cardboard box, not the plastic carrying case and was very wet with grease.

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[muggsy]

can't say I agree with hand racking is a bad or waste of time. Certainly it never duplicaes the BANG thing kbut it certainly does hel the slide kand recoil assembly work itself in bettrer than doin nuttin. To may here have reported it helped. Its never a waste of time IMO

How much time does it take to even hand rack 500 times. mayb e 5 minutes tops??? Just sayin.

Bawanna told me that you had the fastest hand in the Midwest, but I was skeptical. No more. If you can hand rack your PMJ9 500 times in five minutes you've got me beat. Just sayin. :)

[root]

I'm in the same boat. Recently new to Khar, have had my pistol for one week now. Won't be able to make it to the range anytime soon, sadly, by the looks of the weather and snow/ice on the ground...

I've racked the slide well over 500 times at home and the gun isn't so tight anymore. Does it help? I don't know. But it gives me piece of mind. I've also cycled 10+ magazines worth of ammo through it, obviously just chambering them and then ejecting them manually... all have fed without issue.

If anything, it just gives me confidence that the first time I go to the range I'll have minimal (if any) issues as I took the time to do what I could at home to 'break it in'. ;)

[VN Vet]

Kahr Slides have heavy pulls. Why, I don't really know. While repeated pulling the slide back to a full pull and letting it go may not do too much to weaken the springs over a short period of time, but it sure will buildup the muscles in your hands to make them stronger so you think the springs are getting weaker. Either way, it works.

As said above, it gives some people peace of mind. For me and others, it also gives us personal time with our firearms. We get to hold it, feel it, caress it and do all sorts of legal and morally sound things to it without going to the Range.

[hardluk1]

I have 3 kahrs and did no more racking than was needed to take apart to clean and reassemble and to chamber a round. Load it up and shoot it like you stole it.

[SaltyNC]

If you decide to hand rack it, do it without a magazine installed, so it won't lock back every time. You also don't have to let it slam home after each time. I just pushed the slide to the rear and then eased off the pressure to let the slide return. You can then do this very fast, like pumping up a bicycle tire with a hand pump. It will give your hand muscles a real workout. My pistol was noticeably looser and smoother after I racked mine a few hundred times. But, after firing a hundred rounds, it was really sweet. If you can't immediately get to a range, if nothing else it is a good excuse to play with your new gun. ;)

SaltyNC

[DavidR]

Hey Root -
Please forgive my ignorance. When you cycle rounds through, how do you know they chambered correctly?


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[berettabone]

Kahr Slides have heavy pulls. Why, I don't really know. While repeated pulling the slide back to a full pull and letting it go may not do too much to weaken the springs over a short period of time, but it sure will buildup the muscles in your hands to make them stronger so you think the springs are getting weaker. Either way, it works.

As said above, it gives some people peace of mind. For me and others, it also gives us personal time with our firearms. We get to hold it, feel it, caress it and do all sorts of legal and morally sound things to it without going to the Range.
They are tight because they are finely crafted pieces of machinery...screw racking it.............shoot it. Want personal time, go to the johnhttp://kahrtalk.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ripley16]

. I've also cycled 10+ magazines worth of ammo through it, obviously just chambering them and then ejecting them manually... all have fed without issue.



Frankly, that sounds a tad bit dangerous, not to mention the effect that could have on the bullet set-back. Many people limit the number of times a round is loaded into the chamber to a few, as in once or twice. Then loading and unloading 70 or more times is only increasing the odds of a bad thing. i'd use snap caps, not live ammo.


Kahr Slides have heavy pulls. Why, I don't really know.

Because they have a heavy spring, that's why.

[Bill]

Two things... My new P380 has an extremely heavy pull! My wife can't really rack it without huge effort, which is nice. It guarantees that my new P380 remains MY new P380. I did hand rack it a few hundred times and I do think that I could feel it smoothing out a bit. But now after the first hundred rounds she still feels really tight. (the gun:)

And someone mentioned that their new 380 shipped really wet. Mine too. A lot of dirty grease-like coating and apparently test fired at the factory? Which I thought was nice too.

[DavidR]

My new CM9 shipped very wet and dirty greasy.


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[root]

Hey Root -
Please forgive my ignorance. When you cycle rounds through, how do you know they chambered correctly?


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Only in that a round is chambered in the barrel and the slide sits flush.


Frankly, that sounds a tad bit dangerous, not to mention the effect that could have on the bullet set-back. Many people limit the number of times a round is loaded into the chamber to a few, as in once or twice. Then loading and unloading 70 or more times is only increasing the odds of a bad thing. i'd use snap caps, not live ammo.


I'm aware of bullet setback, I used cheap target ammo and rotated them. There was a good post a while back on Reddit that showed how much chambering the -same- round over and over can have on a round, but I took that into consideration. The only danger that I know in doing what I did is the possibility of a accidental discharge, which is why I always pointed the firearm in a safe direction and kept my finger well clear of the trigger.



Back on topic though, I just got back from a buddy's place who lives in the country. Took the Kahr out and put 109 rounds through it, would have put more (I brought 250) but it was getting cold and their was soup cooking inside. Gun functioned flawlessly, it ate everything I put through it and I did two mags of the Hornady rounds I plan to carry and it ate them without effort. No failures, no hiccups. Trigger -does- take some getting used to, and I'm still not used to it yet. I couldn't John Wayne those soda cans like I could with my fullsized Smith 45, but that was to be expected. No gloves, no Talon grips, the gun felt good and didn't jump around too much. It's a snappy little bastard but it's quite manageable. :)

I think I love my new Kahr. :)

I'll report back when I've had the opportunity to put a couple more hundred rounds through it.

EDIT: Updated round count, forgot I was missing 14 of the Hornadys. (Round count may seem odd if you're thinking 7 rounds each time, but I chambered one and added one each time I used it. Buddy only did the six in the magazine each time, hence the uneven number)

[Bang_button]

Those of you who rack the slide at home as part of your break in process, do you pull the trigger each time that you rack it?


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No. I just rack the hell out of it, without a mag in place, of course. And to speed it up, I use a very small dab of valve grinding compound on various surfaces, and make darn sure it's all gone before shooting it. Worked for me.