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dav99000
02-17-2014, 05:08 PM
I've seen posts on different forums advocating yes and no. If yes what type (brand) of lube do you recommend

Bawanna
02-17-2014, 05:45 PM
I leave mine dry. Any lube is a magnet for junk you don't want in there. Wipe it with oil and then wipe it all off.

yqtszhj
02-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Yep, what the Colonel said.

dav99000
02-17-2014, 06:30 PM
Thanks for your input Bawana.

CJB
02-17-2014, 06:42 PM
Well, they used to say run an M16 sorta dry in dusty sandy conditions, but experience has proven that rather wet works better.

The Kahr is not an M16. Experience says - fairly dry is best. I will clean my striker and leave the barest film of lube on it - wiped off with a clean paper towel. The part doesn't take any real load at all on its sliding surfaces, its all about getting that lil' dink up to speed when its realeased. Goo makes that harder.

Bawanna
02-17-2014, 09:12 PM
At Colt school the instructor said if your not throwing hot oil on the guy next to you out of your AR/M16, you need more oil.

He said when they had issues when he was military they'd just take a quart of motor oil and dump it on the bolt assembly and usually right back on track.

This wouldn't make sense to me in a sandbox environment but I'm not really an AR kind of guy anyhow. Don't tell my guys at work that though.

yqtszhj
02-17-2014, 09:29 PM
At Colt school the instructor said if your not throwing hot oil on the guy next to you out of your AR/M16, you need more oil.

He said when they had issues when he was military they'd just take a quart of motor oil and dump it on the bolt assembly and usually right back on track.

This wouldn't make sense to me in a sandbox environment but I'm not really an AR kind of guy anyhow. Don't tell my guys at work that though.

Seems to me there are more pieces in a M1/M1A or other semi-auto's and they're more complex than the AR-15 (to my simple mind anyway) so the AR platform is not a hill for a climber like yourself even with the chair. :cool:

340pd
02-18-2014, 09:13 AM
When cleaning my striker fired guns I spray gun scrubber in the channel to remove any crud and oil that could be in that area. Dry has always turned out the best for me.

muggsy
02-18-2014, 10:14 AM
Nothing works better than nothing on your striker. You can spend your money anyway you wish, but lubricating the striker is not recommended. Clean and dry is all that's necessary.

kevmck1
02-18-2014, 04:02 PM
I spray it clean with non-detergent brake cleaner. Works great and have had no issues.


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jocko
02-18-2014, 05:47 PM
I leave mine dry. Any lube is a magnet for junk you don't want in there. Wipe it with oil and then wipe it all off.

had my striker channel apart onc ein 32K rounds and that was to install the 5# striker spring. I use that clean out hole 100% of the time, I never lube that channel. nor do I or can I wipe the parts with nything as I just don't fokk with that area. iF IT AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT WORKS GOOD FOR ME. aLL THOSE PARTS IN THAT CHANNEL ARE STAINLESS AND i AM PRETTY SURE THAT STRIKER ITSELF IS NICKEL PLATED. tHE LESS i TRY TO TAKE THAT AREA APART, THE LESS i HAVE TO LOOK FOR PARTS ON THE FLOOR. Just sayin

CJB
02-18-2014, 07:39 PM
Jocko , you have outdone yourself yet again!

yqtszhj
02-18-2014, 09:06 PM
tHE LESS i TRY TO TAKE THAT AREA APART, THE LESS i HAVE TO LOOK FOR PARTS ON THE FLOOR. Just sayin

I can relate to that.

DJK11
02-18-2014, 09:46 PM
I lube mine but I fire it weekly then clean it. I don't like dry metal rubbing.

deadeye
02-18-2014, 10:36 PM
At Colt school the instructor said if your not throwing hot oil on the guy next to you out of your AR/M16, you need more oil.

He said when they had issues when he was military they'd just take a quart of motor oil and dump it on the bolt assembly and usually right back on track.

This wouldn't make sense to me in a sandbox environment but I'm not really an AR kind of guy anyhow. Don't tell my guys at work that though.
Most AR's use hot gas impingement to reset the bolt. Tend to cook the oil off the bolt ass'y and they can lock up. Gotta keep 'em wet. I am an AR guy - don't tell Bloomberg.

muggsy
02-19-2014, 07:10 AM
I lube mine but I fire it weekly then clean it. I don't like dry metal rubbing.

After 32,000 thousand rounds Jocko saw no noticeable wear on his striker. That should tell you something. A lot of people worry about things that they need not worry about. If the manufacturer thought that it was necessary to lubricate the striker they would have mentioned it in the owners manual. See page 16. They didn't mention it there either. :)

DJK11
02-19-2014, 07:46 AM
had my striker channel apart onc ein 32K rounds and that was to install the 5# striker spring. I use that clean out hole 100% of the time, I never lube that channel. nor do I or can I wipe the parts with nything as I just don't fokk with that area. iF IT AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT WORKS GOOD FOR ME. aLL THOSE PARTS IN THAT CHANNEL ARE STAINLESS AND i AM PRETTY SURE THAT STRIKER ITSELF IS NICKEL PLATED. tHE LESS i TRY TO TAKE THAT AREA APART, THE LESS i HAVE TO LOOK FOR PARTS ON THE FLOOR. Just sayin

Sorry to disagree. He states he had it apart once in 32k rounds. So how does one inspect the part? Xray vision maybe. It's been a while since I read the Kahr manual. I don't recall it discussing disassembly of the striker. Most likely because they don't want the average person to screw it up. Every time I clean my Kahr pistols I disassemble the slide including the striker and lube it.

RainingAgain
02-26-2014, 04:07 AM
Sorry to disagree. He states he had it apart once in 32k rounds. So how does one inspect the part? Xray vision maybe. It's been a while since I read the Kahr manual. I don't recall it discussing disassembly of the striker. Most likely because they don't want the average person to screw it up. Every time I clean my Kahr pistols I disassemble the slide including the striker and lube it.You make a good point. He may argue he HAS x-ray vision though.:)

I tend to clean my hand guns frequently and most (Glock) have slides that are very much easier to disassemble, therefore, I clean the striker and striker channel with each cleaning. I allow the absolute minimum oil to get on the striker. I don't apply it but let some come off my nearly dry hands.

Given how often I get in there, I could probably use more lube but I don't think it's needed. YMMV

shovelfreek10
05-16-2014, 07:16 PM
After 32,000 thousand rounds Jocko saw no noticeable wear on his striker. That should tell you something. A lot of people worry about things that they need not worry about. If the manufacturer thought that it was necessary to lubricate the striker they would have mentioned it in the owners manual. See page 16. They didn't mention it there either. :)

Wish I say that about my CW45, 600 rounds and wear bottom front and top rear of my striker, polished channel some and scratches from machine marks in channel, lubed with small amount of slip2000. doesn’t seem to be as bad. When gun was new, sprayed channel out with gun scrubber, and back plate had to be removed with hammer and very small tool. filed and polished back plate so removal and installation could be done without using a hammer! It was so tight in the slide it didn’t need the extractor pin to hold in place, ruined a plastic mallet head the first time trying to get the extractor pin to snap into place, now can push into place with thumb till it snaps. but striker still wears from machine marks in slide channel, thought about nickel dry lube, there is still enough machine marks to hold the nickel lube in place. If I had the equipment, I would like to bore out the channel and install a plastic or teflon type liner like on a Glock.

CJB
05-16-2014, 08:52 PM
You make a good point. He may argue he HAS x-ray vision though.:)



Bourbon makes me see right through a lot things but my slide's striker channel ain't one of 'em!