"New" follower being made.

[MBSL500]

I just spoke with someone at Kahr and was told that a new "harder" follower is being made and will available to customers within a few months.
That's good news.

[DavidR]

That is good news. Does that suggest they think the problem is with the magazine follower and not something out of spec in the gun?


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[Bawanna]

Thats the way I read it. I don't think the follower other than needing a little more finish TLC is the issue. Also harder usually means brittle, not always a good thing.

I think it's a feed ramp a tad long myself but just a scientific wild goose guess on my part.

I gotta believe they know what they are doing but sometimes one has to wonder.

[wyntrout]

If you're worried, you could put a little appropriate epoxy on the backside of the front skirt and smooth the outer follower surfaces a bit. Just don't put so much that it causes problems with the spring position or overflows and interferes with the fit in the tube. A little reinforcement is what the followers seem to need.

Wynn:)

[MBSL500]

According to Kahr, the new followers will be far less brittle and will be far less likely to crack.
He also mentioned that between 1/16 and 2/16 of materiel is being removed from the feed ramps when guns are being returned.
If anymore material is removed, the the gun is at risk of mis-feeds.



Thats the way I read it. I don't think the follower other than needing a little more finish TLC is the issue. Also harder usually means brittle, not always a good thing.

I think it's a feed ramp a tad long myself but just a scientific wild goose guess on my part.

I gotta believe they know what they are doing but sometimes one has to wonder.

[Bawanna]

2/16th is 1/8th of an inch, that's the Grand Canyon in gun spec talk. Seriously that's a ton. That only confirms my believe that the feed ramps are too long to start with.

A steel follower would get beat up it the feed ramp is 1/8" too long and beating on it. Course it only gets smacked on the last shot but still not a good thing.

I'm glad they are actively addressing it. I had no doubt they would, just seems like it took awhile to formulate the plan.

[edkato]

As a new CM9 owner, I wondered if this issue is still happening? I pushed another 200 rounds thru my new pistol today...rotating between two magazines...nearly 450 rounds since last night. Followers look okay. Did anyone post pics of damaged followers? Hoping I am not just missing cracks or the problem until my pistol fails to function when needed:confused:. Thanks...

[DavidR]

edkato - I wonder the same thing. I have 400 rounds through my CM9 and the followers look fine. My CM9 was definitely new stock, just recently arrived at my LGS and came in a cardboard box, not the plastic molded carrying case.


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[edkato]

DavidR...same here - cardboard box and supposedly was received at my supply store within the last couple of weeks. Upon inspection I certainly don't see the ramp making contact with follower, nor marks or cracks. Just really really curious...

[Tilos]

"and will be available to customers within a few months"
That sounds like a redesigned of mold cavities to me, as a compound mix/change could be done in minutes, with a slight color change to identify "new" from "old"
Lets not forget we here have done mod's for both function and cracking and helped with the engineering:yo:
The sad part is most of our mods can only be done by removing material, whereas with a mold redesign Kahr can ADD material where needed:D.
jmo

[kerby9mm]

A metal follower with the slide stop tab formed into it would be nice. My Kahr's are the only ones that have plastic ones as far as the semi autos I own.

[hardluk1]

Yea if kahr make s metal follower like many 1911's use and make it work the feed ramp won't come into play. To bad they can't have people train well enough the get the feed ramp specs right to begine with. Its purely hit or miss as it is. I have 3 that have not broke any followers buut I guess they could one day.


Any more you don't have skill people doing the assemble . Just people that put part a in or on part b with no knowledge of the parts and if anything is wrong they may never see it .


Kind of like the "mechanic" that changes only the oil in your car. Not really a mechanic.

[sas PM9]

As a new CM9 owner, I wondered if this issue is still happening? I pushed another 200 rounds thru my new pistol today...rotating between two magazines...nearly 450 rounds since last night. Followers look okay. Did anyone post pics of damaged followers? Hoping I am not just missing cracks or the problem until my pistol fails to function when needed:confused:. Thanks...


E:

Yes, there is a picture of a follower that has been kissed by the feed ramp.
You can see the dent/impression of the feed ramp on the front edge of the follower. I cannot find the picture right now, but a search should bring it up.

HTH.

-steve

[jocko]

A metal follower with the slide stop tab formed into it would be nice. My Kahr's are the only ones that have plastic ones as far as the semi autos I own.

my gocks have polymer followers.

It is not the followers that is the issue. It is the feed ramp that needs to be modded more before it leaves the building. A followers job is merley to produce the round so the slide can load it in the chamber. A follower is not designed nore should it be designed to take a hammering from a fdeed ramp. If the follower was metal u would then stillhave issues, of anutter kind. Wehave a series of busted backos of the magazine awhile back and this was du7e to the feed ramp hammering the followers and the back of the magazine taking the brunt of the force.

I feel we are totaly off base in blaming the magazines and followers. Kahr is gonna get this fixed sooner than later but it is a PITA whenit happens to an owner. Just sayin

[codegeek]

All I know is my Pro Mag magazines were flawless in my CW9. My Kahr magazines? Not so much.

I am excited about this development.

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[muggsy]

The only time that the feed ramp can contact the follower is after the last round in the magazine is fired. If the feed ramp clears the follower by as much as .010 there shouldn't be a follower problem. It shouldn't matter what the follower is made of. Muggsy has pontificated. :)

[Bawanna]

Pontificated? I thought only the Pope could do that and it was easily cured with penicillin?

[Tinman507]

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[jocko]

All I know is my Pro Mag magazines were flawless in my CW9. My Kahr magazines? Not so much.

I am excited about this development.

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case I would stick with your pro mags. But we have read before that Pro Mags don't do well in kahrs. If it works, then don';t fix it. ust shoot the fokker like u stole it.:Amflag2:

[kevmck1]

Mine just broke a follower for the fist time yesterday. Maybe 500-600 rds thru the gun. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/09/u2e2usus.jpg


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[S281]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/09/u2e2usus.jpg




So this is a pic of the new follower.... Solves the problem, I like... LOL

[hardluk1]

Not really , short'n the feed ramp a .10th or so and then the problem is fixed. The plastic follower ain't the problem.