380 "Myths": Featuring the CW380- Video

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

I just finished up a little test I conducted. I have heard online and elsewhere that a 380 is so underpowered, that it has been stopped by a cell phone. No one cited any actual evidence, so I thought I would test it out. Enjoy:

http://youtu.be/ywutb4vaeso



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[AJBert]

I could see a cell phone stopping a .380, if it was one of those bricks back in the '80s. Todays phones wouldn't even stop a .22 short.

[smokersteve]

I've shot a 380 jhp through 2 good sized phone books already.

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

I could see a cell phone stopping a .380, if it was one of those bricks back in the '80s. Todays phones wouldn't even stop a .22 short.


I hear ya on that one, now where to find one of those beasts to test...


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[iflyem1]

Thanks for the vid!

[b4uqzme]

I'm enjoying your vids. Keep 'em coming.

[muggsy]

This cell phone stopped a bullet, believe it or not.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/us/florida-shooting-cell-phone-blocks-bullet/index.html

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

No problem guys. I will definitely keep makin them :)


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[muggsy]

Stranger than fiction. This bible had a Kevlar cover. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/24/bible-stops-two-bullets-to-save-life-ohio-bus-driver-police-say/

[itsthelaw]

Agree...I like the vids!

[Bill K]

Me too, me too... Like the videos so keep them coming.

[muggsy]

I'm not so sure your test was valid. You didn't shoot through the requisite two layers of denim. :) All seriousness aside, I did like your vid.

[berettabone]

I've shot a 380 jhp through 2 good sized phone books already.
I guess all phone books aren't safe.............................http://kahrtalk.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Firewire]

Thank you for taking the time to film and create that demonstration!

[muggsy]

I heard a rumor that a .380 was once stopped by an aluminum beer can. I'd be willing to donate a case of empties for your next video. :)

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Thank you for taking the time to film and create that demonstration!


I'm glad you enjoyed it :)


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[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

I heard a rumor that a .380 was once stopped by an aluminum beer can. I'd be willing to donate a case of empties for your next video. :)


Lol, I am looking for ideas for my next myth to test


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[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Not a Kahr, but here is my latest video for you guys:

http://youtu.be/OCnXM0xT_uo


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[W5JCK]

This cell phone stopped a bullet, believe it or not.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/us/florida-shooting-cell-phone-blocks-bullet/index.html

Looks like it hit the battery, which is the most dense part of the phone.

[W5JCK]

Stranger than fiction. This bible had a Kevlar cover. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/24/bible-stops-two-bullets-to-save-life-ohio-bus-driver-police-say/

When my dad was heading off to war in the Pacific during WWII, his church gave him a New Testament with a quarter-inch steel plate for a front cover. He took a direct hit in the Bible on Luzon from a Japanese machine gun round. The Bible was in his left shirt pocket. The bullet penetrated through the steel plate and the Bible pages but lodged inside the Bible with only about 1/4" sticking out the other side. Dad got a bad bruise, but no penetration from that bullet. Unfortunately though two other bullets hit him in his left hand and upper right thigh. The thigh bullet went completely through his leg, but the doctors were able to save the leg. He lived to fight other battles before coming home after the war.

[kwh]

Thanks to all our WW11 Dad's. We were all glad they came home and started families (us). My Dad was in North Africa ,Sicily, and Italy. No physical injuries but I found out later he spent some time in the V.A.Hospital for what was then called shell shock. Dad passed 7 years ago at age 94.

[smo79]

Keep'em comin

[W5JCK]

Thanks to all our WW11 Dad's. We were all glad they came home and started families (us). My Dad was in North Africa ,Sicily, and Italy. No physical injuries but I found out later he spent some time in the V.A.Hospital for what was then called shell shock. Dad passed 7 years ago at age 94.

Mom said dad wouldn't talk much for the first two years after the war. He never talked much about the war for the rest of his life. Neither did my uncles who served. It was mom's rule to never ask him questions about the war. He died at 65 in 1988. Mom made a comment at the funeral home that will stick with me the rest of my life. She said, "The war is finally over for him." I'm glad the modern soldier lives in an era when we understand that PTSD exists and can be treated in some cases. Most WWII veterans did not have the option of treatment.

[Bill K]

My Dad tried to get overseas but the Army felt he was more valuable as a DI and artillery instructor (don't remember which he did first). Several other uncles served in the Navy and Army Air Corps during WWII. A generation later my brother and I got to serve our country as Marines, me serving one tour in Vietnam and my younger brother two (less two months).

[Pointblank]

Am I the only one who is starting to bail on online vids if they expect me to watch a 30 second commercial first? :mad:

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Am I the only one who is starting to bail on online vids if they expect me to watch a 30 second commercial first? :mad:


You can skip the ads 5 seconds in if you click the little button in the corner.

Ads are here to stay btw, that is, if you want these services to remain "free".


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[Bill K]

Am I the only one who is starting to bail on online vids if they expect me to watch a 30 second commercial first? :mad:

I can appreciate your frustration but not me. I click a link believing the video will be worth my time viewing so I'm not much bothered by a commercial.

A "pay for view" and not feeling it was worth what I paid would bother me much more.

[jocko]

I hate those commercial.ls so if a video pops up and I have to watch that crap first. I just move on. B. S. in my opinion... I am with u Pointblank, which in ur case may not be a good thing to have ol jocko ever agree with anyone either..

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

I can appreciate your frustration but not me. I click a link believing the video will be worth my time viewing so I'm not much bothered by a commercial.



A "pay for view" and not feeling it was worth what I paid would bother me much more.


People just don't get that nothing in life is really free... Know what I'm sayin'.


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[Firewire]

People just don't get that nothing in life is really free... Know what I'm sayin'.


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Yep, it's the evolution of online services. For every 1 who says "no" there's 10 that say "yes" involuntarily. Then you have someone recommend a vid then you watch the ad because you have to because someone recommended the video and you want to see that video but can't without waiting for the ad to finish first. :D

I would much prefer the way it is than pay a subscription for ad free videos.

[100percent]

We make it a policy to kill all the rcoons, ground hogs, skunks and snakes around our farm. I used to carry a 380 but found that it took 3 to several shots to get the job done on a racoon or ground hog. They just sit and look at you even with head shots. Usually with a 40 and it is a one shot deal.

I am not talking about shooting phone books but living animals. It is an eye opening experience.

[muggsy]

Yep, it's the evolution of online services. For every 1 who says "no" there's 10 that say "yes" involuntarily. Then you have someone recommend a vid then you watch the ad because you have to because someone recommended the video and you want to see that video but can't without waiting for the ad to finish first. :D

I would much prefer the way it is than pay a subscription for ad free videos.

+1, If it wasn't for You Tube ads I may never have discovered Viagra. :)

[SlowBurn]

You can skip the ads 5 seconds in if you click the little button in the corner.
+1 Zactly. If you have trouble, get a 9 year old to explain it to you. Thats what grandchildren are for.

[Longitude Zero]

A 380 is better than throwing rocks but not much more so.

[kwh]

We make it a policy to kill all the rcoons, ground hogs, skunks and snakes around our farm. I used to carry a 380 but found that it took 3 to several shots to get the job done on a racoon or ground hog. They just sit and look at you even with head shots. Usually with a 40 and it is a one shot deal.

I am not talking about shooting phone books but living animals. It is an eye opening experience.
What ammo were you using and what length barrel? The newer .380 ammo seems so much better than FMJ's.

[drewski115]

A 380 is better than throwing rocks but not much more so.

Uh huh.....not much more eh?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwCXXpEP50

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Uh huh.....not much more eh?



http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwCXXpEP50


The XTP seems to be the best performing 380 HP out there.


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[Evan]

Good video

[100percent]

Handloads kwh, SWC 105 grain 900-950 fps. From a LCP. The 40 is a 180 gr TC at about the same velocity. My Kahr PM40 is about the same size as a 380.

My wife and I both agreed that the 380 just isn't enough to stop a 200 pounder. Maybe a 40 isn't either, she carries a 9mm with the same swc bullet and 2grains more powder than the 380.

We haven't sold the LC's they run great after 6 years and a couple of updates. Keep them for backup. Can't have too many guns.

When I got my PM 40 used I was looking for a 45 but the 40 is great.

Back OT.

[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Good video


Thanks!


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[kwh]

Handloads kwh, SWC 105 grain 900-950 fps. From a LCP. The 40 is a 180 gr TC at about the same velocity. My Kahr PM40 is about the same size as a 380.

My wife and I both agreed that the 380 just isn't enough to stop a 200 pounder. Maybe a 40 isn't either, she carries a 9mm with the same swc bullet and 2grains more powder than the 380.

We haven't sold the LC's they run great after 6 years and a couple of updates. Keep them for backup. Can't have too many guns.

When I got my PM 40 used I was looking for a 45 but the 40 is great.

Back OT.


Should you ever try the XTP in a short barrel , I think all of us would like some real world feedback on what is supposed to the the best projectile for the LCP. Maybe not on a skunk first, in case performance is not all it is cracked up to be. Groundhog should be informative. Thanks.

[100percent]

Hi KWH
I hate to use the excuse of my heritage (Scottish) but I can be frugal.

A hand cast 40 bullet stuffed in once shot brass is about 5-6 cents for me even in this day and age.

If a box of them (xtp bullets) ends up in my possession either in 9 or 10 mm I will be sure to think of your comments.

[kwh]

Hi KWH
I hate to use the excuse of my heritage (Scottish) but I can be frugal.

A hand cast 40 bullet stuffed in once shot brass is about 5-6 cents for me even in this day and age.

If a box of them (xtp bullets) ends up in my possession either in 9 or 10 mm I will be sure to think of your comments.
I am also Scots that is is why I volunteered you for the field test. I do however have in my possession a small supply of Precision One XTP ammo in .380 caliber, and could donate some to the groundhog cause. I do not know about shipping ammo by UPS however, one individual to another. I am in N.C. With the new CW380 there has been a lot of discussion here of effectiveness of solid vs. HP's in short barrels. Groundhog should provide the answer since his services are no longer needed after the late Spring /long Winter we all are having.

[100percent]

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[Purple Mountain Outdoors]

Should you ever try the XTP in a short barrel , I think all of us would like some real world feedback on what is supposed to the the best projectile for the LCP. Maybe not on a skunk first, in case performance is not all it is cracked up to be. Groundhog should be informative. Thanks.


I plan in documenting a test with the XTP in 380 in the future. However it will be with an inanimate object, perhaps several water jugs?


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