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Sheepdog689
03-23-2014, 06:19 PM
I bought my CM9 for summer/warm weather carry. My usual off duty carry is a Glock 38.

In 38 years on the job I have never had any luck finding a comfortable IWB holster. I read some recommendations here and on Glocktalk about the N82 Tactical Professional series holsters and decided to try one.

https://n82tactical.com/images/uploads/products/_thumb/Pro%20Kahr%20PMCMMK%20RtHand.jpg

I just got back from a week long trip to Florida to handle some family business. I carried my CM9 in the N82 holster on the two day (12 hour a day) drive to Florida from the homestead. Very comfortable, particularly at about the 3:30 position. It sat far enough forward so the grip on the pistol didn't dig into the seat back and it didn't dig into me either. I spent the week in Florida wearing jeans and a T-shirt. I carried the CM9 the whole time in the N82 holster with the T-shirt tucked in behind the clip. One thing I found was that with the suede backing on the holster I could use the clip on the waistband of my jeans and cover it with my belt. It held perfectly and didn't move at all. Other than a slight bulge on the right side of my jeans you couldn't see the holster or pistol. I went into restaurants, stores and walked around downtown and nobody pointed, screamed or called the police.
I drove back home - two more 12 hour driving days, wearing the holster and pistol. It was actually more comfortable than carrying the pistol in a regular OWB holster.


Two thumbs up to N82 Tactical for an outstanding product. I highly recommend this holster to anyone looking for a comfortable IWB carry.

GLOCKROCKER
03-23-2014, 06:38 PM
+1 on the N82 pro. I carry my CM9 in one also at the 3:30 position. Definitely most comfortable IWB I've tried. I have a little extra insulation in the waist area that makes some IWB holsters unbearable.

Bob T
03-23-2014, 07:17 PM
I bought the N82 Pro for my K40 and it is very comfortable, but I am just not happy with the retention system.

If I concentrate, I can get it to release just fine, but even the slightest error in technique and it doesn't come out of the holster. And, if I ever need to use it for real, under pressure, I can't chance that.

All the other holsters I have, for other guns are pull and go. I don't know if I want something that is so different, and so much more difficult to make work.

RRP
03-23-2014, 07:24 PM
I see no reason for a locking retention system on an IWB holster which will always be concealed. It may be comfortable, but it's not practical for my application.

Sheepdog689
03-23-2014, 07:37 PM
I found that I didn't have any problem with the "retention" system. Just gripping the pistol normally puts my strong hand thumb between the pistol and the holster backing. Then a very slight clockwise (for right handers) rotation while drawing and the pistol clears the holster. I can draw just as quickly from this holster as from my Comp-Tac paddle holster and as quickly as my thumb-break OWB holster.

Bob T
03-23-2014, 08:00 PM
I found that I didn't have any problem with the "retention" system. Just gripping the pistol normally puts my strong hand thumb between the pistol and the holster backing. Then a very slight clockwise (for right handers) rotation while drawing and the pistol clears the holster. I can draw just as quickly from this holster as from my Comp-Tac paddle holster and as quickly as my thumb-break OWB holster.

Yes, I get that....But it is the "slight clockwise rotation" that gets me. None of my other holsters require that, so unless I am fully concentrating on doing it, the gun doesn't come out.

I am not saying it is a bad holster, just that it may not be the right holster for me.:)

Baklash
03-23-2014, 08:49 PM
I posted a thread yesterday about choosing a holster, hoping to get a lot of discussion. Didn't get the result I hoped for. Regarding the N82, I did rule it out only because of the "slight clockwise rotation" thing. Still looking.:(

Sheepdog689
03-24-2014, 05:51 PM
Yes, I get that....But it is the "slight clockwise rotation" that gets me. None of my other holsters require that, so unless I am fully concentrating on doing it, the gun doesn't come out.

I am not saying it is a bad holster, just that it may not be the right holster for me.:)

I hear you! We just switched from Safariland Raptor holsters to Safariland 6285 level III holsters at work. It took a full day of drawing and reholstering over and over to get the muscle memory used to the new holster. And that's with the 6285 being less complicated than the Raptor.

Sheepdog689
03-24-2014, 05:55 PM
I posted a thread yesterday about choosing a holster, hoping to get a lot of discussion. Didn't get the result I hoped for. Regarding the N82, I did rule it out only because of the "slight clockwise rotation" thing. Still looking.:(

Something to think about....N82 does make their original style holster that has a fabric/elastic holster with the same backing as the Professional model. It doesn't have the rotation requirement but still has the the padded back portion. They also have the one with the tuckable clip. To me the real secret to the comfort of the holster is the back portion with the suede and neoprene.

https://n82tactical.com/images/uploads/original_new.png
https://n82tactical.com/images/uploads/ORIGINAL_TUCKABLE.png

kwh
03-24-2014, 06:34 PM
I bought the original due to retention/rotational factor of the polypropylene holster. Did not trust my coordination, especially under stress.

Tomorray
03-26-2014, 07:34 AM
Yes, I get that....But it is the "slight clockwise rotation" that gets me. None of my other holsters require that, so unless I am fully concentrating on doing it, the gun doesn't come out.

I am not saying it is a bad holster, just that it may not be the right holster for me.:)

I agree; I've got a N8 Tactical for my M & P 40C and drawing the pistol out does require a bit of a twist. Try as I might, it's not a natural motion but I'm learning to make it so. Plus, I'm getting a feeling that a natural horsehide IWB holster will be a bit narrower and therefore more comfortable.

Captquest
04-27-2014, 06:05 PM
I've found out that IWB carry is not agreeing with me at all. I find any holster that allows the gun to contact my skin becomes unbearable. I get a chafing or irritation from the grip. I think the N82 pro will solve my problem. Nothing but positive reviews on YT, then I met some one that has been wearing one for three years and swears there is nothing more comfortable hands down. I Ordered one.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/concealed-carry-holsters-for-the-highly-sensitive-person-and-everyone-else/

xsailer
04-27-2014, 06:35 PM
I just bought the original and like it a lot. Bought it mainly for CW45 but also bought it for two reasons: it fits several guns not just one and I also didn't like the twist action of the plastic holster. I wore it today and it's a comfy holster. I wasn't sure I'd like it but I do AND the price is reasonable.

Hawkeye911
05-08-2014, 11:34 PM
I have a professional model for my Springfield XDs .45, and love it.

When I got my CM9, I tried it in the same XDs holster on a whim... and it fits very nicely! The barrel and slide are sightly shorter in the CM9, but that makes no difference, and the design differs j-u-s-t enough that the retention does not "kick in" on the Kahr. It sits snugly in the holster, but pulls out without the twist when drawing.

I don't know that anyone would want to order the "wrong" holster on purpose, but I love the "accidental extra" that I now have available!

downtownv
05-09-2014, 03:29 AM
I agree with Bobt original tuckable no problem the Pro retention system in my opinion could easily get you killed.

Sheepdog689
05-09-2014, 09:45 AM
I agree with Bobt original tuckable no problem the Pro retention system in my opinion could easily get you killed.

Having worn a Safariland Raptor holster (Level III retention) every day for the past 15 years, I like retention. I train with mine so I can draw from a retention holster automatically. I agree that a retention holster is problematic if you don't train with it. But it's not the holster's fault if you don't train with the system you carry, it's the operator. Something to think about regarding the Pro system vs the original. How easy is it to re-holster? The Pro is a piece of cake, the original, not so much.

Carry what you want, I just expressed my opinion based on 39 years as an LEO carrying a gun every day. I realize there are a lot more experienced people than me out there, but thought I would share my observations.

Captquest
05-09-2014, 05:22 PM
Well, I've' been wearing my new N82 Pro for my CW 40 one week today, and would like to report on it for those interested.
I'm satisfied beyond expectations. I had heard that it would be too bulky for appendix carry and was prepared to make a change if necessary. But I found it completely comfy for me at the 2 'o clock position I prefer. First thing I noticed was it's a little more bulky and does print a bit more than the other holsters I have. For this reason I might prefer my DeSantis or Blackhawk tuckable if I must tuck in my shirt, but it's fine with a tee hanging over it. I set a slight cant on it initially but found that no cant was much better for me. This slight adjustment keeps the grip closer and lined up with my waist and prints less. When I sit down or drive, I simply tug it up a bit and it pulls my pants waistband up with it and rides higher and very well for driving. It pretty much goes back to a normal position when I stand (or step out). I have literally forgotten it was there many times throughout the day, and that irritated area on my belly is going away. It is most cumbersome and noticeable when driving. On long drives It would be easy to pull out and put it in glove box or console, but not really needed to that much. As for the retention feature, no issue for me. I did several dozen reps using my empty gun and got the hang of it pretty quickly. I do it every day a few times and it's getting easier as it breaks in more. Yep, two thumbs up from me, I love it.

downtownv
05-09-2014, 05:28 PM
Having worn a Safariland Raptor holster (Level III retention) every day for the past 15 years, I like retention. I train with mine so I can draw from a retention holster automatically. I agree that a retention holster is problematic if you don't train with it. But it's not the holster's fault if you don't train with the system you carry, it's the operator. Something to think about regarding the Pro system vs the original. How easy is it to re-holster? The Pro is a piece of cake, the original, not so much.

Carry what you want, I just expressed my opinion based on 39 years as an LEO carrying a gun every day. I realize there are a lot more experienced people than me out there, but thought I would share my observations.


I respect what you're saying sheepdog, I just find it awkward to twist the gun into my body to release it.
Unlike you, when and if i ever have to draw, reholstering will be the least of my problems.....