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muggsy
03-26-2014, 01:15 PM
Worried about the police being ordered to confiscate your firearms? In the most heavily policed cities their are only about 46 police officers per 100K people.
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/law-enforcement-police-department-employee-totals-for-cities.html
b4uqzme
03-26-2014, 01:24 PM
Yeah. But they will probably send all 46 of 'em to my front door. :(
Bawanna
03-26-2014, 01:36 PM
Bingo!
I'm thankful I'm on the West Coast. I figure when this starts (I hope it never does but lots of things have happened in recent times that I never dreamed would happen, a woman president next is just added to the list) it will start on the east coast followed closely by California if not similtaneously.
This is the time to fort up with like minded individuals. Leave the sheep and the liberal supporters outside the wire.
I firmly believe that of the 46 only about 4 or 5 at most will play along.
That figure doesn't include the special Ovomit army or the regular army either. I figure a generous figure on member who would play along in those units would be perhaps 15% at best.
This is why they are making ammo so difficult and expensive to get, all part of the master plan or as I prefer to call it the pathetic loser plan.
Remember controlled breathing and trigger control, see ya at the bunker.
Pointblank
03-26-2014, 02:01 PM
If they start in the hood there won't be many left after the first couple of days or so.
TheTman
03-26-2014, 02:08 PM
I have an open invitation to some of my closest friends that live in the City just down the Interstate a few miles, that if SHTF in their area, they are welcome to come out to the farm and get away from the chaos in the city. They are welcome as long as they bring food, guns, and ammo. I have a swimming pool full of water, and a creek that runs through my property, so water won't be a problem. Will just have to filter and/or boil it before consuming. There are quite a few deer in the area, so we should have a supply of fresh meat. Plus there is an assortment of small game, squirrels and rabbits, and such. I'm probably going to get some chickens again so there would be eggs too. Might get some ducks and turkeys too. Have to see what the farm supply store has in stock. Last time I had chickens, some one stole them all right before Thanksgiving. I suppose that was their Thanksgiving meal that year.
I only extend this offer to like minded people, sorry, but my liberal friends are on their own. As is anyone who voted for Obummer.
JohnR
03-26-2014, 03:03 PM
They won't send any to the hood. If this was about crime prevention they could sidestep the 4th Amendment and sweep up criminals' guns any time they want to.
RevRay
03-26-2014, 04:09 PM
If they start in the hood there won't be many left after the first couple of days or so.
The hood has never, not ever, been their concern.
AJBert
03-26-2014, 08:20 PM
Is this just about city police or does it also include county/parish sheriffs departments plus state police and maybe feds? I couldn't find anything in the data that said anything other than number of LEO's available in each city listed.
muggsy
03-26-2014, 09:20 PM
Is this just about city police or does it also include county/parish sheriffs departments plus state police and maybe feds? I couldn't find anything in the data that said anything other than number of LEO's available in each city listed.
City cops only. You could add in the five branches of the military and they are still badly out numbered. Less than .5 % of the adult population is currently serving in the military. The only way they could beat us is if we give up our guns voluntarily and I don't see that happening.
AJBert
03-27-2014, 05:15 PM
City cops only. You could add in the five branches of the military and they are still badly out numbered. Less than .5 % of the adult population is currently serving in the military. The only way they could beat us is if we give up our guns voluntarily and I don't see that happening.
In a true republic with constitutional law, the Posse Comitatus Act does not allow the military to act as law enforcement.
Dang...I almost got that out with a straight face
AIRret
03-27-2014, 05:42 PM
They will tap the National Guard.
Google the guard units that collected guns during Katrina!
Armybrat
03-27-2014, 09:09 PM
Some states like Texas & Louisiana now have laws that forbid gun confiscation during disaster events.
A direct result of that tyranny example after Katrina.
GunSlingR
03-28-2014, 01:21 AM
Curious, do yall think the police and military would enforce confiscation if so ordered?
Curious, do yall think the police and military would enforce confiscation if so ordered?
Yes, It has already happened in places.
TheTman
03-30-2014, 05:27 PM
Re: GunslingR's question about police and military enforcing gun confiscation. That is going to come down to each individual. Cops can just walk away and say screw this job, while military, if you decline to follow orders, you better have a damned good reason, and I wouldn't count on that to save my bacon. A number of active military personnel have stated that they will not take part in any gun confiscation, orders be damned. Others have no mind of their own, and will follow orders to do whatever they are told to do. Like the guards at the concentration camps, they were only following orders.... That defense didn't help them at Nuremburg very much. I think a lot has to do with the mindset of the command officers, and whether they believe their orders are lawful and constitutional or not.
I remember some of the videos from Katrina, where some of the jackbooted thugs seemed to take great delight in their mission to disarm the population, while others clearly showed their contempt for what they were doing, but were doing it anyway.
JERRY
03-30-2014, 05:45 PM
liberal cities voted for this. conservative cities are not subject to this.
chrish
03-30-2014, 06:42 PM
You've already got people starting to say (publicly and documented by the media) that they will not comply with the latest laws on the books. You have somewhere between 100k and 200k in CN alone already NOT complying. For the record, in that regard, I was wrong. Turns out people do have more conviction than I've given them credit for most of my adult life. I said for years that people would roll over when it came to strict gun laws like what's been happening in a few crazy places. But they haven't. Gives me hope.
Most of the military are not trained to fight, not beyond their few months in basic training anyway. So subtract out the pencil pushers, then the patriots. Not enough left.
DHS army being formed I'm still not sure about. But they won't have the numbers either thankfully, in spite of all the scary crap they are involved with in the news the last few years.
The longer this plays out...the better I feel about it. Seems there might be an awakening brewing and the American spirit rekindled.
GunSlingR
04-10-2014, 11:21 PM
It might be over optimistic or even foolish maybe. But I have to believe that most people (LEO or MILITARY) would not take up arms against fellow citizens. Maybe there could be a poll on here of former/current leo/military on how they would react. I think those in charge know this which is why they haven't tried it on a large scale. If not they just have to look towards Connecticut at those standing up for our rights. I have to think that most would react the same way in other states if confiscation were tried.
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JERRY
04-11-2014, 07:54 AM
unless somebody has already one of the disqualifiers, I will not take their guns.
I also believe that if you can buy a gun you can carry a gun.
if ever there comes an order for a door to door or whatever the tinfoil hat crowd thinks.... regarding confiscating guns, I will not be part of it. im sure there will be a car wreck or a shop lifting somewhere that I will have to respond to. wink smilie doesn't work.
johnh
04-11-2014, 08:21 AM
That is the same sentiment I hear from the local LEOs I talk to. I am sure that is why Homeland Security is getting all the military hardware and ammo. Obama and others of his like know they need a proper "interior ministry" to enforce federal edicts when the local police may not be willing to.
garyb
04-11-2014, 05:19 PM
Sadly, they will make examples of individual gun owners as they collect the guns...using scare tactics and making them media events. Everyone will stand alone. It will be interesting to see just how many will have the guts to stand their ground. Best bet is to plan a place to hide what is not registered for when that time comes....but not in your home. Ammo will be another real problem....which we are beginning to experience already. What ever you hide/bury, be sure you hide the ammo with it.
Rm7pr
04-12-2014, 02:51 PM
Most police departments are too busy with everything else that gets thrown their way to start worrying about confiscating guns. Confiscating guns would take years to happen just in one major California city and no police chief, mayor, or governor would have the stomach to endure the scrutiny that would follow especially if even a very small percentage of confiscations go bad. Plus that would be super expensive because cops don't work for free. Plus storage, plus legal maneuvering that would happen before, during, and afterward. Me, I quite worrying about gun confiscation and zombies a long time ago and boy has it saved me a lot of money (although I'm still stocked up for both). This is just my opinion.
Sent from Southern California using an iPad
AIRret
04-12-2014, 03:08 PM
TOO BUSY!?!?!?!?!
When the "Sh** hits the fan
.things will be different!
TheTman
04-12-2014, 11:48 PM
One nice thing to remember is that the combined deer hunters of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, would make up the largest "Army" in the world, with over to 1 1/2 MILLION, licensed deer hunters. And that is only 3 states.
Then when you add in the hunters in the rest of the states, the number is probably several million. Of course not all of them would stand up to gun confiscation and unconstitutional 2nd Amendment laws, I think enough would that the Govt. is going to think twice about any actions they take in regards to 2nd Amendment issues.
bob98366
04-13-2014, 02:08 PM
Well, I don't have this problem any longer. I sold all of my firearms and ammo.
"Sorry, officer, our great leaders Obama, Reid and Pelosi taught me the errors of my ways, so I don't have any left for you to confiscate. I now only watch MSNBC and read the Huffington Post and the Daily Kos."
chrish
04-13-2014, 02:18 PM
Well, I don't have this problem any longer. I sold all of my firearms and ammo.
"Sorry, officer, our great leaders Obama, Reid and Pelosi taught me the errors of my ways, so I don't have any left for you to confiscate. I now only watch MSNBC and read the Huffington Post and the Daily Kos."
That is too funny. Did the same thing. Donated the proceeds of my sales to Greenpeace and Hilary 2016. I didn't ask for a receipt though, figured I shouldn't claim those donations on taxes as the federal government really needs the funds to even everything up w/ those less fortunate than me. Just my little contribution to help the country.
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