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knkali
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Why we cannot EVER let the gov take our right to bare arms. People just don't get it.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/world/Jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-Ukraine-255652231.html

getsome
04-17-2014, 03:04 PM
Saw that story this morning in the news and couldn't believe I was reading that right.....Wow, that part of the world is a powder keg with the fuse lit and Ovomit is on the news giving a speach about healthcare....Can somebody go dig up Ronald Reagan?????....God help us

muggsy
04-17-2014, 03:18 PM
Don't worry fellas. Hillary and Kerry are on the job. :rolleyes:

Bawanna
04-17-2014, 03:49 PM
Just seen news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with first child. Should be a poster for sterilization.

Seemed related to this subject.

knkali
04-17-2014, 04:24 PM
Just seen news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with first child. Should be a poster for sterilization.

Seemed related to this subject.



OOOOhhhhh Duuuude................

TheTman
04-17-2014, 05:10 PM
I think I'd be a movin on, to Israel.

knkali
04-17-2014, 05:40 PM
I think I'd be a movin on, to Israel.
Curious how Israel handles this.

jocko
04-17-2014, 07:03 PM
Just seen news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with first child. Should be a poster for sterilization.

Seemed related to this subject.

to, and it is odd but my prize RAM was stolen about the time she was knocked up. Just sayin:Amflag2: But she did not have sexual relations with that Ram.

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?:D

jocko
04-17-2014, 07:07 PM
Just seen news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with first child. Should be a poster for sterilization.

Seemed related to this subject.
Well one thing is for certain BUTT UGLY runs in the Clinton family. She is definitely her mutterts daughter. Just sayin.

I heard a blind man married her. Might be rumor:D

I know my totally blind Ram has gone missing some months back.Just sayin

CJB
04-17-2014, 08:05 PM
Odds are a BJ and a turkey baster were involved with this pregnancy. Jus' sayin!

wyntrout
04-18-2014, 12:10 AM
Dang! What does shirt sleeve length have to do with registering jews in the Ukraine?

http://images.gs-cdn.net/static/albums/500_388725.jpg

Sorry... couldn't resist. :rolleyes:

Wynn:D

downtownv
04-18-2014, 04:21 AM
Just seen news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with first child. Should be a poster for sterilization.

Seemed related to this subject.


Who's the sperm donor?:D

AIRret
04-18-2014, 06:39 AM
Why we cannot EVER let the gov take our right to bare arms. People just don't get it.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/world/Jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-Ukraine-255652231.html

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Obviously, so much of what is happening is VERY similar to Nazi Germany
in the 30's, including this disgraceful treatment of the Jews. i.e. Germany's early steps included identifying and then confiscation of Jewish property.

Putin's land grab in the Ukraine is so similar that an idiot could see what's
happening. All Ovamit does/says is that there will be NO military action and that the sanctions will be increased……big deal.
The effect on Russia = renewed national pride, and a serious hit to their stock market. But Putin already has plans for Russia's economy, he's raising energy prices to Europe and He's going to align himself with China's economy.
Below is an article supporting that:

I'll put that article in another post, I'm having problems with my copy/paste feature.

AIRret
04-18-2014, 06:42 AM
Here's the AP article;

BY VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday rejected claims that Russian special forces are fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine, but recognized for the first time that the troops in unmarked uniforms who had overtaken Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula before its annexation by Moscow were Russian soldiers.
Putin expressed hope for a political and diplomatic solution of the worst East-West crisis since the Cold War, saying he hopes that he won't have to send Russian troops into eastern Ukraine, which has been engulfed by violent protests against the new authorities in Kiev. He poured scorn at the West, accusing it of trying to weaken and isolate Russia and made it starkly clear that he doesn't fear further Western sanctions.
Speaking in a televised call-in show with the nation, Putin harshly criticized the West for trying to pull Ukraine into its orbit and said that people in eastern Ukraine have risen against the authorities in Kiev, who ignored their rights and legitimate demands.
A wave of protests, which Ukraine and the West said was organized by Russia and involved Russian special forces, have swept eastern Ukraine over the past weeks, with gunmen seizing government offices and police stations in at least 10 cities.
"It's all nonsense, there are no Russian units, special services or instructors in the east of Ukraine," Putin said.
At the same time, he recognized for the first time that soldiers in unmarked uniforms - dubbed "little green men" - who swept Ukraine's Black Sea region of Crimea laying the ground for its annexation by Moscow last month were Russian troops.
Putin, who previously said the troops were part of local self-defense forces, said the Russian soldiers' presence was necessary to protect the local population from armed radicals and to ensure the holding of a referendum, in which an overwhelming majority of its residents voted for seceding from Ukraine and joining Russia.
But asked on Thursday who the men in unmarked uniforms were, Putin said they were Russian servicemen who "stood behind the back of Crimea's self-defense forces."
"They acted politely, but resolutely and professionally," he said. "There was no other way to hold the referendum in an open, honest and honorable way and allow the people to express their opinion."
He said part of the motives behind the annexation of Crimea was the need to counter what he said was NATO's intention to make Ukraine a member and sharply limit Russia's presence in the Black Sea region.
Putin insisted that protests in the east of Ukraine only involve locals. He denounced the Ukrainian authorities' decision to use the military to uproot the protests in the east as a "grave crime," adding that he told his Western counterparts urging him to help disarm protesters in the east that the Ukrainian government should first pull the army back.
"They are sending tanks, armored personnel carriers and cannons there!" he said. "Have they gone nuts?"
He expressed hope for the success of Thursday's talks in Geneva that bring together the United States, the European Union, Russia and Ukraine for the first time since the Ukrainian crisis erupted.
"I think the start of today's talks is very important, as it's very important now to think together about how to overcome this situation and offer a real dialogue to the people," Putin said.
Russia has demanded that the new government in Kiev, which replaced the ousted pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych who fled to Russia following protests over his decision to spike a pact with the EU in favor of closer ties with Russia, move to transform the country into a loose federation. Ukraine has rejected the demand, but promised to give the regions more powers.
Putin repeated his argument that regions in eastern Ukraine historically had been part of the Russian empire and called Novorossiya before they were handed over to Ukraine by the Bolsheviks in the 1920s.
"God knows why," he said.
But he also seemed to keep the door open for Russia to recognize Ukraine's presidential election set for May 25, softening his previous demand that it must be postponed until the fall and preceded by a referendum on broader powers for the regions. He added that the primary goal is to ensure that people in the east should be offered clear guarantees of the protection of their rights.
Putin maintained a tough stance on the gas price to Ukraine, which Russia has hiked 80 percent since Yanukovych's ouster and warned that Moscow will start requesting advance payments for gas shipped to Ukraine in one month if it fails to reach agreement on settling its debts.
Putin also urged Ukraine to reopen trade and transportation routes into Moldova's separatist province of Trans-Dniester. Russia and the Trans-Dniester authorities say that the Ukrainians have blocked transport routes to the region. Moldova has frozen ties with Trans-Dniester since the 1992 war.
Putin has dodged a question about whether Moscow could accept Trans-Dniester's request for the recognition of its independence.
Facing questions about more Western penalties to follow the first rounds of sanctions over the annexation of Crimea, Putin sought to assuage fears they could cripple Russia's vital energy sector. He said that the EU will be unable to do without Russian natural gas supplies, and it would be hard for the U.S. to hurt Russia by encouraging a drop in oil prices.
"They badly want to bite us, but their opportunities are limited," Putin said.
He also took a video question from National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, whom Russia granted asylum last year. Asked by Snowden about Russia's surveillance programs, Putin said that Russian special services also tap on communications in their fight against terrorism, but don't do it on such a massive scale as the U.S.
He said that Russia will further develop ties with China, a natural ally which he said is set to become the world's No. 1 economic power.
While offering scathing criticism of the West, Putin said that Russia hopes that ties will eventually normalize and insisted that Moscow has no intention to draw a new Iron Curtain.
He even tried to infuse a bit of warmth to the chill over Ukraine, picking up a question from a six-year old girl who asked if he thinks President Barack Obama will come to rescue him if he was drowning.
"He's a decent and brave man, he would do it," Putin said.

Putin has nothing but contempt for Ovamit and the USA

JohnR
04-18-2014, 07:10 AM
Odds are a BJ and a turkey baster were involved with this pregnancy. Jus' sayin!
And copious amounts of alcohol.

knkali
04-18-2014, 09:41 AM
Here's the AP article;

BY VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
MOSCOW (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday rejected claims that Russian special forces are fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine, but recognized for the first time that the troops in unmarked uniforms who had overtaken Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula before its annexation by Moscow were Russian soldiers.
Putin expressed hope for a political and diplomatic solution of the worst East-West crisis since the Cold War, saying he hopes that he won't have to send Russian troops into eastern Ukraine, which has been engulfed by violent protests against the new authorities in Kiev. He poured scorn at the West, accusing it of trying to weaken and isolate Russia and made it starkly clear that he doesn't fear further Western sanctions.
Speaking in a televised call-in show with the nation, Putin harshly criticized the West for trying to pull Ukraine into its orbit and said that people in eastern Ukraine have risen against the authorities in Kiev, who ignored their rights and legitimate demands.
A wave of protests, which Ukraine and the West said was organized by Russia and involved Russian special forces, have swept eastern Ukraine over the past weeks, with gunmen seizing government offices and police stations in at least 10 cities.
"It's all nonsense, there are no Russian units, special services or instructors in the east of Ukraine," Putin said.
At the same time, he recognized for the first time that soldiers in unmarked uniforms - dubbed "little green men" - who swept Ukraine's Black Sea region of Crimea laying the ground for its annexation by Moscow last month were Russian troops.
Putin, who previously said the troops were part of local self-defense forces, said the Russian soldiers' presence was necessary to protect the local population from armed radicals and to ensure the holding of a referendum, in which an overwhelming majority of its residents voted for seceding from Ukraine and joining Russia.
But asked on Thursday who the men in unmarked uniforms were, Putin said they were Russian servicemen who "stood behind the back of Crimea's self-defense forces."
"They acted politely, but resolutely and professionally," he said. "There was no other way to hold the referendum in an open, honest and honorable way and allow the people to express their opinion."
He said part of the motives behind the annexation of Crimea was the need to counter what he said was NATO's intention to make Ukraine a member and sharply limit Russia's presence in the Black Sea region.
Putin insisted that protests in the east of Ukraine only involve locals. He denounced the Ukrainian authorities' decision to use the military to uproot the protests in the east as a "grave crime," adding that he told his Western counterparts urging him to help disarm protesters in the east that the Ukrainian government should first pull the army back.
"They are sending tanks, armored personnel carriers and cannons there!" he said. "Have they gone nuts?"
He expressed hope for the success of Thursday's talks in Geneva that bring together the United States, the European Union, Russia and Ukraine for the first time since the Ukrainian crisis erupted.
"I think the start of today's talks is very important, as it's very important now to think together about how to overcome this situation and offer a real dialogue to the people," Putin said.
Russia has demanded that the new government in Kiev, which replaced the ousted pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych who fled to Russia following protests over his decision to spike a pact with the EU in favor of closer ties with Russia, move to transform the country into a loose federation. Ukraine has rejected the demand, but promised to give the regions more powers.
Putin repeated his argument that regions in eastern Ukraine historically had been part of the Russian empire and called Novorossiya before they were handed over to Ukraine by the Bolsheviks in the 1920s.
"God knows why," he said.
But he also seemed to keep the door open for Russia to recognize Ukraine's presidential election set for May 25, softening his previous demand that it must be postponed until the fall and preceded by a referendum on broader powers for the regions. He added that the primary goal is to ensure that people in the east should be offered clear guarantees of the protection of their rights.
Putin maintained a tough stance on the gas price to Ukraine, which Russia has hiked 80 percent since Yanukovych's ouster and warned that Moscow will start requesting advance payments for gas shipped to Ukraine in one month if it fails to reach agreement on settling its debts.
Putin also urged Ukraine to reopen trade and transportation routes into Moldova's separatist province of Trans-Dniester. Russia and the Trans-Dniester authorities say that the Ukrainians have blocked transport routes to the region. Moldova has frozen ties with Trans-Dniester since the 1992 war.
Putin has dodged a question about whether Moscow could accept Trans-Dniester's request for the recognition of its independence.
Facing questions about more Western penalties to follow the first rounds of sanctions over the annexation of Crimea, Putin sought to assuage fears they could cripple Russia's vital energy sector. He said that the EU will be unable to do without Russian natural gas supplies, and it would be hard for the U.S. to hurt Russia by encouraging a drop in oil prices.
"They badly want to bite us, but their opportunities are limited," Putin said.
He also took a video question from National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, whom Russia granted asylum last year. Asked by Snowden about Russia's surveillance programs, Putin said that Russian special services also tap on communications in their fight against terrorism, but don't do it on such a massive scale as the U.S.
He said that Russia will further develop ties with China, a natural ally which he said is set to become the world's No. 1 economic power.
While offering scathing criticism of the West, Putin said that Russia hopes that ties will eventually normalize and insisted that Moscow has no intention to draw a new Iron Curtain.
He even tried to infuse a bit of warmth to the chill over Ukraine, picking up a question from a six-year old girl who asked if he thinks President Barack Obama will come to rescue him if he was drowning.
"He's a decent and brave man, he would do it," Putin said.

Putin has nothing but contempt for Ovamit and the USA
WOW this whole mess is huge. Russia is gonna rise again and Putin will be a hero---while the U.S self destructs.

chrish
04-18-2014, 10:58 AM
Well one thing is for certain BUTT UGLY runs in the Clinton family. She is definitely her mutterts daughter. Just sayin.

I heard a bind man married her. Might be rumor:D

I know my totally blind Ram has gone missing some months back.Just sayin

The blind thing has gotta be a rumor, or irrelevant. Even a blind guy could find and avoid that 'ole Bill nose she's got going on. Gotta just be somebody that likes her. What I can't figure is once he met the parents and heard 'ole Hill's voice scrape across that chalk board why he didn't run like hell. Even if Bill and Hillary gave birth to Kate Upton, I'd run away from that family like a cat with a plastic bag tied to my tail.

Uh-oh, the now I'll have the animal rights people after me. Crap.