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AIRret
04-24-2014, 09:12 PM
Here we go again, but this time it's Texas, and the land owner has a deed for his property and has been paying taxes.

Fox News reports:
Texas Gov. Rick Perry joined his state’s top attorney on Wednesday in blasting the federal Bureau of Land Management over concerns that it may be looking at laying claim to thousands of acres of property in northern Texas.

“The federal government already owns too much land,” Perry told Fox News.

At issue are thousands of acres of land on the Texas side of the Red River, along the border between Texas and Oklahoma. Officials recently have raised concern that the BLM might be looking at claiming 90,000 acres of land as part of the public domain.

On Tuesday, state Attorney General Greg Abbott, who is running to replace Perry, raised the issue in a letter to the BLM director. He also told Breitbart.com he’s ready to “go to the Red River and raise a ‘Come and Take It’ flag to tell the feds to stay out of Texas.”

Abbott reiterated his comments Wednesday night on "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren."

"At a minimum, (the federal government is) overreaching, trying to grab land that belongs to Texans, or worse, they are violating due process rights by just claiming that this land suddenly belongs to the federal government, swiping it away from our Texans," said Abbott, who threatened court action. "This is just the latest symptom of what seems to be a federal government run amok that is messing in states’ rights and now messing in private property rights."

Perry told Fox News he stands with Abbott on this issue.

“It’s not a dare, it’s a promise that we’re going to stand up for private property rights in the state of Texas,” Perry said, calling the federal government “out of control.”

The federal government is currently in a preliminary review phase, and any action on the land would be years away.

The BLM argues that any land in question was long ago determined to be public property anyway.

“The BLM is categorically not expanding Federal holdings along the Red River,” a BLM spokeswoman said in a written statement on Tuesday.

The spokeswoman referred to a 140-acre plot “determined to be public land in 1986” – an apparent reference to a 1986 federal court case. Texas landowner Tommy Henderson lost 140 acres to BLM in that case, and he claims the agency is now using that decision as precedent to pursue more property.

Perry claimed private property would be affected here, and questioned the BLM’s position.

“Is the federal government going to come back in and say, ‘you know what, Mexico used to own the state of Texas so let’s have a conversation of where the rightful ownership of this is’?” he said.

The debate comes on the heels of a tense standoff earlier this month in Nevada, after BLM tried to round up cattle owned by rancher Cliven Bundy – the product of a long-running dispute over unpaid grazing fees. Hundreds of states’ rights supporters, some of them armed, showed up to protest, and BLM back off citing safety concerns.

In the Texas matter, the Supreme Court incorporated the Red River as part of the border with Oklahoma nearly a century ago.

It’s unclear how seriously BLM might be looking at laying claim to additional boundary land.

BLM said it is merely in the “initial stages of developing options for management of public lands,” as part of a “transparent process with several opportunities for public input.”

muggsy
04-24-2014, 09:16 PM
I think that Perry would make a fine president.

kahrnut1
04-24-2014, 09:46 PM
me 2

AIRret
04-24-2014, 10:04 PM
I think that Perry would make a fine president.

You bet!

Armybrat
04-24-2014, 10:22 PM
I'm as conservative as Texans come, but do not like Perry & wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher.
He ignored Texas gun owners' pleas to push open carry, which earned him the disdain of the Texas State Rifle Association (I'm a Life Member).
He has a circle of buddies that suck off the state government teat through favored contracts & the like.
He was a democrat until he stuck his finger in the air like so many other Texas D's did 20-25 years ago and started calling themselves republicans.

Having said all that, and I could say a lot more, he would be a giant improvement over the POS currently infesting the White House, but then again so would Tiny Tim.

As far as the feds grabbing Texas land, a bunch of good ol' boys oughta get their bass boats fired up and tow the Grand Ol' USS Texas up the Red River from Houston, then park if right next to the I-35 bridge coming in from that land-thievin' Oklahoma.

Bygawd and General Sam Houston, those yankee bastiches can just suck on a 14" shell or two.

As that fine Tennessee gentleman Davy Crockett once said, "Y'all can go to Hell and I'm goin' to Texas".

http://www.wellandcanal.ca/shiparc/warships/texas/texas.jpg

knkali
04-25-2014, 09:11 AM
"Having said all that, and I could say a lot more, he would be a giant improvement over the POS currently infesting the White House, but then again so would Tiny Tim."


that says it all

rjt123
04-25-2014, 10:15 AM
I'm not too worried about this. If you think the Bundy thing in Nevada was a big deal, you have no idea of the response that would ensue in Texas if the BLM actually tried to steal privately deeded land. Especially on the scale they're talking about. That there is the kind of thing that starts rebellions. Seriously.

And if Obozo and his posse of assclowns don't realize this, well... It's gonna get ugly.

Longitude Zero
04-25-2014, 01:10 PM
Armybrat Obviously you need to educate your shocking lack of knowledge about land law and what the circumstances are. Calling OK land thieving is showing a vast ignorance of the facts and reality. Please educate yourself before blowing off steam again.


Let me start in your education it is the BLM trying to take the land.

AIRret
04-25-2014, 02:16 PM
I'm not too worried about this. If you think the Bundy thing in Nevada was a big deal, you have no idea of the response that would ensue in Texas if the BLM actually tried to steal privately deeded land. Especially on the scale they're talking about. That there is the kind of thing that starts rebellions. Seriously.

And if Obozo and his posse of assclowns don't realize this, well... It's gonna get ugly.

Oh yes, that sounds like "TEXAS". Most Texan's understand what America
was/is ment to be, unlike TOOOOOO many other so called Americans.

There's a reason that there has been a disproportionately large number of
Texan's in Special Forces, the patriotism and pride in that State is palpable.

I've been reading a book by Walter Prescott Webb called "Texas Rangers"
A century of frontier defense, originally published in 1935.
I'm only about 33% of the way through and those guys seem like an early version on the Navy Seals.

I'm not saying that there are not Great Americans in all 50 States. I'm just saying that Texas seems to have more than their share and that they have never been shy about standing up for themselves.

Longitude Zero
04-25-2014, 02:49 PM
As a native Texan I am proud of my states heritage but it has also produced some of the biggest idiots and buffoons in history also, Anne Richards for instance. It is also the state where the much vaunted Texas Rangers were stood down by the OK National Guard because of a bridge dispute. Recently Texas was given the heave ho over trying to usurp water from OK because TX legislators were too short sighted to plan for the future decades ago.


I hope they prevail against the BLM in the current dispute as it involve riparian water and land law that is very arcane and very difficult to understand.

AIRret
04-25-2014, 03:45 PM
As a native Texan I am proud of my states heritage but it has also produced some of the biggest idiots and buffoons in history also, Anne Richards for instance. It is also the state where the much vaunted Texas Rangers were stood down by the OK National Guard because of a bridge dispute. Recently Texas was given the heave ho over trying to usurp water from OK because TX legislators were too short sighted to plan for the future decades ago.


I hope they prevail against the BLM in the current dispute as it involve riparian water and land law that is very arcane and very difficult to understand.

Lawyers love laws that are hard to understand. When disputes are questionable it means they can twist them, and that means there's more money to be made…….

It is unique when legal boundaries change when the course of a river changes.

I'm sure Texas has made its' share of mistakes, but in general it's spirit is admirable.

AND,,, at least at the "Texas Ranger" museum in Waco they weren't shy about
including the good and the bad about the rangers history. That was impressive.
For example, fairly early on when they quickly increased the number of rangers they ended up hiring a few bad apples and those guys really abused their authority.

Until this past winter I didn't know about the tough battle over water rights (past and present), and it sounds like it will do nothing but get worse!

Living in Michigan and being surrounded by the Great Lakes we don't often deal
with those kinds of problems.

Armybrat
04-25-2014, 03:45 PM
Armybrat Obviously you need to educate your shocking lack of knowledge about land law and what the circumstances are. Calling OK land thieving is showing a vast ignorance of the facts and reality. Please educate yourself before blowing off steam again.


Let me start in your education it is the BLM trying to take the land.

Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Greer County!. :p

Two things I'll give you... Anne Richards and the dumb Texas lawyers. :o

But I do know where the term "Sooner" comes from. :p

knkali
04-25-2014, 11:04 PM
easy boys......... we are all on the same side here