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wyntrout
06-06-2010, 10:12 AM
Just got a flier from Gander... front page: Ruger LCP $299.99 and extra mags $29.99.
I almost got one of these during the 11-month wait for my P380. Now I'm considering one for trips to the navy bases where a random check for things like this could prevent me from losing a much more valuable Kahr.
Gun show prices and regular Gander prices are north of $349.99... usually closer to $380!
Wynn

rglbegl
06-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Buds has had them at $299 since they came out.


They take your guns at Navy bases?

jlottmc
06-06-2010, 12:38 PM
Or any other base, you'd be lucky to stay out of jail, much less be able to come back if caught. Of course I remember a time when I used to have my 1911 in my truck, it never got discovered, and we were searching EVERYONE. This was right after 9/11 even. It can be done, but the risk is very real.

wyntrout
06-06-2010, 02:32 PM
Buds has had them at $299 since they came out.


They take your guns at Navy bases?

At buds, you'd have to pay for using your credit card, shipping costs, AND pay a dealer to receive it. 7% tax is cheaper... AND quicker.:D

And lastly, only if they catch you with one. I haven't seen any random searches since I've been here. I saw quite a few when I was active duty.
I'm ashamed to say, having been checked several times, there were times when I was amazed that they didn't arrest me for DUI. A few decades ago, you were kind of encouraged to drink and have fun... and drive home... more like 3 or 4 decades ago, though. Anyone remember "Stag Bars" on bases??
Dining In's and/or Dining Outs(with spouses) were drunkfests for a lot of us. I don't think that I ever did a "carrier landing", but some did. Imagine a liter carafe of wine every yard or so on the long tables with a lot of it "going to waste"... I had a duty to prevent that... or it seemed! We all got a cigar for after the meal, too.
Wynn:blushing:

wyntrout
06-06-2010, 02:36 PM
Dang, I have to quit. The weather is affecting my DSL and I barely got the last post out.
I'm surprised that my connection stayed up as long as it did... iffy now.
Yeah, I may nap during the movie, too.:D
Wynn

rglbegl
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Buds is free shipping, and with a money order there are no CC costs.
My dealer ads $10 to the price, so for me it is WAY cheaper than the 1 gun store we have locally. (My Kahr CW was $399+$10+$25reg at buds, and $575+$25reg at my local store)

So do you carry a gun on base?
It sounds like it isn't even worth it to have a gun there.
What takes you on base? Your job? Or do they have the best fishing hole?

Bawanna
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
At buds, you'd have to pay for using your credit card, shipping costs, AND pay a dealer to receive it. 7% tax is cheaper... AND quicker.:D

And lastly, only if they catch you with one. I haven't seen any random searches since I've been here. I saw quite a few when I was active duty.
I'm ashamed to say, having been checked several times, there were times when I was amazed that they didn't arrest me for DUI. A few decades ago, you were kind of encouraged to drink and have fun... and drive home... more like 3 or 4 decades ago, though. Anyone remember "Stag Bars" on bases??
Dining In's and/or Dining Outs(with spouses) were drunkfests for a lot of us. I don't think that I ever did a "carrier landing", but some did. Imagine a liter carafe of wine every yard or so on the long tables with a lot of it "going to waste"... I had a duty to prevent that... or it seemed! We all got a cigar for after the meal, too.
Wynn:blushing:


Shipping is always included in the price at Buds. You do have to pay for use of the Credit Card, not Buds' fault, it's the neo **** money grabbing democratics blood sucking banks. Whew, I feel some better now. You do also have to pay for insurance on the delivery. The receiving FFL sets his receiving price as you already know and some of them hang out with the folks above at the bank. Glad I didn't have to write all that over again.
They are usually tough to beat.

jlottmc
06-06-2010, 03:44 PM
At buds, you'd have to pay for using your credit card, shipping costs, AND pay a dealer to receive it. 7% tax is cheaper... AND quicker.:D

And lastly, only if they catch you with one. I haven't seen any random searches since I've been here. I saw quite a few when I was active duty.
I'm ashamed to say, having been checked several times, there were times when I was amazed that they didn't arrest me for DUI. A few decades ago, you were kind of encouraged to drink and have fun... and drive home... more like 3 or 4 decades ago, though. Anyone remember "Stag Bars" on bases??
Dining In's and/or Dining Outs(with spouses) were drunkfests for a lot of us. I don't think that I ever did a "carrier landing", but some did. Imagine a liter carafe of wine every yard or so on the long tables with a lot of it "going to waste"... I had a duty to prevent that... or it seemed! We all got a cigar for after the meal, too.
Wynn:blushing:


There's always the if you get caught part. Like I said I seem to remember where my 1911 was in my truck, and that was right after 9/11. There were a couple of times that I should have been nailed for a DUI, but got lucky. With us those were a career ender, unless you were a) an officer b) had something on some one (don't see how a couple had multiples like that) and c) didn't mind not driving on base, and not getting a promotion past captain. Anyone else was screwed, sans lube and hard. There were more than a few calls to PMO from the Staff NCO club...

wyntrout
06-07-2010, 02:05 AM
No, I don't "carry" a weapon on base. I leave it in the vehicle. I still want to be able to protect myself on the way there and elsewhere after leaving the "safety" of the base... thinking of Fort Hood and all of the unarmed victims recently.
Wynn

jlottmc
06-07-2010, 07:04 AM
That always got me to Wynn. The fact that I didn't live on base, and the fact that especially as an armorer I couldn't have a weapon, in the barracks, or on me, just seemed counter intuitive. I know that crime on base is next to nothing and that an incident like Ft Hood would literally be the second time ever, but it still seemed wrong. I mean we were trusted to go just about everywhere with a loaded weapon, to include sleeping with one, when deployed, but on base... Even in the field, we rarely had ammo, and then it was mostly for show, Heaven forbid you loaded a round, much less fired one.

wyntrout
06-07-2010, 10:29 AM
Hey! Been there, done that. We sometimes got detailed as a couriers to run some classified to another base on Okinawa. We were given a S&W .38 special (model 15-4"?). I don't think we had any briefing on the use or carry condition. Most of the guys put the bullets in their pocket. I loaded 5 with the hammer on an empty chamber. Thank goodness, I never had to make any decision about defending myself or the classified. I'm sure firing the gun would have been an international incident and I would have been hung!:eek:
Wynn:D

jlottmc
06-07-2010, 11:50 AM
You were armed to convey classified?!?!?!? They only time we were was when we had weapons/ammo in transit or the range and that was it, unless on guard duty. At least as an armorer I had the option of being armed (guess what I chose), and I didn't have to go far or do much to get my weapon. Even after 9/11 we were standing gates with condition 3 weapons. Only had to chamber a round once then, and that was as a show of force. Drunk ossifer was giving my MP's a hard time. He quit real quick after another SAF'er and I took a step back and chambered a round. We got reamed for it, but we were right.

wyntrout
06-07-2010, 12:08 PM
I could have been carrying up to TS codeword stuff... the very same stuff that I saw about that time on the cover of Time Magazine... the classified documents that the North Koreans got off the USS Pueblo. I was in the Air Force Security Service... the equivalent of the Naval Security Group... under NSA. We used ground and air for our ELINT collection. I was one of the 'back end" linguist, aircrew members... like the P3 Navy plane forced down by the Chinese after one of their hotshot pilots collided with it a few years ago.
Wynn

jlottmc
06-07-2010, 12:12 PM
Good stuff. I was cleared for TS but only need Secret. The most intel I got was from the MAGTF planner, and that was limited.

wyntrout
06-07-2010, 12:27 PM
The kind of jobs I held, I didn't want to be captured and that was a constant concern, since we flew orbits off to the east of Haiphong Harbor. We were especially attentive to their Tac Air, GCI, and pilots' transmissions. I had a 12-week FAM or familiarization course in Vietnamese, Northern Dialect... very different from the South. I could handle the limited conversation and keep up with what the enemy fighters were doing. They didn't talk much and used a lot of codewords for stuff like altitude and enemy plane. They were real good about compromising codeword changes immediately.
What we didn't want to hear was enemy fighters headed East... beyond 50 miles. They would be after us!:eek: Without Mig Cap protection, we orbited a bit further out.
The only real excitement I experienced was on the ground, though,... rocket and mortar attacks and other fireworks displays. I "saw" combat.:D

Oh, and I was carrying classified and we were at war... hence the weapon.

Wynn

jlottmc
06-07-2010, 02:06 PM
That would do it. I remember many a cold night in Bosnia, then a long walk home as well. That crap got old fast. I learned enough Slavik and some of the other local dialects to know when I was going to be in trouble. Fortunately for me, I could play German or Spanish really quickly then. Those guys had less problems.

wyntrout
06-07-2010, 02:41 PM
That was always my plan in Europe... play dumb and be anything but American. We have pissed off too many bad guys and have too many people who hate us... even in our own country, unfortunately. I always try to "blend in". Being able to get by in a few languages can really help, too. Most people outside the U.S. don't expect Americans to speak anything but English... and that, poorly.:D
When I went to Japan in '67, around the Israeli 6-days War, I was somewhat fluent or conversant in Arabic and "familiar"with North Vietnamese, and had two years of French and Spanish from high school. They spoke Japanese, of course, so I was out of luck language-wise there.
If I hadn't cross-trained to Vietnamese, I would have been in the Mediterranean area or the Middle East using the Arabic. Some of my buds wound up in flying slots and staying in hotels in Athens and drawing nice per diem, using the language we had real training in.
I had some experiences they didn't have, and I didn't get hurt, so all turned out well.
Too bad we "lost" the war due to our government's stupidity and the Lame Stream Media deciding that we had lost the war after the first Tet offensive, where we won every battle and nearly exterminated the VC and put a big dent in the NVA's ability to wage war south of the DMZ. We kicked butt, but that wasn't the way the media saw it. CBS Evening News anchor Walter Cronkite turned many Americans against the Vietnam War, expressing his own views rather than reporting factual news. Of course, that's the "norm" for all of the "mainstream media"... with the exception of FOX News. Check this:
Cronkite And The Vietnam War - CBS News Video (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2827337n)
Wynn

jlottmc
06-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Wynn that's part of the strategy for a one world government. They do it to this day. I have a book I want you to find it's called Everything You Know is Wrong: Your Guide to Mis-information and Lies. It's edited by Russ Kick. Read this and see if your eyes don't bug out.