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Verbalkint99
05-06-2014, 04:27 PM
The under side of my CW45 has gouge marks that run along side the pick up rail. At first I thought the ejector was catching it but the marks are not linear and the ejector shows no signs or rubbing, snagging, or catching on anything. Yet the ejector is the only thing riding in this channel. I can't imagine this being normal.

Thanks

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/verbalkint_99/20140506_171240_zpsdf7d07b5.jpg

smokersteve
05-06-2014, 04:52 PM
It doesn't look normal. Email a picture to Kahr. I'm guessing they will replace it

Bawanna
05-06-2014, 04:59 PM
I suspect they could easily clean that up. I'm trying to figure out what the heck is causing it. Haven't seen one like that before. Ejector too high or something?

CJB
05-06-2014, 05:15 PM
Residual tool marks. No consequence. Notice the frosted appearance. Was blasted when finished. Caused by a caught chip on the cutter....no big deal

Bawanna
05-06-2014, 07:08 PM
That makes sense to me. Nice to have some machinist on board to enlighten us.

nuke
05-06-2014, 08:48 PM
Yeah, I thought it occurred during machining, too, when I first saw it.

Tilos
05-06-2014, 10:32 PM
Residual tool marks. No consequence. Notice the frosted appearance. Was blasted when finished. Caused by a caught chip on the cutter....no big deal
yep gouges would be shiney if they were made after finishing, just some extra lube grooves:behindsofa:

muggsy
05-07-2014, 07:41 AM
I would have been ashamed to have signed my name to that kind of work. Some of us have higher standards. That part should have been rejected by quality control. Send that picture to Kahr and request that they replace the slide.

Bawanna
05-07-2014, 11:04 AM
I'd probably do that too. One of the things that really impressed me on the first Kahr I looked inside, was the quality of the machining, it was just gorgeous.

While this one will run till the cows come home without issue it is cosmetically unappealing.

jocko
05-07-2014, 05:17 PM
I would have been ashamed to have signed my name to that kind of work. Some of us have higher standards. That part should have been rejected by quality control. Send that picture to Kahr and request that they replace the slide.

now wouldn't that be a laugh. a quality control inspection signed "OK Muggsy"

Just sayin

wyntrout
05-07-2014, 05:28 PM
Could that be a bad casting... before machining... flaw in the metal?

I would email a picture to Kahr. That could be bad metal and prone to failure... but, I'm no metallurgist OR machinist.

Wynn:)

Tilos
05-07-2014, 08:10 PM
The slide is not cast or even forged, it's machine from bar stock.

muggsy
05-07-2014, 08:48 PM
Tilos is correct. And I was a machinist, as well as a mechanic. That slide wouldn't have made it to inspection had I milled the part.

CJB
05-07-2014, 09:56 PM
I think the issue is rather picayune. Its an internal surface, does not effect performance, and we're all just a bunch of spoiled so-and-so's on this.

Shoot it like you stole the fokker!

muggsy
05-08-2014, 09:45 AM
Excuse me, but when I pay top dollar for a top quality firearm I don't expect it to look like it was manufactured in Germany during the final days of the Third Reich. If it does it should be stamped with a B and sold as a blem at a reduced price. Some of us adhear to a higher standard.

Bawanna
05-08-2014, 11:11 AM
No excuse for ya, your mother should have .........I hate myself, why do I always have to be mean and hateful and go for the jab.


You think I been around Jocko too much? You think I need a evaluation?

CJB
05-08-2014, 11:46 AM
to me it looks like it was made in Hartford Connecticut by Colt

pbagley
05-08-2014, 11:47 AM
No excuse for ya, your mother should have .........I hate myself, why do I always have to be mean and hateful and go for the jab.


Cruel to be kind?



You think I been around Jocko too much? You think I need a evaluation?

More like an intervention. At least your typing has not suffered.

knkali
05-08-2014, 12:10 PM
Excuse me, but when I pay top dollar for a top quality firearm I don't expect it to look like it was manufactured in Germany during the final days of the Third Reich. If it does it should be stamped with a B and sold as a blem at a reduced price. Some of us adhear to a higher standard.

At first, I was thinking that if it runs well don't sweat it. However after reading Mugg's post, I recant that and think he is correct.

jocko
05-08-2014, 12:35 PM
Muggsy is right, kills me to say it but he is right in ths ONE CASE. I have documented his posts for 2 years now and this is his first time being RIGHT. so lets give the Muggsy guy a big clapp. Just sayin

getsome
05-08-2014, 01:08 PM
Hurrumph for Muggsy!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuHKWzWtBzM

knkali
05-08-2014, 01:25 PM
Yeah Muggs can drop a few pearls of wisdom out there.

muggsy
05-08-2014, 01:56 PM
Muggsy is right, kills me to say it but he is right in ths ONE CASE. I have documented his posts for 2 years now and this is his first time being RIGHT. so lets give the Muggsy guy a big clapp. Just sayin

In higher social circles the clap is referred to as the applause. Bawanna is right, I've been hanging around Jocko for so long it's beginning to affect my good judgement.

Verbalkint99
05-08-2014, 04:24 PM
lol, Thanks for the entertaining advice. Just sent Kahr an email, lets see what they say.

xsailer
05-08-2014, 05:22 PM
I would have been ashamed to have signed my name to that kind of work. Some of us have higher standards. That part should have been rejected by quality control. Send that picture to Kahr and request that they replace the slide.

I agree with you Muggsy. If it was passed by inspection THEY wouldn't pass inspection.

CJB
05-08-2014, 09:35 PM
Jeeze Muggs, it doesn't look like Wehrmacht output. It has a tool mark. ****!!!!! A tool mark... a TOOL mark!!!!!

Ever looked at any of the classic collectable Colts? Smith and Wesson? Ruger? Walther? Browning HP's and other pistols from FN? They got tool marks.

We're spoiled.

muggsy
05-09-2014, 01:15 PM
Jeeze Muggs, it doesn't look like Wehrmacht output. It has a tool mark. ****!!!!! A tool mark... a TOOL mark!!!!!

Ever looked at any of the classic collectable Colts? Smith and Wesson? Ruger? Walther? Browning HP's and other pistols from FN? They got tool marks.

We're spoiled.

I've never seen tool marks to match those on any of the guns you mentioned. Tool marks are uniform and don't stick out like a sore thumb. Either the tool broke or a chip was caught under it. In either case I wouldn't have signed my name to that work. It would have found it's way into the scrap barrel without going to inspection. Some of us take pride in our work and expect to get what we pay for.

Bawanna
05-09-2014, 02:13 PM
OK, OK, how about a great big wet group smoochy kiss right on the smackers.

berettabone
05-09-2014, 03:13 PM
peloosi don look gud either, an knowbodi is sendin hir back, just sayin.................

Southerngunner
05-09-2014, 06:43 PM
peloosi don look gud either, an knowbodi is sendin hir back, just sayin.................


I think they tried sending her back and the and the stinkhole she came from kept spittin her back out:eek:

CJB
05-09-2014, 08:35 PM
I've never seen tool marks to match those on any of the guns you mentioned. Tool marks are uniform and don't stick out like a sore thumb. Either the tool broke or a chip was caught under it. In either case I wouldn't have signed my name to that work. It would have found it's way into the scrap barrel without going to inspection. Some of us take pride in our work and expect to get what we pay for.

Nobody would have signed their name - its done on automatated FADAL machines!

The rest of the finish is so nice...

If I get a wild streak goin, I'll take some pictures of whats inside my four High Powers. Not pretty. But they work just fine!

CJB
05-09-2014, 08:36 PM
OK, OK, how about a great big wet group smoochy kiss right on the smackers.

Oh Bawanna, I didn't know you cared!

muggsy
05-10-2014, 08:11 AM
I'm more into a group hug. Different strokes for different folks. My dad and I shared the same first name. A long time ago I once said that something was good enough. My father corrected me. He said that there was no such thing as good enough. Something was good or it was no good, but never "good enough". He reminded me that his name and mine were the same. He made me promise never to sign his name to something that was "good enough". I've always honored my fathers request. If everyone thought like my father none of us would ever have to settle for "good enough".

CJB
05-10-2014, 08:34 AM
Unknown Hinson was named for his daddy. Sez right on his birth certificate: Father "unknown".

Verbalkint99
05-10-2014, 09:33 PM
Well, got an email back. All it said was to email them the SN of the gun and my name and address so they can send me shipping info to send it in.

muggsy
05-10-2014, 10:34 PM
They can e-mail a prepaid shipping label that you can print out on your printer.