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‘We Already Do That!’: MRCTV’s Dan Joseph Demolishes the Left’s ‘Gun Show Loophole’ Myth
May. 9, 2014 10:30pm Jason Howerton
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MRCTV’s Dan Joseph recently traveled to a gun show to “see how their safety and sales operate.” What he found is antithetical to the left’s claims about the so-called “gun show loophole.”

So what’s the process of buying a gun from a vendor at a gun show?

“You have to fill out a form 4473 for the federal government, and then the state police are on site here — but we also do a criminal and mental background check through our state police website,” one gun vendor explained.

For those who don’t pass those background checks, they will “more than likely” be arrested, he added. Gun dealers are also well within their rights to simply deny a sale if they feel it’s necessary.

Another vendor told Joseph that gun dealers tend to be “ultra professional and very concerned” about who they are selling guns to — perhaps even more than they are legally required to be.

“We already do that!” a vendor said when asked about gun control advocates calling for background checks at gun shows. “They want to take your guns.”

It should be noted that federal law requires licensed firearms dealers to conduct background checks. As the Washington Times notes, a “2001 Justice Department survey found 0.7 percent of state and federal prison inmates bought their weapons at a gun show.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/09/we-already-do-that-mrctvs-dan-joseph-demolishes-the-lefts-gun-show-loophole-myth/

[Longitude Zero]

Preaching to the choir. But a great reminder of reality. Now what happens in the parking lots or nearby between two individuals....

[Bawanna]

At our gunshows you have to be a member to buy or sell or even have a firearm on your person. Part of the membership is a back ground check prior to membership approval.

Non members can pay and enter and I think they can buy ammo and accessories but no guns. Most table holders have signs that say if your not a member not to touch.

We have our own security force that wanders inside the show and outside in the parking lot. Not to say parking lot deals can't happen but not much can be done about that. Probably a lot of dope deals in the parking lot too ya know.

There is no gun show loop hole round these parts.

[ltxi]

Gun show parking lot deals are prohibited in Colorado as well.

[ripley16]

Rights vary from state to state. It's the private sales that have the leftists all bothered. Too much freedom and too little governmental control is their nemesis. Some states do allow this "right" and others limit or refuse this "right". I've purchased firearms at gun shows without doing any more than handing over cash. I like it that way. :Amflag2:

[muggsy]

Private sales aren't monitored in Ohio, nor should they be. The only restriction is that the person that you sell to has to be a resident of Ohio.

[CJB]

Haven't been to a gun show in a while, but it used to be that there was a mix of FFL's and non-FFL tables. That is, just private folks wanting to sell, trade, barter, etc, to improve and expand (or liquidate) their collections - without being a Curio and Relic FFL. In other words, maybe 60 percent of the table were just average Joe, wanting to rid themselves of a Redhawk and maybe trade it for some old 1911. I know this as certain fact, because I had several friends that used to 'go in" on a table, for that very purpose, and because "vendors" got the evening before the main show to set up and conduct transactions between themselves - which they considered getting the cherry deals, or at least right of first refusal.

[Planedude]

Kind of silly to argue about the "loophole" in my book.
Could a repeat offender drunk driver by another car in your state?
Could a felony convicted burglar buy a crowbar in your state?
And could a person convicted of Identity theft buy a laptop in your state?


Simply, yes they can, from someplace and someone. Guns are better regulated than most any other form of property in the US and every state.


Someone trying to do bad things will find a way to buy, or steal what they want. Denying all the rest of us our rights for the actions of the few is the real crime of government against it's citizens.

[Bawanna]

The majority of table holders at our shows are average Joe's without FFL's. No paperwork, just money for gun and a receipt if you want one.

BUT, we require membership and part of that membership is a background check. So everybody who's wearing a membership badge is known to be qualified to purchase.

FFL holders have to do the paperwork just like a shop.

There is no loophole.

[muggsy]

I can sell a gun to anyone at any time. I could sell a gun to a six year old on a school playground, if I wanted to. Laws don't prevent crimes. They are in place to punish criminals and only if the criminals are caught. Murder is a crime and murders occur every day. Laws have no effect on the law abiding, because the law abiding don't commit crimes. It's a vicious circle.

[ripley16]

Private sales aren't monitored in Ohio, nor should they be. The only restriction is that the person that you sell to has to be a resident of Ohio.

That is not accurate, there are several restrictions in Ohio. Among them is a age limit and ability to otherwise qualify. "Private sales" do not infer that state laws can be ignored.