Mag Release Button

[TenorTim]

So I shoot left handed... I use my strong hand middle finger to hit the mag release... It's not as naturally intuitive as the thumb of a right handed person would be. It requires more fine motor skills to hit the little thing and press it in completely. I'd like to add a larger surface to the button. I've seen an additional piece added to the end of the button on other firearms, but no examples of it on Kahrs. Anyone done this?

[muggsy]

I think that the possibility of accidentally dropping the mag before empty out weighs any benefit to having a larger mag release button. I don't know of anyone who has done it for the reason you mentioned. You might be better off carrying a gun with an ambi or reversable mag release.

[ohio lock]

I sometimes carry my Walther PPS with the mag release on the trigger guard and I have never once dropped the mag. It takes some getting used to but once you do it is in the perfect spot IMHO. Great little carry gun.

[leftysixty]

Try using your trigger finger to release the mag. Depending on the particular pistol I'll use my trigger finger or my bird finger to drop the mag:D

[TenorTim]

Yeah currently using my "bird finger" but it isn't very reliable...it's a cm9.. As for accidentally hitting the button , I just don't see it since the button is located at the base of the trigger guard and away from the grip fingers... The trigger finger arches to engage the trigger leaving a large area around the button open. I don't see an issue. Thanks for the input but my question was directed as to whether anyone has done this mod. The question of whether the mod is a good idea will likely bring an avalanche of opinions with no definitive conclusion. I'll buy an extra mag catch and put it on the bridgeport and let everyone know the results. Thanks

[RRP]

Extended mag releases are a great option on a range gun. But what works well in competition, is not always practical for a carry gun. For instance, there are plenty of known cases of magazines being released from holstered guns, because an extended magazine-release-button was compressed against the holster during carry. The mag remains in the gun, due to the angle of the grip, so the user may not be aware that the magazine was released until they present the weapon and the mag drops out. When this happens, you have, at best, one shot. If the gun is equipped with a mag disconnect as required by some states, even the remaining round in the chamber cannot be fired.

For this reason, informed shooters would never install an enhanced magazine release on a CCW. But you're not looking for opinions, so you can do with this as you wish. Good luck.

[RRP]

Modifications are not a substitute for training.

[TenorTim]

All good points. I'm only looking to make it a bit bigger.. More like a glock size. This is my EDC so I'll do plenty of testing before trusting it.... For $12 why not try it?

[gb6491]

All good points. I'm only looking to make it a bit bigger.. More like a glock size. This is my EDC so I'll do plenty of testing before trusting it.... For $12 why not try it?
I say go for it, but please post your results and thoughts about it afterwards.
Regards,
Greg

[jocko]

So I shoot left handed... I use my strong hand middle finger to hit the mag release... It's not as naturally intuitive as the thumb of a right handed person would be. It requires more fine motor skills to hit the little thing and press it in completely. I'd like to add a larger surface to the button. I've seen an additional piece added to the end of the button on other firearms, but no examples of it on Kahrs. Anyone done this?

left haded all my life most all semi's for years had mag release on the left side. I just grew into it. If I had a gun that had a reversible mag relase, i would not change it now. Ihave adapted perfectly with the system. I see no hindrance at all for a lefty. Not sure I would change a thing on any kahr to accomadate a lefty, Just sayin. It just seems so darn natural now for me..:amflag:

someone needs to be a hell of a machinists to pull this off neatly, IMO

[Gunny]

Try this at home. After making a complete safe weapon, simulate firing last round. As both hands start coming back towards chest, allow right hand to take control of pistol. Use right thumb to release mag. The left hand replaces mag. As pistol moves away from chest, let the pistol go back to left hand. Practice this until it becomes second nature. This works for me.

[Bawanna]

It's a shame we can put a man on the moon but there isn't an operation to fix left handed people. I feel so sorry for them sometimes.

Course then I see a set of stairs or a curb and start feeling sorry for myself., ok, ok, that's a bald faced lie right there but the operation for lefty's is the truth.

[leftysixty]

Us left handed folks are the only ones in our right minds :crazy: AND we are way more talented than "righties" 'cause we gotta function in a right handed world:D


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[AIRret]

It's a shame we can put a man on the moon but there isn't an operation to fix left handed people. I feel so sorry for them sometimes.

Course then I see a set of stairs or a curb and start feeling sorry for myself., ok, ok, that's a bald faced lie right there but the operation for lefty's is the truth.

So then I'm really sunk!!!!!!!! For years I shot right handed, now I have to shoot left handed………hmmmmmmm
There no operation for me……..I guess I'll sell my guns!?!?!?!?!NOT

[AIRret]

left haded all my life most all semi's for years had mag release on the left side. I just grew into it. If I had a gun that had a reversible mag relase, i would not change it now. Ihave adapted perfectly with the system. I see no hindrance at all for a lefty. Not sure I would change a thing on any kahr to accomadate a lefty, Just sayin. It just seems so darn natural now for me..:amflag:

someone needs to be a hell of a machinists to pull this off neatly, IMO

Jocko I agree (can't believe I'm saying this)!

Even though it's less than three years since I switched to the left hand, doing a lefty mag release is now second nature.

I guess it's just a matter of training!!!

[TenorTim]

It's a shame we can put a man on the moon but there isn't an operation to fix left handed people.

The "operation" needs to be on the gun... much easier than fixing us left handed people. (you guys are silly lol) I just don't get why kahr can't invest a little R&D to develop an ambidextrous gun. I'm no rocket scientist, but I am a mechanical designer... I just don't see where this would be very difficult to pull of on my CM9.. We're just talking about two components (Slide lock and mag release)


regarding "training" and having "no problems hitting the mag release"... I can hit it fairly consistently too.. (on the range)... Been shooting it 3 years this way... But pulling your middle finger out from around the frame, curling it back between your palm and the grip and pressing that 1/4" dia surface directly in, with no rearward force (which causes it to drag and not fully depress) is a FINE motor skill (IMO)... and will go out the window in a fight.... I want more surface area with more room for error.

[leftysixty]

The "operation" needs to be on the gun... much easier than fixing us left handed people. (you guys are silly lol) I just don't get why kahr can't invest a little R&D to develop an ambidextrous gun. I'm no rocket scientist, but I am a mechanical designer... I just don't see where this would be very difficult to pull of on my CM9.. We're just talking about two components (Slide lock and mag release)


regarding "training" and having "no problems hitting the mag release"... I can hit it fairly consistently too.. (on the range)... Been shooting it 3 years this way... But pulling your middle finger out from around the frame, curling it back between your palm and the grip and pressing that 1/4" dia surface directly in, with no rearward force (which causes it to drag and not fully depress) is a FINE motor skill (IMO)... and will go out the window in a fight.... I want more surface area with more room for error.


I wouldn't want to argue with ya, BUT I have very few "fine motor skills" left to use :mad: And I manage to work (left handed) a mag release quite well.:p

Just for giggles try using your trigger (index) finger to push the mag release.

Just sayin :D :amflag:

[berettabone]

On my da/sa firearms, I switch the mag release to the right side, and I am right handed. When I use my index finger to hit the release, I don't have to regrip the firearm...........makes it easier for me.

[Bawanna]

I'm thinking a guy could probably modify one of the 1911 ambi mag release's. I'm not nuts about them they are a bit hokey to me but they do work.
They just basically pull rather than push.

The way the spring is set up, I don't see any way of reversing it so it could be pushed from the right side. Would be a tough modification I think.

I've not looked at any of the true ambi mag releases to see how they are arranged.

I do bat left handed and if I were to golf (perish the thought) I'd do that left handed but other than that my left arm is pretty much just for decoration and balance.

[jocko]

Jocko I agree (can't believe I'm saying this)!

Even though it's less than three years since I switched to the left hand, doing a lefty mag release is now second nature.

I guess it's just a matter of training!!!

the agreeance part. It is hell to have to admit that ol jocko is RIGHT. but don't get to bent out of shape, just keep it to yourself and all will be OK.:amflag:

[jocko]

It's a shame we can put a man on the moon but there isn't an operation to fix left handed people. I feel so sorry for them sometimes.

Course then I see a set of stairs or a curb and start feeling sorry for myself., ok, ok, that's a bald faced lie right there but the operation for lefty's is the truth.

that takes alot of balls to knock the 10% of us who were special made by God for reasons u wouldnever understand. I would normally take offense to that styatement but I know u could really giave a rats ass how my feelings were hurt to. But I also understand ur from Washintgon to, so that tells us Mid westerners alot about ones character to. Just sayin

[Bawanna]

Actually I'm told it's 6%, don't puff up your numbers to try and scare me mr.

But I do care about your sensitive feelings. I really do.:lie:

[muggsy]

that takes alot of balls to knock the 10% of us who were special made by God for reasons u wouldnever understand. I would normally take offense to that styatement but I know u could really giave a rats ass how my feelings were hurt to. But I also understand ur from Washintgon to, so that tells us Mid westerners alot about ones character to. Just sayin

Bawanna's a character alright, straight out of a western movie. True Grit.

[jocko]

Actually I'm told it's 6%, don't puff up your numbers to try and scare me mr.

But I do care about your sensitive feelings. I really do.:lie:

who u gonna believe???? Just sayin The 6% is the amount of ****'s that are right handed. I think u got mixe dup a tad colonel. Jst sayin