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Hawkeye911
06-10-2014, 05:42 PM
In reading here, I saw someone reference using the second pad of the trigger finger rather than the tip for a smooth double action straight-line pull. For some reason, in 50 years of shooting, I had never heard of the concept.

When I got my little CW380, my finger naturally hit in that position because of the small grip size, so I tried it... and liked it! It seems to make it very easy to keep the pull direction in line with the barrel axis. Have since tried dry firing my CM9 with the same technique, and it may prove to be a winner.

On both guns, though, I notice the same uncomfortable little detail. As the trigger pivots back, it exposes a little rectangle at the base. With that much flesh covering the trigger with the wider part of my finger, the leading edge/ corner feels sharp and irritating.

Is this a spot anyone as ever dressed up with file or sandpaper? It is no big deal, but I was really reluctant to do anything in a potentially sensitive area without some advice.

Thanks for any thoughts.

b4uqzme
06-10-2014, 06:18 PM
Never read about using the second pad...but I do recommend using the inside crease of the first knuckle = between pads 1 and 2. That's the revolver method which makes sense as a Kahr trigger feels more like a revolver trigger than a typical pistol.

I don't see any harm in smoothing the area you mentioned. But don't take my word for it. Wait for the other smart-fellers to chime in.

CJB
06-10-2014, 09:23 PM
I thought of doing it on the PM-45 that I bought new, but... it had to go to the factory and came back all smoothed out (different trigger actually).

Hey but why not? Best way, remove the trigger. I also seem to remember that someone here did it with the trigger in place a few years back.

TheTman
06-10-2014, 09:24 PM
When my daughter was learning to shoot her new revolver, she was hitting low and to the left. I watched her trigger finger, and she was using the 2nd pad on her finger instead of the first. I told her to keep the first pad on the trigger, and her shots started hitting center. Still low, but we were only shooting about 5 yards.

Hawkeye911
06-10-2014, 11:05 PM
I couldn't get out because of an all-day rain, but I spent a some time "fiddling" with my observations by doing a lot of dry fire practice. What I was doing last night had the crease of my first joint aligned with the left edge of the trigger (right handed shooter) and the second pad doing the pulling.

If I shift my grip minutely and move the finger back about 1/4", I am in the crease again... and the irritation from the trigger base is a non-issue. If I think about it, I can still get a nice straight pull in line with the bore using this grip.

Only actually shooting will tell the final result, but I think once muscle memory is place due to practice to make all this automatic, I'll have found the form I want to use with my Kahrs.

Thanks to all for your suggestions.

hardluk1
06-11-2014, 07:48 AM
I watched a review on some micro 380 that hickok45 did and he commented about how his basket ball player sized hands did not fit this micro pistol well and has to use his middle pad on his trigger finger to fire some. Hes still accurate that way. So you simple do what you have to with your grip. Some people it just does matter , they can still shoot well.


If there a part of the pistols frame that could use some rounding or smoothing I would look to do it but only after I know it works well, proven reliable. After 300 or 400 rounds needed to do would it be a pistol you fire a lot or a little and carry a lot. Kahrs cs could give you a fit for messing with it or not even notice.


Once My pistols prove to be reliable I tend to change or modify what I want to.

Hawkeye911
06-11-2014, 09:43 AM
If there a part of the pistols frame that could use some rounding or smoothing I would look to do it but only after I know it works well, proven reliable. After 300 or 400 rounds needed to do would it be a pistol you fire a lot or a little and carry a lot. Kahrs cs could give you a fit for messing with it or not even notice.


Great point, hardluk! I think is will adopt that philosophy, as well.

Now that you mention it, it may have been Hickok45's video that was where I saw the middle pad idea, rather than here on this board. I think that man is a treasure to our sport, and I have thoroughly enjoyed what I've seen on his vids. His droll sense of humor really hits for me, and he is skilled, but humble at the same time. Ringing an 80 yard gong with a P380? His shooting of that gun was what first put the Kahr .380 on my radar. After I picked up a CM9 and loved it, the CW380 stayed on my mind until I found a deal I couldn't pass on...

Thanks for your thoughts.

muggsy
06-11-2014, 02:03 PM
Use what ever method that causes your point of impact to coincide with your point of aim.

JohnR
06-11-2014, 02:36 PM
I use the second pad on my Kahrs for the same reason the OP stated.

Never felt the need to smooth any part of the trigger, only the cheese grater grip.

yqtszhj
06-11-2014, 07:35 PM
Ive always used the second pad and it works well for me. Its all about trigger control anyway. I get the same pinch you do too.