Mk 40 at local G.S.

[Southerngunner]

One of our local gun shops has a MK40 with 2 mags for around $450. I may be able to get it for less as I know the owner well and have done a lot of bussiness with him. The gun looks pretty good and the mag with the gun is an extended version I don't know if both mags are the same. It fit fine in my oversized mitts with the longer mag. But they also had a cm9 which was way too small. My biggest delima is I gave up on the 40 S&W caliber a few years ago and got rid of all my dies and stuff for that caliber.
Any input on price and durability with the 40 cal would be appreciated.

[b4uqzme]

That would be a good price in my neck of the woods. Best I've seen around here was about $525 but with night sights.

As for durability? Well, it's a stainless Kahr. Nuff said.

40SW ammo around here is pretty reasonable too.

Good luck!

[Southerngunner]

That would be a good price in my neck of the woods. Best I've seen around here was about $525 but with night sights.

As for durability? Well, it's a stainless Kahr. Nuff said.

40SW ammo around here is pretty reasonable too.

Good luck!

Thanks, It doesn't have night sights which isn't that big of dealbreaker. Honestly my main issue is the caliber as I'm not sure if I want to tool up for the 40 S&W again and the other issue is the polygonal barrel as I would be shooting mostly lead bullets except when carried for defense. I gotta stay out of those dang gun stores:crazy:

[kerby9mm]

My mk40 is a finely made gun with a slide to frame fit like a custom gun. It has a better trigger that my mk9 with lighter pull & shorter reset. I'm like you about 40cal though & I probably haven't shot it in over a year. The price of the one you found is super low IMO.

[100percent]

I shoot cast in my PM40. Excellent accuracy.

[berettabone]

Sounds like an ok price.................40 cal.......my favorite.

[Southerngunner]

Thanks for everyones replies, I'm still on the fence with this one just because of the caliber. I have been shooting 1911 45's since the early 70's and I am also tooled up for 9mm. I had a sig 40S&W for a few years and it was a great gun but when I went shooting it was usually left in the safe and I would go back to old faithfull or a Smith wheelgun. Perhaps now since I have found the new appreciation for Kahr this would get used for more than just a carry weapon.
Thanks 100percent for the lead bullet responce because if I only can shoot jacketed or plated slugs because of the barrel I don't need that gun. I cast my own slugs so lead being compatible with that particular gun is a must. Of course I do check any weapon that I carry for function with the factory ammo that will be in the mag.

[berettabone]

I shoot .40 out of my large frame firearms..............I think the MK in .40 would be a bit stout for me;)

[Southerngunner]

I shoot .40 out of my large frame firearms..............I think the MK in .40 would be a bit stout for me;)
I know the 40 is a lot snappier reciol than a 9mm especially if you are useing the higher velocity loads. I regularly shoot light weight 45 acps and I have a S&W m696 which is a 44 special with a 3" barell and I shoot a 250 grain lead slug at 800 plus FPS . I am not very recoil sensitive, but for the reloads in a 40 I would probably back them down some.:cool:

[berettabone]

I'm not recoil sensitive either, but that's a lot of firepower from a small firearm. Although, I guess if you're used to shooting .44 from a 3", you should be able;) I find that 9mm in my MK is plenty.......I still want to be somewhat accurate.

[FLBri]

I have an MK9 and a K40 as well as a T40. The K is all I can handle for recoil. I bought an MK40 a year or so ago and sold it, favoring the MK9 that I also own. The T40 is like Butta.

It's not like I couldn't shoot it, but I certainly didn't look forward to it. Great little powerhouse if you can control it.

[b4uqzme]

I shoot .40 out of my large frame firearms..............I think the MK in .40 would be a bit stout for me;)

^^^^ I TOTALLY recommend the MK40 but that's why I prefer the K40 just a little bit. It still conceals just fine and you've got more to hold onto for both recoil and follow up shots.

40SW ammo around here is pretty reasonable -- just a little more expensive than 9mm so maybe you'd be happy shooting factory stuff. :)

[O'Dell]

I'm not fond of 40 S&W either, and only have two 40 cal pistols, an HK USP and a MK40N. The HK is my HDW and the MK40 is by far my favorite Kahr of the seven I've owned. I picked it up over three years ago, NIB, but it had been soaking up Kahr oil in the plastic bag for three years. It has factory NS's and cost $599 so I'm well satisfied with the purchase since that's about 1/2 retail. It's a fine and accurate shooter for such a small pistol, and the kicker is that it was born on my birthday, February 29, 2008.

[b4uqzme]

;) :rolleyes: you were born in 2008?

[Southerngunner]

I'm not recoil sensitive either, but that's a lot of firepower from a small firearm. Although, I guess if you're used to shooting .44 from a 3", you should be able;) I find that 9mm in my MK is plenty.......I still want to be somewhat accurate.

I totally understandwhat your saying, and I didn't mean any offence about the recoil. I also Had one of Smiths scandium frame 44 mags a 329PD that weighed 25 oz. I sold that one after about a year because it WAS making me recoil sensitive and after the first couple shots I couldn't hit squat:rolleyes: Bottom line Kahrs seem to be a great design because my CW45 with whatever loads I stuff in it remains managable:D There is absolutley more Kahr's in my future. Besides it confuses the h#ll out of my wife when I say I'm gonna buy another Kahr:D:tongue:

[O'Dell]

;) :rolleyes: you were born in 2008?


Technically you only have one birthday, the day you were born. However, it's common practice to celebrate that date annually and call it a birthday. In the case of the MK40N, it's actual one and only birthday was February 29, 2008. Mine was a few years earlier in multiples of four. ;)

[berettabone]

I totally understandwhat your saying, and I didn't mean any offence about the recoil. I also Had one of Smiths scandium frame 44 mags a 329PD that weighed 25 oz. I sold that one after about a year because it WAS making me recoil sensitive and after the first couple shots I couldn't hit squat:rolleyes: Bottom line Kahrs seem to be a great design because my CW45 with whatever loads I stuff in it remains managable:D There is absolutley more Kahr's in my future. Besides it confuses the h#ll out of my wife when I say I'm gonna buy another Kahr:D:tongue:
There was no offense taken...http://kahrtalk.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[kerby9mm]

I went to the range today to shoot my new 340pd (no ILS) & after reading this thread took my mk40 also. I put 50 38's & 5 357 SD rounds through the revolver then I shot my mk40 & the recoil didn't feel like much due to shooting the 340. I had forgotten how nice my mk40 shoots & to think I was going to sell it. Not anymore.

[Southerngunner]

I went to the range today to shoot my new 340pd (no ILS) & after reading this thread took my mk40 also. I put 50 38's & 5 357 SD rounds through the revolver then I shot my mk40 & the recoil didn't feel like much due to shooting the 340. I had forgotten how nice my mk40 shoots & to think I was going to sell it. Not anymore.

kerby9mm, Thanks for the comparison and even though I am a huge fanatic for S&W wheelguns their ultra lightweight frames are definitley more fun to carry than to shoot especially in the magnum calibers. I'm more worried about the grip size than the recoil. With the 1 extended mag the gun comes with it fits my hand O.K. but with the 5 round mag its just too small. I could always buy more mags or the mag extentions for the shorter mag:cool:
Even with my reservations I still think that I will be sorry if I don't make a move on this one.:2rolleyes:;):D

[b4uqzme]

^^^^ get thee to the gun store...do not pass "GO"...do not collect $200.........

[kerby9mm]

They make a pierce grip extension that I use on my mk40 . I took it off of my mk9 because I didn't need to have my whole hand on it .

[jeepster09]

I had my MK40 Magnaported and it is a fantastic shooter. They are a great gun, i'd say get it.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/jeepster09/IMG-20120202-00111.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/jeepster09/media/IMG-20120202-00111.jpg.html)

[Southerngunner]

I had my MK40 Magnaported and it is a fantastic shooter. They are a great gun, i'd say get it.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/jeepster09/IMG-20120202-00111.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/jeepster09/media/IMG-20120202-00111.jpg.html)

I really like the looks of that one:D

[FLBri]

That's a nice piece of jewelry/hardware there, Jeepster. I used to not like colored and coated pistols, but a recent acquisition of my own, and pictures like yours, have changed my tune.

So tell me ... did the porting change the flip factor perceptively?
Brian

[jeepster09]

Porting the MK40 made that gun shoot FANTASTIC. :amflag:

[berettabone]

Nice looking piece there............I prefer to shoot .40 from this.......

[Southerngunner]

I went back to the gun shop today and the owner wasn't in so I waited on the purchase until tomorrow. But I fondled the MK 40 again:D and I noticed the extended mag only drops about halfway out when the mag release is pushed. I didn't notice any damage or scrape marks anywhere.
I didn't try the flush mount mag so I don't know if it hangs up also. It may not need anything but some cleaning and lube, but it is a concern although not necessarily a deal breaker.
Has any other Mk owners had this issue and if so what did you do to resolve it?

Thanks,
Terry

[kerby9mm]

For comparison purposes my mk40's serial # is HA39XX & the empty mags shoot (no pun intended) out when I push the release button. Not saying it does but look at the bottom back of the inside of the magwell where the back bar of the frame meets the magwell to make sure its not cracked. There are pics on this forum of that occuring.

[Southerngunner]

Thanks for the info kerby, I will check out the frame and just for info it apears the gun was produced in 1999 from the serial number HA02xx . It doesn't seem to have been shot much .

[Bawanna]

Might just need to pinch that mag a tiny bit in a vise, perhaps a tad wide at the top, then it should shoot out like it should.

[Southerngunner]

I went back to the shop today and checked the frame for damage and there doesn't appear to be any :D I made the deal and I am now a proud owner of my first stainless Kahr. The problem was the extended mag not the frame, I took apart the mag and the follower was damaged and hanging up in the frame . The short 5 round mag shoots out like it is supossed to when the mag release button is hit.
I will post some pics of my new baby tomorrow and will try to get out and shoot it in the next day or so when I can round up some ammo. I plan on running a couple hundred rounds through it before I order reloading and casting supplies for the 40 S&W.:cool:
Thanks to all for your input and for being the little devil on my shoulder whispering "SCREW IT JUST GO BUY IT YOU WUSS";)

[RRP]

Thanks to all for your input and for being the little devil on my shoulder whispering "SCREW IT JUST GO BUY IT YOU WUSS";)

It's easy to spend someone else's money.

Congrats on your new purchase.

[Flieger]

Nice looking piece there............I prefer to shoot .40 from this.......

Ah, the Beretta 96FS, one of the most over looked and under appreciated handguns. While it is a large gun, it shoots wonderfully and it's difficult or should I say rare to have it fail to feed anything I use.

As for the Kahrs, the majority of rounds I shoot go through my K40. Much less for the MK40. It's purpose is for self defense. I use a Galco pocket holster carrying it on these summer days in my jeans. The K40 is more pleasant to shoot between the two, but I don't have a problem shooting my MK. I took the time to practice and at 7 - 15 yards, it does exactly what I expect from it and it's a gun I have full confidence in. While I prefer a .45, the .40 S&W is no slouch and would not want to be on the receiving end of the MK40.

[downtownv]

This is on a noter forum

I am looking to sell my Kahr MK9. I am the second owner and have had the gun since around 2011. The gun has around 500 rounds through it and has the slide and frame refinished by CCR in House Black( done by the previous owner). The night sights are still very bright and the gun has a few slight marks from normal use, nothing big though. The gun has functioned flawlessly and I have never had any issues. I am including 3 6 round Kahr magazines. I do not have the box or paper work anymore. I am asking 450.00 shipped . Please email me at camarena226@yahoo.com for pics or with questions. Thanks

[berettabone]

I find that sometimes, when your mag doesn't drop " freely", check your grip screws.............I have one, that if I turn it down tight, it rubs the mag ever so slightly................................

[Southerngunner]

I took Bawannas advice and checked the top of the mag and after some carefull vice work it is now fine.

[Barth]

My MK40 isn't punishing to shoot.
But getting it back on target quickly with full power 155/165 gr can be a challenge.
I find 180 gr sub sonics to be softer shooting.
And my particular MK, in my hands, seems to groups better with them.
I personally run Speer GDHP Short Barrel 180 gr for self defense.

[100percent]

I doubt if there is anything but subsonic with 180 grains on a mK40.

My theory is that rounds that go close to supersonic or drop below supersonic get a lot of buffeting and reduced accuracy.


My MK40 isn't punishing to shoot.
But getting it back on target quickly with full power 155/165 gr can be a challenge.
I find 180 gr sub sonics to be softer shooting.
And my particular MK, in my hands, seems to groups better with them.
I personally run Speer GDHP Short Barrel 180 gr for self defense.

[Barth]

I doubt if there is anything but subsonic with 180 grains on a mK40.

My theory is that rounds that go close to supersonic or drop below supersonic get a lot of buffeting and reduced accuracy.

Never stated there are any super sonic 180 gr 40 S&W ammo from a 3.0" barrel?
Just sharing my experience on MK40 felt recoil between sub sonic 180 and super sonic 155/165.
Never heard of accuracy issues with bullets traveling near super sonic either.
Do you have any evidence to substantiate that theory?

My HK P2000SK 3.3" barrel, in my hands, is deadly accurate with 165 gr bullets.

[100percent]

Only empirical evidence. I have shoot a lot of 105 grain in 9mm and they shoot great at 40 yards, they leave the barrel at 1300. 180 and 200 grain shoot fantastic in my 3" barreled glock and Kahr. The 180s I shoot are right at 900 in my glock and about 880 in my Kahr (PM40). Never loaded 165s in 40 but I have a bag of 155gr that gave me 1050-1100 in my glock. They were not as accurate. I am going to load them in 10mm and should be above by a few hundred fps. I don't have a long barreled 40 pistol.

My 38 snubby is a tack driver with 158 grain. My 44 mag is a tack driver but it is north of 1400 fps. All of my 1911's are great and all are subsonic.

There has to be trans-sonic turbulence, whether it is a big factor I have no way of knowing except by my own experiences. Aircraft have had bad things happen to them when passing through this range of velocity.

[mr.ed]

SouthernGunner - I've got a PM40 and it is sparky, after two or three magazines at the range. But I didn't buy it to get range time, I bought it to save my life. When I have but five in the magazine and one in the chamber I want one of those to stop Mr BadGuy. That's why I only carry .40s. Is that a good enough reason to get the 40? I think, yes!