CW380 please help

[Clinton90]

Alright so I picked up a cw380 at a good price new for $319+tax (my first kahr). I didn't want to go down to a 380 but I live in florida and summer time is just too hot to conceal anything other than a pocket 380 and I felt like Kahr has the best made "heavy duty" 380. Anyways I Cleaned it up, using rem oil I LIGHTLY lubed up the inside of the slide, the rails, and the outside of the barrel. First range trip 50 rounds of blazer brass 90g fmj. 10 critical defense hp's and 10 buffalo bore +P hp's..The slide locked back after the last round every time like it should so that was good. The critical defense ran flawless as Ive heard it always does in the kahr 380s. I had the same "malfunction" one time with the blazer brass and one time with the buffalo bore where the slide would lock back with rounds still in the mag (it wasn't jammed, all I had to do was release the slide and it was good to go again..Not bad for the first range trip I understand the kahr has a break in period because they come TIGHT out the box.. The 2nd range trip was all bad ( I did of course clean it up and re-lube it first. This is where im looking for suggestions. I didn't bother with any more critical defense because im confident it will work no problem. So Using the same blazer fmj, buffalo bore, and some federal Hydrashock, I had a new malfunction, the same malfunction with all 3 brands. After every single shot the trigger would not reset. The slide did return all the way to battery so that was not the issue (yes I tried to just push on the back of the slide and that didn't help. I would have to just cock it back a hair, release it, and then the trigger would reset and I could fire another round. This happened EVERY TIME. so frustrating that I only ended up shooting 15 rounds. Clearly something is wrong because this didn't happen the first range trip. I really don't want to send it in to kahr and I don't want this to be my last kahr but man it seems like these things are HIGH maintenance. For what its worth, I've never had one problem with my other guns. Glock 19, Springfield XDS, M&P Shield, and my girl ha a Ruger LCP which has also been FLAWLESS. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[wyntrout]

Hi, Clinton'. I'm sorry that you're having problems.

Trigger problems are best left to Kahr Customer Service.

In my experience, email works better with them, but call to make sure they pay for the shipping. Include your serial number and tell them the problems are you listed them here. They should give you an RMA send you a FedEx shipping label.

Wynn

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[Clinton90]

Thank you for the information Wynn. I just cant understand how If I manually cock the gun back when its empty (or even when it is fully loaded ) the trigger will reset no problem. But when I actually fire a round, no reset.? This is happening after only 50 rounds fired..I was hoping maybe someone experienced the same thing and could explain what would cause this but if not, I guess I'll be sending it in.

[b4uqzme]

Thank you for the information Wynn. I just cant understand how If I manually cock the gun back when its empty (or even when it is fully loaded ) the trigger will reset no problem. But when I actually fire a round, no reset.? This is happening after only 50 rounds fired..I was hoping maybe someone experienced the same thing and could explain what would cause this but if not, I guess I'll be sending it in.

Sorry about your troubles...and you are wise to post here because if someone has seen your issue before I am sure they will be glad to help out. Meanwhile start taking steps to send it back to Kahr because they certainly need to get you back up and running.

Good luck.

[kerby9mm]

If I understand your post correctly if the gun is out of battery even a little the trigger won't reset . I tested my mk9 & maybe a little over 1/4 of an inch will prevent reset .

[Ikeo74]

I had a few of no-resets on my CM9 and found out I was not releasing the trigger enough for it to travel forward enough to reset. My fix, was to concentrate on releasing the trigger after each shot. I haven't had any problem since. Sometimes it's the simple things that cause problems.

[Clinton90]

the slide was definitely returned to battery 100% I even pushed on the back of the slide to make sure. Still no reset. I would have to manually cock it back just a little, release it, and then the trigger would reset. I had to do that after every. single. shot.

[jocko]

what wyn says is the way to jgo. send the fikker back on kahrs dime.

[muggsy]

what wyn says is the way to jgo. send the fikker back on kahrs dime.

C'mon Jocko, make up your mind. Is the .380 a fikker or a fokker? Maybe it's a fikker because, it's such a little fokker. Now I'm getting confused. :)

[Clinton90]

Thought it was only right that I come back and give the good news that I got the cw 380 back from kahr service, took it out and put 50 rounds throught it. The trigger reset problem is fixed and I didn't have any problem except for with the buffalo bore +P JHP the slide would not lock back on the last shot. Everything else ran flawless including HPR hyperclean 100 grain FMJ, Federal Hydrashok, and critical defense. That buffalo bore has some serious kick out of this little 380 so I probably wouldn't carry with it anyways but especially due to the fact that the slide wouldn't lock on the last round.

SIDE NOTE: when I got the gun back from kahr it seriously looked like they put 100 rounds through it which is fine Im sure they just wanted to make sure it was good to go but man this thing was filthy I was kind of surprised they would send it back to me in that condition. They paid for shipping and had it back to me in 9 days so that was good.

[shlike]

Thought it was only right that I come back and give the good news that I got the cw 380 back from kahr service, took it out and put 50 rounds throught it. The trigger reset problem is fixed and I didn't have any problem except for with the buffalo bore +P JHP the slide would not lock back on the last shot. Everything else ran flawless including HPR hyperclean 100 grain FMJ, Federal Hydrashok, and critical defense. That buffalo bore has some serious kick out of this little 380 so I probably wouldn't carry with it anyways but especially due to the fact that the slide wouldn't lock on the last round.

SIDE NOTE: when I got the gun back from kahr it seriously looked like they put 100 rounds through it which is fine Im sure they just wanted to make sure it was good to go but man this thing was filthy I was kind of surprised they would send it back to me in that condition. They paid for shipping and had it back to me in 9 days so that was good.

Did they include a work report to tell you what they did to correct it, or what the problem was?

[Clinton90]

Did they include a work report to tell you what they did to correct it, or what the problem was?


Cocking cam and pin replaced

[wyntrout]

Congratulations on getting your pistol back. Maybe you need to check your magazine spring for correct orientation... free end to the front to give extra help to the front of the follower. Maybe a tiny bit of extra stretching the spring would help.

I usually take my mags apart and clean the "grease" from inside the tube. I use a real fine sandpaper to check for burrs on all of the edges and the sides of the follower, then I lightly oil the spring with just oil on my fingers before re-assembling the mag.

Wynn:)

[Clinton90]

Congratulations on getting your pistol back. Maybe you need to check your magazine spring for correct orientation... free end to the front to give extra help to the front of the follower. Maybe a tiny bit of extra stretching the spring would help.

I usually take my mags apart and clean the "grease" from inside the tube. I use a real fine sandpaper to check for burrs on all of the edges and the sides of the follower, then I lightly oil the spring with just oil on my fingers before re-assembling the mag.

Wynn:)

Might give that a try but it only happens with the buffalo bore +P. Every other brand of ammo Ive tried locked back on the last round no problem.

[wyntrout]

The BB is definitely different. I've fired over 200 rounds of that since I got my P380 in 2010. I prefer +P Gold Dots by Underwood now because BB had trouble getting more of those 90-gr GD's... I guess.

Wynn:)

[TominCA]

Don't give up on the Buffalo Bore - I have very good results with BB Barnes 80 grain. Never malfunctions and shoots right to point of laser (I have a laser on it) at 7 yards. BB is great ammo if you can stand the kick. I've chronoed some of it and it is much more consistent that most other brands.

[wildguzzi]

My CW380 does not like BB ammo either. It eats HPR the best. Never a problem with it. If I run BB, 1 out of 20 will fail to lock back. Strange, no other ammo I use does that. Hickok45 had problems with BB in the 380 he shot a video on too.