Christie vetoes gun magazine reduction bill

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Christie vetoes gun magazine reduction bill
By The Associated PressJuly 2nd, 2014 @ 5:30pm
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NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a gun control bill Wednesday that would have banned ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds.

In his veto message, the Republican governor rejected the idea that limiting the number of bullets that guns can hold will put an end to mass shootings, calling it a "simplistic" and "trivial" approach. The bill would have reduced the legal ammunition capacity from 15 to 10 rounds.

In the bill's place, Christie called for a series of reforms to mental illness treatment, including a new standard that would make it easier to commit people involuntarily.

"Mass violence will not end by changing the number of bullets loaded into a gun," said Christie, whose stance on guns is being watched closely ahead of a potential run for president in 2016.

Supporters of the bill, including parents of children killed in the 2012 Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting, have argued the limit would make mass shootings less deadly by requiring shooters to stop to reload more often, giving police and potential victims more time to react.

Christie signed several firearms bills into law last year, but he issued conditional vetoes of some of the more contentious ones, including a ban on .50-caliber rifles.

Democratic Assembly Majority Leader Louis Greenwald, a lead sponsor of the legislation, slammed the governor's decision and suggested Christie was pandering to the primary voters he may end up courting.

"The governor's action today can best be described with the words used in his own veto statement, 'difficult choices are brushed aside.uncomfortable topics are left unexplored.' I would imagine this is a very uncomfortable topic to have with conservative voters in Iowa and New Hampshire," he said.

Added Senate President Steve Sweeney, a Democrat: "This veto sounds like it was geared more for a national audience, rather than crafted for the streets of New Jersey."


Note Greenwald and Sweeney are the Head Jerk-offs on the libretard side.....
Christie was right, look at the mental cases that are the ones behind these horrific shoots (Most are Democrats by the way)

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=157&sid=30560852&title=christie-vetoes-gun-magazine-reduction-bill

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Can a tiger really change its stripes?

[muggsy]

I don't trust Christie any further than I can throw him and I doubt that I could even pick him up. The S.O.B. is a RINO.

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Looky at what I got...


Office of the GovernorOffice of Constituent RelationsPost Office Box 001Trenton, New Jersey 08625-0001

GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE ELECTRONIC RESPONSE




July 8, 2014
Mr. DOWNTOWNV
My street
My Town, New Jersey 00000

Dear Mr. Downtownv:

Thank you for writing to express your views regarding recent gun legislation. I appreciate hearing your views on this important issue.

Since my first term as Governor of New Jersey, and as the former United States Attorney for our State, my commitment to reducing violent crimes has been unwavering. In 2013, I convened the NJ SAFE Task Force which provided recommendations that served as the groundwork for my comprehensive and common sense plan to address the factors contributing to violence: focusing on the treatment of mental illness, bolstering the criminal penalties for gun crimes, and ending the revolving door of bail for the most serious and dangerous offenders. More than one year later, and despite no opposition, these obvious improvements to our criminal justice system languish unaddressed by the New Jersey State Legislature and unavailable to law enforcement.

I have now put forward a new set of recommended changes to our State's mental health laws that promise new hope in the fight against mass violence. My recommendations begin with the simple premise that physicians, clinicians, courts and families need the flexibility to intervene when the warning signs of mental illness signal imminent danger. First, to ensure that those in crisis can receive the help they need, I propose a new standard that will allow for the involuntary commitment of persons whose mental illness could, if left untreated, deteriorate to the point of becoming dangerous. Similarly, my proposal creates a new, clear separation between mental illness and other cognitive disabilities to make certain individuals are committed to involuntary treatment in the setting most appropriate for their condition.

Second, my recommendations amend current law to eliminate judicial concerns and clinical frustrations regarding the factors to be considered when recommending involuntary outpatient treatment. Individuals would then be evaluated based on a medically sound set of standards to provide predictable guidance for courts and clinicians to determine whether involuntary outpatient treatment is appropriate.

Third, my recommendations end the existing broken loops in mental health treatment by streamlining the transfer of patients between involuntary inpatient and outpatient treatment programs as deemed appropriate by clinicians.

Fourth, I recommend new training programs for first responders, those most likely to encounter persons in crisis with modern techniques for de-escalation and, where necessary, prompt referral for screening and commitment.

Finally, my recommendations strengthen our State's already rigorous gun laws to require a person previously involuntarily committed to mental health treatment to demonstrate adequate
medical evidence of suitability to obtain a firearms purchaser identification card.

We can insist that elected officials pass laws that will bring about meaningful change. Facing the intersection between untreated mental illnesses and mass violence is exactly the kind of real reform our State would welcome and it is a chance to examine the real causes of mass violence.

Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Chris Christie
Governor

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Asbury Park PressLetter to the Editor 7/11/14
Antiquated laws hinder mental health system

I commend Gov. Chris Chris*tie’s veto action on A-2006 (a bill that would reduce the maximum capacity of ammunition maga*zines to 10 rounds) in order to provide New Jersey with more comprehensive mental health reforms.

Other states should follow in the governor’s footsteps.

The unfortunate events we’ve seen in our schools and public places have less to do with gun control. These are diversions from what should be spoken about — mental health.

Across the board, our mental health system is rife with outdat*ed laws, misinformation and complexities that hinder those with mental illness and their loved ones from getting the help they need.

For instance, antiquated laws, once passed to protect against abuses — including the legal standard for involuntary com*mitment and HIPAA confidenti*ality laws — now hinder people from getting necessary treat*ment for loved ones in need of it .

Navigating these complex laws and the mental health sys*tem can be overwhelming. A le*gal professional trained in the mental health arena can often as*sist families and individuals in getting their loved ones the treatment and support they need, but the help can be more ef*fective with necessary reforms that are desperately needed.

Carolyn Wolf

DIRECTOR OF THE MENTAL HEALTH LAW PRACTICE AT ABRAMS FENSTERMAN NEW YORK

This and The illegal AND legal drugs are the root of 99% of all shootings..... The 800 pound Gorilla no one wants to mess with.