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ced_56
08-19-2014, 11:41 PM
Did see a thread yet on Texas Governor Rick Perry. So what are your thoughts on the cruel Governor using his lawful veto power to veto funding to a ethics comity ran by someone that had an arrest for DUI at three times the legal limit. I'm pretty sure the nut jobs in Austin are the only ones in the state supporting his inditement.
DavidS
08-20-2014, 12:09 AM
Politics as usual. Sure hope he is not the next Republican candidate for pres!
ced_56
08-20-2014, 12:15 AM
Not a fan of his I take it. I've only lived here for two years so I don't know all of his history but I'm all for him using his power to force her out in this case. How the heck can you have an ethics comity ran by someone like that.
b4uqzme
08-20-2014, 01:25 AM
Kudos to Perry for refusing to waste taxpayer money on a committee run by someone with such poor judgment. Seems silly that they would indict him for that. He's the one exercising sound judgment...
DavidS
08-20-2014, 01:32 AM
Kudos to Perry for refusing to waste taxpayer money on a committee run by someone with such poor judgment. Seems silly that they would indict him for that. He's the one exercising sound judgment...
ISTR that the indictment came from a county grand jury, her county! But, I may be wrong there.
DavidS
08-20-2014, 01:35 AM
Not a fan of his I take it. I've only lived here for two years so I don't know all of his history but I'm all for him using his power to force her out in this case. How the heck can you have an ethics comity ran by someone like that.
I don't hate the guy and generally agree with him. I just personally think he is about as smart as a box of rocks.
ripley16
08-20-2014, 05:53 AM
This 'indictment", by the "Texas Nifong", is just one more in a long line of leftists using the judicial system to attack, smear and eliminate political opponents. It's in their playbook.
CPTKILLER
08-20-2014, 02:42 PM
I live in Travis County, Texas and am a independent voter. However DA Lemberg should have been fired but she was retained in office by the County Commissioners over politics.
Perry did what was legal and it is a political move.
JohnR
08-20-2014, 02:58 PM
My take on it is this. The Dems knew this was a waste of time and would make them look like fools, and it didn't matter if Perry ultimately prevailed. The purpose of the indictment was simply to have fired the shot. That way, when (and I'm thinking positively, not saying "if") Obummer, Holder, or any of them get indicted the Dems will say, "Oh, they're just seeking revenge for Perry, it's purely a political stunt, it's dumb and meaningless!" And the big lies will be repeated a thousand times by the media, and the sheep will believe it.
This is why Bush was blamed for everything. When the next President blames 0bummer for everything the media will all say, "He (or she) is just whining like they said 0bummer did!"
It's all a setup for a mind game. Psychological warfare on a grand scale.
O'Dell
08-20-2014, 04:30 PM
. Sure hope he is not the next Republican candidate for pres!
Don't think that will happen and it's not related to the current hubbub. I always liked what I heard with Perry UNTIL the debates in 2012. That guy doesn't have the brains that God gave a head of lettuce.
DavidS
08-20-2014, 04:44 PM
Don't think that will happen and it's not related to the current hubbub. I always liked what I heard with Perry UNTIL the debates in 2012. That guy doesn't have the brains that God gave a head of lettuce.
Bingo, the reason for my post.
knkali
08-20-2014, 05:18 PM
really, I will have to see if I can find that and it might change my mind....currently, I think the guy is one of the good ones.
knkali
08-20-2014, 05:23 PM
oh I found it and I remember it now. Still would back him. Yeah he looked bad in front of the camera and the scrutiny. I'd give him another chance.
jeepster09
08-20-2014, 06:17 PM
I don't hate the guy and generally agree with him. I just personally think he is about as smart as a box of rocks.
Why because he gets nervous when speaking on stage? I think he would make a good canidate.
JohnR
08-20-2014, 08:33 PM
And 0bama's any smarter or a better speaker (without a teleprompter)?
JohnR
08-20-2014, 08:38 PM
Perry must be a credible threat to the Dems. http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/19/guess-behind-indictment-rick-perry-george-soros-donated-500k-cause/
muggsy
08-20-2014, 09:17 PM
I don't hate the guy and generally agree with him. I just personally think he is about as smart as a box of rocks.
A lot of people thougth that of George W. Bush. The same people thought that Obama was the second coming of Christ. George Bush is looking better with every move that Obama makes. Maybe it's the Drawl that has you confused.
Longitude Zero
08-20-2014, 09:23 PM
A lot of people thougth that of George W. Bush. The same people thought that Obama was the second coming of Christ. George Bush is looking better with every move that Obama makes. Maybe it's the Drawl that has you confused.
Exactly.
knkali
08-20-2014, 10:13 PM
I think the guy has bawls that go clang
he stand on the same sides many here do:
border
tough on crime
ccw
constitution
G-d centered
cut the G
Whats not to love?
SlowBurn
08-20-2014, 10:17 PM
George Bush is looking better with every move that Obama makes Hell, even Jimmy Carter is looking better with every move that Obama makes. At least when Carter blew his hostage rescue operation he didn't try to keep it a secret.
But back to the subject, I think Democrats miscalculated bringing this patently absurd indictment. If anything it vindicates Perry's decision to defund the office which is supposed to be about "public integrity" and instead is the opposite - openly used to abuse the criminal court system to take out political opponents. It gives Perry free pub and a chance to look like a fighter. This could be his "Mr. Moderator I paid for that microphone" moment, if he'll take it. Even most liberals are cringing at the charge.
ced_56
08-21-2014, 12:04 AM
I think the guy has bawls that go clang
he stand on the same sides many here do:
border
tough on crime
ccw
constitution
G-d centered
cut the G
Whats not to love?
you don't have to wonder where he stands on an issue that is for sure.
Hell, even Jimmy Carter is looking better with every move that Obama makes. At least when Carter blew his hostage rescue operation he didn't try to keep it a secret.
But back to the subject, I think Democrats miscalculated bringing this patently absurd indictment. If anything it vindicates Perry's decision to defund the office which is supposed to be about "public integrity" and instead is the opposite - openly used to abuse the criminal court system to take out political opponents. It gives Perry free pub and a chance to look like a fighter. This could be his "Mr. Moderator I paid for that microphone" moment, if he'll take it. Even most liberals are cringing at the charge.
I only know of one person that supports this decision and he is so stinking liberal it isn't funny. He's made the comment that he doesn't think conservatives should be allowed to vote....was hilarious when he mom explained to him how stupid he was over that comment.
DavidS
08-21-2014, 12:39 AM
A lot of people thougth that of George W. Bush. The same people thought that Obama was the second coming of Christ. George Bush is looking better with every move that Obama makes. Maybe it's the Drawl that has you confused.
Nope, not the drawl.
muggsy
08-21-2014, 10:11 AM
Nope, not the drawl.
What is it then? Could it be the great economy of Texas, the low unemployment rate, the low tax rate? Tell us DavidS, what exactly makes you think that the man is stupid?
Bawanna
08-21-2014, 10:15 AM
I think the Portugese Water Dog should run. I'd vote for it before Hillary.
muggsy
08-21-2014, 10:22 AM
Governor Perry graduated from Texas A&M with a bachelor of science degree. He served in the U.S. Air force attaining the rank of Captain and was a C130 pilot. He was elected two three terms as governor of the State of Texas. Apparently he is somewhat smarter than a head of lettuce and definitely smarter than a box of rocks.
JohnR
08-21-2014, 12:26 PM
At least we know both Texas governors' backgrounds and job history, and their college history. We can probably see credible copies of their birth certificates, too.
knkali
08-21-2014, 12:42 PM
at least we know both texas governors' backgrounds and job history, and their college history. We can probably see credible copies of their birth certificates, too.
bam!!
marcinstl
08-21-2014, 02:09 PM
lived there for 2 yrs.? if you like fascinating reads, go to the late, great Texas reporter Molly Ivins. she covered and wrote about the interesting side of Texas. here's a quote-- ""As they say around the Texas Legislature, if you can't drink their whiskey, screw their women, take their money, and vote against 'em anyway, you don't belong in office."
Bawanna
08-21-2014, 02:17 PM
I'm writing that down. I want it above the door of the oval office when I'm elected President, or failing that maybe on my Tombstone.
Armybrat
08-21-2014, 02:24 PM
Governor Perry graduated from Texas A&M with a bachelor of science degree. He served in the U.S. Air force attaining the rank of Captain and was a C130 pilot. He was elected two three terms as governor of the State of Texas. Apparently he is somewhat smarter than a head of lettuce and definitely smarter than a box of rocks.
All true except you left out what a poor student he was (some a-hole democrat illegally released his A&M transcripts), and how he switched from the democrat party to republican about 25 years ago.
Also that his rich backers have gotten a lot richer from beneficial state contracts for years. And then there was his dictatorial attempt to require every young Texas girl to get a uterine cancer preventative vaccine. His primary "quality" is being an opportunist who calls himself a republican. Yeah, he's a gun guy, but the Texas State Rifle Association was not very happy with his failure to push for a state open carry law - he was silent on it.
The main reason he kept on getting reelected is the fact that his democrat opponents were worse crooks & skunks than he is and their state democrat party is a bunch of whinyass rats not fit to govern a dog pound.
I haven't voted for him in this century and never will.
But I will say he is light years more preferable as president than any democrat who is in the current crop of their scumbag "leadership", and that includes the Hillbeast. And he would've been 100% better than that worthless "community organizer" infesting the White House right now.
The indictment? It is a stupid ploy by the dirty democrats who defended their drunken alcoholic Travis County DA who should've been fired. Perry's veto of her office's funding was a legal move on his part, but the Austin democrats are trying to parse the "intent" part of the law. Not only are they making themselves look like vindictive little turds (which they are), but they are giving him a boost in his popularity.
Frankly, it has been a huge entertainment for me - and I say that as a good friend of Rick Perry's A&M roommate & Air Force pilot school classmate, plus my wife was a Taylor High School classmate of the drunken Travis County DA in question. This has filled an empty void for me ever since I cancelled our subscription (after 45 years) to the Austin American Statesman newspaper - the local rag - and no longer get to read the Sunday funnies. lol
knkali
08-21-2014, 03:03 PM
All true except you left out what a poor student he was (some a-hole democrat illegally released his A&M transcripts), and how he switched from the democrat party to republican about 25 years ago.
Also that his rich backers have gotten a lot richer from beneficial state contracts for years. And then there was his dictatorial attempt to require every young Texas girl to get a uterine cancer preventative vaccine. His primary "quality" is being an opportunist who calls himself a republican. Yeah, he's a gun guy, but the Texas State Rifle Association was not very happy with his failure to push for a state open carry law - he was silent on it.
The main reason he kept on getting reelected is the fact that his democrat opponents were worse crooks & skunks than he is and their state democrat party is a bunch of whinyass rats not fit to govern a dog pound.
I haven't voted for him in this century and never will.
But I will say he is light years more preferable as president than any democrat who is in the current crop of their scumbag "leadership", and that includes the Hillbeast. And he would've been 100% better than that worthless "community organizer" infesting the White House right now.
The indictment? It is a stupid ploy by the dirty democrats who defended their drunken alcoholic Travis County DA who should've been fired. Perry's veto of her office's funding was a legal move on his part, but the Austin democrats are trying to parse the "intent" part of the law. Not only are they making themselves look like vindictive little turds (which they are), but they are giving him a boost in his popularity.
Frankly, it has been a huge entertainment for me - and I say that as a good friend of Rick Perry's A&M roommate & Air Force pilot school classmate, plus my wife was a Taylor High School classmate of the drunken Travis County DA in question. This has filled an empty void for me ever since I cancelled our subscription (after 45 years) to the Austin American Statesman newspaper - the local rag - and no longer get to read the Sunday funnies. lol
"But I will say he is light years more preferable as president than any democrat who is in the current crop of their scumbag "leadership", and that includes the Hillbeast. And he would've been 100% better than that worthless "community organizer" infesting the White House right now."
That says it all right there. I'll vote for Jesus when he returns to us. Until then its all about damage control.
DavidS
08-21-2014, 04:32 PM
What is it then? Could it be the great economy of Texas, the low unemployment rate, the low tax rate? Tell us DavidS, what exactly makes you think that the man is stupid?
I said I agree with his stance on most things. I also agree with everyone here that he would be better than what we currently have. I do not know the man personally and I am not a Texas resident. What I can only do is make a judgement on what I see.
What I see is his performance on TV, both in the debates and now on the indictments. What I feel is that he is very well scripted but cannot go off script and into detail about any subject because he does not have the capacity/desire to understand the details in depth. Some will say that neither does Obama, but this issue is strictly about Perry, not Obama.
Maybe a box of rocks was a little strong but it best illustrated my opinion. He is far from the brightest bulb in the fixture. What my original intent was it to hope the Republican party can come up with a viable candidate with intelligence and personality and common sense and experience. Not shoot themselves in the foot by nominating someone just because he able to regurgitate all the things the far right says.
O'Dell
08-21-2014, 05:55 PM
I said I agree with his stance on most things. I also agree with everyone here that he would be better than what we currently have. I do not know the man personally and I am not a Texas resident. What I can only do is make a judgement on what I see.
What I see is his performance on TV, both in the debates and now on the indictments. What I feel is that he is very well scripted but cannot go off script and into detail about any subject because he does not have the capacity/desire to understand the details in depth. Some will say that neither does Obama, but this issue is strictly about Perry, not Obama.
Maybe a box of rocks was a little strong but it best illustrated my opinion. He is far from the brightest bulb in the fixture. What my original intent was it to hope the Republican party can come up with a viable candidate with intelligence and personality and common sense and experience. Not shoot themselves in the foot by nominating someone just because he able to regurgitate all the things the far right says.
My thoughts exactly, but of course, ANYBODY would be better than what we have. I just don't want the see the Republicans nominate someone who can't think on his feet and, from the debates, Perry obviously can't. I have the feeling that his 'ideas' are carefully scripted by someone else, and when pushed, he can't defend them. The charge that Bush was stupid faded somewhat when the transcripts from Princeton proved that he had a higher GPA than Gore. I don't think that option is available to Perry.
BTW, being a former Naval Aviator, I don't give that much credit for being an AF pilot. :)
muggsy
08-21-2014, 06:40 PM
My thoughts exactly, but of course, ANYBODY would be better than what we have. I just don't want the see the Republicans nominate someone who can't think on his feet and, from the debates, Perry obviously can't. I have the feeling that his 'ideas' are carefully scripted by someone else, and when pushed, he can't defend them. The charge that Bush was stupid faded somewhat when the transcripts from Princeton proved that he had a higher GPA than Gore. I don't think that option is available to Perry.
BTW, being a former Naval Aviator, I don't give that much credit for being an AF pilot. :)
Being a Navy man myself I have to agree that AF pilots don't compare to Navy Pilots, however it would be tough to land a C130 on the flight deck. As far as how one performs before television cameras, were not voting for an Oscar nominee, were voting for a president. Obama was a Harvard Law School graduate who has yet to release his transcripts. A constitutional scholar who doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment. Perry isn't my first choice, but he's a damn sight better than anything that the democrats have to offer.
Armybrat
08-21-2014, 07:38 PM
Being a Navy man myself I have to agree that AF pilots don't compare to Navy Pilots, however it would be tough to land a C130 on the flight deck. As far as how one performs before television cameras, were not voting for an Oscar nominee, were voting for a president. Obama was a Harvard Law School graduate who has yet to release his transcripts. A constitutional scholar who doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment. Perry isn't my first choice, but he's a damn sight better than anything that the democrats have to offer.
I agree.
O'Dell
08-21-2014, 09:21 PM
Being a Navy man myself I have to agree that AF pilots don't compare to Navy Pilots, however it would be tough to land a C130 on the flight deck. As far as how one performs before television cameras, were not voting for an Oscar nominee, were voting for a president. Obama was a Harvard Law School graduate who has yet to release his transcripts. A constitutional scholar who doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment. Perry isn't my first choice, but he's a damn sight better than anything that the democrats have to offer.
Actually, back when they were evaluating it for a COD [Carrier on board delivery] aircraft, a C-130 made several traps [Maybe the wrong word since it had no hook] and launches from a carrier. Of course, it was an all Navy crew.
Today, if a candidate can't perform on television, he will never be elected and that's my fear with Perry. It makes no difference how well he might handle the job, if he never gets the chance. I don't think the Country can survive another Obama. The Republicans must provide a candidate that can be elected by the uninformed [m]asses.
You'll get no argument from me about the shortcomings of Obama or any other Democrat that's currently in the picture.
DavidS
08-21-2014, 09:52 PM
Today, if a candidate can't perform on television, he will never be elected and that's my fear with Perry. It makes no difference how well he might handle the job, if he never gets the chance. I don't think the Country can survive another Obama. The Republicans must provide a candidate that can be elected by the uninformed [m]asses.
That, stated in better logic, is why I said I hoped he would not the the Republican nominee.
Planedude
08-21-2014, 11:35 PM
Actually, back when they were evaluating it for a COD [Carrier on board delivery] aircraft, a C-130 made several traps [Maybe the wrong word since it had no hook] and launches from a carrier. Of course, it was an all Navy crew.
Today, if a candidate can't perform on television, he will never be elected and that's my fear with Perry. It makes no difference how well he might handle the job, if he never gets the chance. I don't think the Country can survive another Obama. The Republicans must provide a candidate that can be elected by the uninformed [m]asses.
You'll get no argument from me about the shortcomings of Obama or any other Democrat that's currently in the picture.
I am a Texas resident and I have met with Perry on two different occasions. I will admit that my impression of Governor Perry is best summed up in two (for some unflattering) words, "Consummate politician". It kind of oozes out his pores when your around him. Next let me say the second amendment has no truer friend in the race than Perry. Someone may turn up his equal, but no one will beat him as a supporter on 2A. That really seems to come from his heart and soul, if you are a one issue (2A) voter, Ricks going to be your guy. His faults lie down other paths and we Texans have witness a few of Perry's blunders over the years. His call for mandatory immunizations for all middle school aged girls for STDs comes quickest to mind...
...Way to stomp parental toes there Rick!
With that said, the charges against him are ridiculous at best. Local TV stations have been playing demi sound bites from across the state. Silly, shrill and nonsensical would be how I describe them. My favorite was the state demi chair who pointed as "proof" the fact that two other state officials had been stopped for DWI without a peep from the Gov's office. He then attacked Gov Perry's actions related to the Travis county DA as "character assassination". It seems to me that the drunken DA's screaming, kicking and cussing arrest video dose the assassination all by itself. The other two officials have nothing like that showing up on YouTube and they eventually accepted responsibility for their actions.
Is it okay if I'm already bored to death of this circus? Out with the Elephants and Jackasses, time to bring on the clowns! Oh wait, there already here...
BTW, this week is the 60th anniversary of the C-130 programs first flight, so photos of the carrier opps on the old "Forest fire" (CV59) abound. Have a good one!
knkali
08-22-2014, 11:42 AM
sorry Navy but the best fighter jocks are going to come from the AF. They spend more time flying then practicing take offs and landings. The AF also has twice as many pilots than the Navy so just on numbers alone the probability of finding the best is twice as likely in the AF. Cannot argue with the facts.
Flame suit on..................bring it.
Bawanna
08-22-2014, 12:28 PM
I can't argue with you Wright Brothers supporters, I always wanted to be a Marine myself. Although I had a strong desire to do a carrier take off for a long time. Not land though. And that desire has pretty much diminished with time.
DavidS
08-22-2014, 02:25 PM
Carrier take-off and landing. Really would have liked to have done that. But, back in the day, I had no real interest in being a pilot so I chose a different route. Looking back though, REO might have been as interesting as what I chose.
DavidS
08-22-2014, 02:27 PM
Speaking of pilots, my boss at one duty station was an A7 pilot. One of my peers was a helicopter pilot. The boss often said:
"Helicopter pilots are crazy. They will fly anything, including the box it came in." :)
O'Dell
08-22-2014, 04:15 PM
sorry Navy but the best fighter jocks are going to come from the AF. They spend more time flying then practicing take offs and landings. The AF also has twice as many pilots than the Navy so just on numbers alone the probability of finding the best is twice as likely in the AF. Cannot argue with the facts.
Flame suit on..................bring it.
The fact is that the Naval Aviators are universally acknowledged as the best. I agree - you can't argue with that.
Bawanna
08-22-2014, 04:25 PM
Don't make me come down there and separate you two.
The fact is that the Naval Aviators are universally acknowledged as the best. I agree - you can't argue with that.
Assuming that Naval includes Marine pilots, got's no argument with that at all.
Armybrat
08-22-2014, 08:17 PM
Old feller a few doors down from us passed away a couple years ago - he flew a light spotter plane in the Vietnam War. Must've taken cojones the size of basketballs to do that.
RIP John.
O'Dell
08-22-2014, 09:38 PM
Assuming that Naval includes Marine pilots, got's no argument with that at all.
It certainly does. They train at Pensacola just like the rest of us and they fly the same aircraft. They are also carrier trained and Marine Squadrons cycle on and off carriers. There are usually one or two Marine Aviators in the Blue Angels.
There was a story going around when I was in Southeast Asia about a North Vietnamese pilot that claimed he had been shot down by a US AF, Navy, and Marine jet. He said he hoped the US Coast Guard didn't also fly F-4's.
O'Dell
08-23-2014, 01:45 AM
Thanks for the photos, Cato. You know, I really envy those guys with their F-8's. I drove the F-4B and F-4J, but I always wished that I had chosen the F-8. As you probably know it was called the 'last gunfighter', and I would have loved to have those four Mk12's. The Navy versions of the F-4 never had a gun, and there were times when one would have come in handy. They could also carry four AIM 9's, and believe me, I would have traded my four AIM 7's for the four 20's any day. The Sparrows never worked as advertised anyway. The F-8 wasn't as powerful, but it had another thing that we needed against the 17, 19, and 21, agility. Plus I could have ditched the GIB, and that would be a big bonus.
Now what do you need concerning your PM9. I've had seven Kahrs over the years and still have a PM9, MK40, and CW45. I've never had any problems with any of them, but if I can't help, someone else can.
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