Bows and guns(Gary B's fault)

[knkali]

Guys, I am sorry but I think I like bows more than guns. There I feel better now.:rolleyes:

Anyone else have a penchant for putting an arrow on the mark(trying to) at 50 yrds?

[muggsy]

I can hit the mark consistently at 40 yards with my crossbow. Does that count?

[Bawanna]

I used to be a devout bow hunter/shooter. 40 to 45 was about my personally set limit.

It was fun and I do find myself sometimes wanting to get back into it.

It's like sex you can do it almost anywhere, no disruption like gun blast. Peaceful and quiet as long as you don't miss and hit the neighbors house etc.

If there is a downfall to it, it's that with places to shoot and ammo shortages and politicians more and more are getting into it.

I know in our state they changed from being able to hunt all seasons you had to pick your weapon. If you hunt rifle you couldn't hunt bow etc. Bow season used to be a much better and much longer season so alot of the drunk pieces of garbage bought bows which made it a little scary.

[b4uqzme]

Yes, I still feel that itch but I'm intentionally dragging my feet. Too many hobbies...not enough time and money. Keep us posted so maybe I can live vicariously through you for the time being. :rolleyes:

[DavidS]

One of the things I plan to do some day. Not for hunting, but would like to spend a little time learning to shoot a bow.

[knkali]

One of the things I plan to do some day. Not for hunting, but would like to spend a little time learning to shoot a bow.

Do it...its a hoot

[Bill K]

Yes, as far as the shooting sports go archery has been and still is my first love. I'll shoot primitive, trad, modern and crossbow. My last deer was taken with my crossbow. Lately I've been messing around with an older Hoyt compound bow to see if I can get proficient enough with it to use barebow 3D and hunting. Starting to have some success but thought I'd be further along considering the time I've invested. Something about drawing through the peak poundage and settling into the let-off throws me off my game.

[knkali]

how does 3D work? What are the rules?

[DavidS]

Do it...its a hoot
I'm kinda like b4, too many irons in the fire right now. Gave up fishing to run gun dogs. Gave up gun dog competition to golf. Maybe when we downsize a little I can give up something less fun like mowing and take up bow shooting.

[340pd]

My Chill X at the range this morning.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/a70fba21-3ac5-45c2-9a20-4f3a8a0075bb_zps824b4a63.jpg

[knkali]

My Chill X at the range this morning.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/a70fba21-3ac5-45c2-9a20-4f3a8a0075bb_zps824b4a63.jpg

is that cable guide after market? Rollers seems to make sense for a smother draw and release.

[Bawanna]

Can you imagine what Robinhood or Red Cloud would think if they saw that thing.

The technology changes since I was in it knocks me plumb over.

[knkali]

yeah my rig is at approx. 320 FPS...that is fast IMHO. Trying to decide if I "need" a fall away arrow rest or not to replace my whisker biskit (I think that is how it is spelled)

I love the Pigman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbefCoY71Os

[340pd]

is that cable guide after market? Rollers seems to make sense for a smother draw and release.

The roller guides are stock with that bow. This started just over a year ago with a $90 compound for my grandson. Three additional bows, one to cover the other grandson, myself twice, and a ton of accessories.

Lots of good people in this sport.

I am enjoying walking downrange picking up, and reusing my ammunition.

[JustinN]

I love my bow and hunting with it! I use a Hoyt Rampage XT (now called the Charger in hoyt's lineup).

I would definitely get a drop away rest. It'll give a truer shot AND won't tear up your fletches like a whisker biscuit!

[340pd]

Regardless of what kind of drop away you choose, have someone that knows what they are doing install it. They are great when they are installed properly, terrible when they are not. Your whisker biscuit has no moving parts and for hunting that is a good thing.

[Bawanna]

That's the thing many have to remember. Big difference between target gaming bow and a hunting bow.

Also even with this technology 40 or 50 yards would be my outer range limit.

Less moving parts and less of everything for me. No release, use a finger tab, no balance beams, pin sights, a decent rest and call it ready to go.

[knkali]

[QUOTE=Bawanna;315473]That's the thing many have to remember. Big difference between target gaming bow and a hunting bow.

I have been shooting with a long bow enthusiast and he said going to a compound is "going to the dark side"

[knkali]

we should have a knife and bow sub forum....just say'n

[Bawanna]

[QUOTE=Bawanna;315473]That's the thing many have to remember. Big difference between target gaming bow and a hunting bow.

I have been shooting with a long bow enthusiast and he said going to a compound is "going to the dark side"

I had to hang up long bow, my upper back and neck couldn't handle it. 50% let off is a wonderful thing, I'm just to behind times for all this new fangled stuff ya know.

[knkali]

[QUOTE=knkali;315475]

I had to hang up long bow, my upper back and neck couldn't handle it. 50% let off is a wonderful thing, I'm just to behind times for all this new fangled stuff ya know.

I think most bows are in the 70%+ let off range....even better. Maybe its time to pick one up?

[Bawanna]

Maybe so. Spread kind of thin for hobby time and even more so hobby money but the seed is planted.

[pwilson]

bow shooting is awesome. my little 14 year old brother in law loves putting me in my place outshooting me with his bow... nothing like the first time you limp wrist it and the string slaps your arm...lol

[garyb]

I'm with ya Knkali. It's that time of year here in upstate NY....preparation for the archery deer season. I shoot twice a day. Sometimes only 1 or 2 arrows and sometimes 28 arrows on my 3D course. 3D is simply 3 dimensional animals set up in the woods at varying distances...deer, bear, pigs, coyotes, bobcats, turkey, etc.... Distances are from 20-50 yrds and are odd distances....22, 37, 43, etc... nothing established or standard. Mix things up so much that you are confused....up hill, down hill, cross hill, over ravines, tunnel type shots, shots with a stump appearing to be in the way, shots from a tree stand, etc.... All fun, challenging practice. The objective is to make the course tough and challenging to stretch your ability, so the deer hunting shots you will encounter will seem easier to you...boost your confidence. Fling arrows and get ready. If you stand at 20 yards all day, you WILL develop shooting problems which will be difficult to correct.

As for the problem with injuring your upper back from shooting...this is a real issue. Howard Hill discusses this in his books. Correct form is essential, especially with traditional archery. I had the same problem Bawanna and I had to go to a compound bow to resume archery. The recurve and long bow can cause back problems if you don't have good form.

As for the new compounds out there....they are great. Most common are the 75% to 85% let off bows. That Mathews Chill is a nice bow....as are all the Mathews bows. My MQ1 Mathews is 15 yrs old and guaranteed for life. I may be retiring it next year, but hope to get this season and maybe next bow season out of it. I like the new Mathews bows, but am waiting for something special to come out.

Archery is a blast. It is my private time and quiet time alone. No yahoos out there. Bow hunters are serious hunters who know the peace and excitement of hunting alone. It would suit me just fine if there were only a bow season. But I do enjoy hanging up my bow at the end of bow season and picking up my gun to get back out in the woods. It's all good stuff. We all need to stick together as brothers and sisters against the anti's.

[garyb]

bow shooting is awesome. my little 14 year old brother in law loves putting me in my place outshooting me with his bow... nothing like the first time you limp wrist it and the string slaps your arm...lol

Funny. I never heard of limp wristing with a bow. The reality is that it is not your wrist causing you to slap your arm. It is how you turn your elbow. If your elbow is ever so slightly bent to the side, you will not slap your arm. If you have your elbow in a locked position if when relaxed it bends downward, that's how you end up slapping your arm. Also, some of the new bows have a very low fistmele or brace height (less than 7") - the distance from the string to the inner most grip on the riser. This also "contributes" to ( but is not the cause for) slapping your bow arm with the string. Manufacturers go to a low brace height because it increases velocity, but reduces stability. Some guys shoot a low brace height just fine, because they understand body mechanics and how to position their bow arm. However, lower brace heights can be more of a problem with lots of hunting clothes on, by increasing material on your bow arm. Wise to use some form of an arm guard or clothing restrainer like an arm sock to keep your coat compressed on your bow arm, so the bow string does not slap the coat. That will cause arrow flight problems, velocity reduction, etc.... Nuff said?