Ray Rice--Big Man

[knkali]

What a jack hole mutant:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tmz-releases-footage-of-ray-rice-punching-wife-124132772.html

[Bawanna]

Should be a life time ban and a few years for DV Assault. Caught on tape.

Guess she married the jerk after this incident.

[Longitude Zero]

Somebody needs to shoot that mongrel subhumanoid square in his ugly face.

[downtownv]

Sh!tbag, knock dumbtwot out, and she married him, like a real cave man!

[jocko]

yup he's a big man on campus, and to get around this sh!t, he married the b***h to. They borth deserve each utter. Hell Bawanna, caught on tape means jack sh!t, just ask BROWN'S ATTGORNEY.

[Bawanna]

Somebody needs to shoot that mongrel subhumanoid square in his ugly face.

I was gonna offer to do just that but I'm trying to lose the distasteful reputation although I still am a firm believer in the appropriate situations.

[TheLastDaze]

I'm afraid I would have done something as a bystander, I just can't tolerate this behavior even from a stranger.... sends me over the edge, what a pu**y, don't get me started on the exhaustive salary of the glorified ghetto we call Pro (enter your sport here)....

[swilcher7]

Breaking news:: Rice's contract terminated by the Ravens and NFL announced an indefinite suspension...

[swilcher7]

Oh and NO ONE deserves to get over then they do this crap!!! NO matter what the color of their skin...Didn't take long for that to enter here!!

[knkali]

as it should be

[jocko]

good for you,

Glad to see the Ravens, ha dthe balls to let him go. Proud of them. Hell the judicial system basically did nuttin, b ut now the RAVENS are getting into his dollar pocket bigt time. Be interesting to see who picks the pr!ck up. Just sayin

[ltxi]

Ugly that is.

[downtownv]

good for you,

Glad to see the Ravens, ha dthe balls to let him go. Proud of them. Hell the judicial system basically did nuttin, b ut now the RAVENS are getting into his dollar pocket bigt time. Be interesting to see who picks the pr!ck up. Just sayin

NFL Suspended him INDEFINITELY he's done!
How long before his puching bag divorces him, now that the big money is gone?

[Bawanna]

Lets leave the race card muddy boots at the door folks. I've deleted some comments.

[hardknocks1]

Two peas in a pod!

[downtownv]

What a hit!
Now the world gets to see her unconscience Cucci.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

[b4uqzme]

Pro sports can do what they want and they can pay the thugs whatever they want...all I know is they get NONE of my money. I won't even go to a game when the ticket is free.

Ignore 'em. Just sayin'.

[b4uqzme]

Hey, I won my fantasy football game this weekend. :rolleyes:

[deadeye]

Why is everybody agog when "pro sports" people make a$$'s of them selves. Love pro sports and hate Hollywood? Please someone, tell me what is the difference???? They are all a bunch of clowns.

[b4uqzme]

Why is everybody agog when "pro sports" people make a$$'s of them selves. Love pro sports and hate Hollywood? Please someone, tell me what is the difference???? They are all a bunch of clowns.

Agreed! I'm an equal opportunity a$$hole hater... You won't find me in a movie theater OR a sports arena. I'll stick with Andy Taylor reruns for my entertainment dollar.

[SlowBurn]

It's hard to watch but substantively the video adds nothing. Nobody thought she fainted. It was admitted domestic violence. Should have been handled more severely before, but the reactions now.. like before we saw it on TV it didn't happen?

But I never thought about cameras in Revel's elevator before. My wife and I stayed there a last spring, sort of second honeymooning. There were couple of times on the elevator…

[knkali]

It's hard to watch but really the video adds nothing. Nobody thought she fainted. It was admitted domestic violence, so what changed?

But I never thought about cameras in Revel's elevator before. My wife and I stayed there a last year, sort of second honeymooning. There were couple of times on the elevator…
Duuude....right on but there are kids present here. TMI!!!:p:D:cool:

[Bawanna]

It's hard to watch but substantively the video adds nothing. Nobody thought she fainted. It was admitted domestic violence. Should have been handled more severely before, but the reactions now.. like before we saw it on TV it didn't happen?

But I never thought about cameras in Revel's elevator before. My wife and I stayed there a last spring, sort of second honeymooning. There were couple of times on the elevator…

Couple times on the elevator, what? What a couple times. I hate unfinished stories. Especially unfinished stories with no pictures.
Wait! Maybe I'll get hold of Revel and get the tapes. I'm sure they save the best stuff.

Whatever that is.

[TheLastDaze]

But I never thought about cameras in Revel's elevator before. My wife and I stayed there a last spring, sort of second honeymooning. There were couple of times on the elevator…

maybe just maybe your tape will spin into another thread here.....

[marcinstl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLsg5Nwy8eU
domestic violence, drunk afternoon boxing? notice the cops driving by.

[deadeye]

Couple times on the elevator, what? What a couple times. I hate unfinished stories. Especially unfinished stories with no pictures.
Wait! Maybe I'll get hold of Revel and get the tapes. I'm sure they save the best stuff.

Whatever that is.

If you don't have any luck with Revel contact NSA. I'll bet they have a copy!

[muggsy]

After a review of the play the ruling on the field will be over turned. It was obvious to me that his girl friend was attempting to assault him on the elevator and he was simply defending himself. It was a single righteous shot to the head with his left. Evidently she knew that she was in the wrong, because she didn't press charges and married the S.O.B. anyway. Either that or she's looking for a big cash settlement when they divorce. He certainly ain't no choirboy. Who really gives a damn? :)

[SlowBurn]

Couple times on the elevator, what? What a couple times. I hate unfinished stories. Especially unfinished stories with no pictures.
Wait! Maybe I'll get hold of Revel and get the tapes. I'm sure they save the best stuff.

Whatever that is.

Place is closed, sad to say.
With NFL stars staying there, I doubt anything with us in it would be "collectible" anyway except maybe for an adult version of America's funniest videos.

[muggsy]

What good does it do to deny a man his livelihood for a moments indiscretion. In a month he'll be on welfare and you'll be supporting his behind. If he falls further from grace he may end up in prison and that will really cost us. Who among us hasn't lost his or her temper momentarily. Let those among you who are without sin cast the first stone. Whatever happened to the spirit of forgiveness, the concept of a second chance. I love football and all of its mayhem. Go Browns. :)

[b4uqzme]

^^^ a little tongue in your cheek there muggs? ;)

[muggsy]

Well implanted, b4uqzme. :)

[TheLastDaze]

LOL... sick and twisted....

[marshal kane]

He'll be back, just not this season. Mark my words. Michael Vick made it back by showing contrition and performing public service. So will Rice. The Ravens have just invested too much money in him to cut him permanently. IMO, there's almost NO reason why a man should ever assault a woman. Just my two cents.

[getsome]

Two words, Da Raidaaaas...The team that says if you don't have a prison record you can't play.......

[muggsy]

Ok, so maybe a ten yard penalty for unnecessary roughness. Who among us hasn't had the urge to deck the old lady at least once in their lifetime? He did show her the courtesy of dragging her back to the room. I mean he could have left her in the elevator. Lets show a little compassion fellas. After all it was his first offense. She forgave him. Why can't you? Hell, Jim Brown threw a woman out of a window and he's in the Hall of Fame. This was just a love tap. :)

[SlowBurn]

Ok, so maybe a ten yard penalty for unnecessary roughness. Who among us hasn't had the urge to deck the old lady at least once in their lifetime? He did show her the courtesy of dragging her back to the room. I mean he could have left her in the elevator. Lets show a little compassion fellas. After all it was his first offense. She forgave him. Why can't you? Hell, Jim Brown threw a woman out of a window and he's in the Hall of Fame. This was just a love tap. :)
Good point. Lets be fair. Its not like he stabbed her to pieces and murdered her waiter for good measure. OJ is also still in the Hall of Fame.

[knkali]

Ok, so maybe a ten yard penalty for unnecessary roughness. Who among us hasn't had the urge to deck the old lady at least once in their lifetime? He did show her the courtesy of dragging her back to the room. I mean he could have left her in the elevator. Lets show a little compassion fellas. After all it was his first offense. She forgave him. Why can't you? Hell, Jim Brown threw a woman out of a window and he's in the Hall of Fame. This was just a love tap. :)
I thought your first post on this was more spot on. Let him play in Canada. Maybe the Canadians can teach him impulse control.

[jocko]

well I have yet tos ee a photo yet of that ugly ass wife of his with a smile on her face. Surely no one hear thinks this is his first time of pounding a woman.. Screw him and her, let them live as downcasts for even fat ass Al shparpton ain't gona defend this mess. to much film footage . My betis he cannot even count to ten backwards. But give him the fooball and watch me make a toedown ...Just sayin

[jocko]

I would not bet against that statement either. Its all about money. Just sayin

[cohoskip]

Rice's contract terminated by the Ravens and NFL announced an indefinite suspension...

He should be suspended indefinitely from the human race...

[muggsy]

He loses his job. She loses his income. You guys who think he deserves to lose his job just ***** slapped her again. She's being punished for what he did. Just sayin. Can't we all just get along?

[knkali]

He loses his job. She loses his income. You guys who think he deserves to lose his job just ***** slapped her again. She's being punished for what he did. Just sayin. Can't we all just get along?
Muggs....you ok? you feeling right? Did aliens abduct my friend?

[Bawanna]

Sounds normble enough to me. I think the aliens are hovering over Jocko's sheep herd. Research I reckon.

[jocko]

sounds like u feel sorry for the b***h. Muggs.. She only married him toget the charges reduced, so she would not have to testify. Hell he had a kid by her, why didn't the slug marry her back then if he luved her so much. Naw she is no better than he is, for sticking around with him. Its all about the money for her to, . U watch, she will drop him as soon as the money runs out

[DavidS]

He loses his job. She loses his income. You guys who think he deserves to lose his job just ***** slapped her again. She's being punished for what he did. Just sayin. Can't we all just get along?
She chose him. Would she say the same thing if he had knocked out the lady down the street? That is not much different than punching her out.

[muggsy]

He didn't knock out the lady down the street. We have no information as to what led up to the altercation. There was no sound on the video to hear what was said. We're judging his actions on a video tape alone. Were there any previous examples of abuse? I'm not one to rush to judgement. I like to have all of the facts and I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I have no dog in this fight and neither do the rest of you. I wonder if the Brown's could pick him up on waivers? :)

[muggsy]

What you may not have heard about Ray Rice.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2010/5/19/1479729/ray-rices-amazing-story

[knkali]

What you may not have heard about Ray Rice.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2010/5/19/1479729/ray-rices-amazing-story

Muggs....have you ever knocked out a woman? What would a woman have to do to make you feel the only thing you can do is knock her *** out? I am being serious here.

Oh the article was a great story but if a guy that was all this and that raped my child, he would automatically be a POS. His past means nothing to me.

[DavidS]

Do not think they are hurting for money. Lost his Nike endorsement but seems he gets to keep his $25 million NFL signing bonus. No pity for him or her.

[swilcher7]

As I have past dealings with domestic violence victims, this may not, I repeat MAY NOT have been the first time something like this occurred with him. I once had a victim whose boyfriend broke her arm after beating the **** out of her. She was asked why she continued to stay with the dirtbag. Her response was "because he loves me." And this was not the first time I had dealt with this victim/abuser. Bottom line is this is WRONG on so many levels. Seems our society loves to put these guys on a pedestal, and that they can do no wrong. And we all know that if this was Joe Citizen, he would be under a jail somewhere.

[TheLastDaze]

^^^ good post.....

I have no professional opinion but my own, seems to me abusers like that seek the weak minded, and they themselves are a magnet for those physically/mentally abused previously in life....

How can a woman feel that being knock around like a rag doll is an affectionate way of saying "I Love You" so much that I'm willing to put myself out and beat you senseless? repeatedly.....

[swilcher7]

A bit more info on my previous post. I once had the same victims father call me after said dirtbag beat his girlfriend. He BEGGED me to talk to his daughter to try to get her to come home and get away from him. I told him I would try, which I did do. Also, the County Detective who assisted tried to talk some sense into her, to no avail. She then stood in front of the judge and told him she refused to testify against him!!! Even after he broke her arm....So guess what, charges were dismissed!! No victim, no crime!!! I don't understand how you consider a man kicking your ass everyday as LOVE!!!

[swilcher7]

And there in lies part of the problem. A victim can come into a court room beat to hell and back, arm in a cast, face swollen, etc, and tell a judge I'm not going to testify against my attacker. The court system has no choice but to dismiss the charges. Our laws need to change in that photos of the injuries, the police/hospital reports, witness statements, etc, can be enough to proceed in charges these clowns. You may not hear too much of it, but it happens ALOT!!! If victim refuses to testify, charges go bye bye..

[TheLastDaze]

And there in lies part of the problem. A victim can come into a court room beat to hell and back, arm in a cast, face swollen, etc, and tell a judge I'm not going to testify against my attacker. The court system has no choice but to dismiss the charges. Our laws need to change in that photos of the injuries, the police/hospital reports, witness statements, etc, can be enough to proceed in charges these clowns. You may not hear too much of it, but it happens ALOT!!! If victim refuses to testify, charges go bye bye..

agree wholeheartedly... something should change, just doesn't seem right especially when you have eye witness' available.. If the law was written different I'm sure there would be a lot of people alive today to thank them for the change....

You rob someones house and even though they 'choose' not to press charges, the DA and the state charge you regardless..

Either way you stack it, do the crime you 'should' do the time...

[knkali]

NO. That line of reasoning opens the door to a complete police state. You have the right to determine if you have been wronged. If I do not want to press charges then I am saying to the court that no crime against me has been committed. This is self governing at is most basic level.

[swilcher7]

How is that leading to a police state? Our domestic violence law clearly states if certain crimes have been committed (ie: assault) and you see visible injuries on said victim you MUST make an arrest. That's black letter law. But in the same sense the victim can come to court with evidence of injuries still present, say I don't want to testify, and the case will he dismissed, and they are a happy couple again. But if the next time the abuser beats and kills victim, then it's law enforcements/ courts fault that he was let go..... That's what's wrong here. If you have to arrest said abuser? Than he should do the time for his crime..,

[knkali]

when the authorities determine if a crime has been committed against a victim even when the victim says it has not then you have slipped further into a police state. The State has then been given all the power and control---you are now a subject not a citizen. What's next, a knock on your door and you are arrested for a crime you did not commit but the authorities say you did? See how this can become a slippery slope. When we try to "fix" everything for everybody all the time, it comes at a price. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.

Domestic violence is horrible. There are a myriad of reasons why people continue to subject themselves to it over and over. I cannot fix that nor will I give up my liberty of determining if I have been wronged or not and give up that determination to a third party to decide. If I have been wronged, I speak for myself. Of course this conversation is only pertaining to adults.

[Bawanna]

All the times the wife beat me down, the mental and verbal abuse, I don't know why I just stay and take it.

I feel like a door mat.

What makes me happy is around here quite often its the violet that gets arrested. Never used to happen.
We have frequent fliers, cops know them well, wife hits husband and then calls saying he hit her but the evidence never seems to stack up and off she goes. I give a big hurrah when I see those.

Equal rights for MEN and half men now! I'm burning my underbritches, join me.

[swilcher7]

I disagree. Had a local case here where female called 911 on cell phone while being abused residence. Police show up and abuser refuses to let them in and says everything is ok. They made no attempt to contact caller. They leave and a few days later she is found dead in residence.. That was a failure on many levels!! I for one an not paranoid with the police doing their jobs.. Some of our laws need major revision. I'm don't want to go off topic here. This is about finest I violence not us becoming a police state.

[SlowBurn]

Criminal cases are not the same as private lawsuits. Crimes are prosecuted not directly because of the victim, but to protect everybody. If the victim wants to prosecute but the authorities decide not to for any of a host of reasons, the case is not prosecuted. You can sue for damages in civil court, but you cannot hire your own prosecutor to bring the case in criminal court and put the defendant in jeopardy of criminal punishment such as prison. Conversely if the victim doesn't want to go forward but the authorities decide the case should be pursued anyway, that's what does (and should) happen. Its always been that way in this country.

As a practical matter, the victim is usually cooperative and the prosecutor might not be able to proceed without her willing testimony. In domestic violence cases that is frequently not the case for many reasons including love and intimidation, but its important to go after those cases anyway when possible. They are very dangerous for everybody, especially the police, and the authorities should not just let it go just because the victim says she prefers that.

[Longitude Zero]

And there in lies part of the problem. A victim can come into a court room beat to hell and back, arm in a cast, face swollen, etc, and tell a judge I'm not going to testify against my attacker. The court system has no choice but to dismiss the charges. Our laws need to change in that photos of the injuries, the police/hospital reports, witness statements, etc, can be enough to proceed in charges these clowns. You may not hear too much of it, but it happens ALOT!!! If victim refuses to testify, charges go bye bye..

Not everywhere. Here in OK the Domestic Abuse Statutes take the victim completely out of the picture. If the responding officer can detect an injury "no matter how slight" the suspect "must" be arrested. We get dang near all persons so arrested are convicted based upon the officers testimony and photographs alone. No victims is needed or wanted to prosecute the case.

[swilcher7]

Good!!! I wish it was like that here. I know each state has different laws. Most of the cases, no the majority of the cases were the same people all the time. Even though you pretty much knew what the outcome is gonna be, you still have a job to do. That's where I think some people talk out both sides of mouth. Certain situations they want police to do job and support them, while other times the don't want them too and are against them...

[Longitude Zero]

swilcher7 sadly there is a great amount of repeat business here. We call them Frequent Flyers or Old Friends. Unless the cycle is broken ALL domestic violence eventually leads to homicide of one of the parties by the other.

[Bawanna]

The sad part is the victim frequently is so financially dependent for themselves and any children that they don't feel they have a choice to leave. They take the beating for the money and usually only a limited amount at that. Food and shelter at the cost of being a punching bag.

Here we're much like LZ mentioned. If there's obvious signs of injuries an arrest is mandatory. After that basically the officer can be the complainant and can possibly go to court without the victim. Still the punishment generally isn't enough and not enough protection for the victim after the fact.
Things are improving slowly. Now it's common if requested for the victim to be notified that the abuser is getting released. Usually a protection order is almost a given which may or may not do any good.

[swilcher7]

Yes sir....I am well aware of the frequent fliers!!! Dealt with quite a few in my law enforcement and ems time. I totally agree, homicide is usually the end result of these issues. We even explained this to the victims, to no avail. I just watched on our local news here that a guy shot at his former girlfriends new boyfriend. He missed, then turned the gun on her, but didn't fire. He then was found in his apartment with self inflicted GSW, and still alive. That seems to be the norm anymore. If I can't have you then no one can...Myself, in some cases I believe if you're found guilty in certain crimes (murder, crimes against children, rape, etc) you should receive the same thing done to you as you did to your victims..But we know that will never happen...

[swilcher7]

Protection orders aren't worth paper they are printed on. A majority of the time it's the plaintiff who violates the order by letting abuser back into their life. But, if they get into it again, said defendant on order goes to jail because of the order. Also there are times where protection orders have been used just to get back at someone. IE: someone leaves for another person, on going custody battle, etc.

[b4uqzme]

....
But I never thought about cameras in Revel's elevator before. My wife and I stayed there a last spring, sort of second honeymooning. There were couple of times on the elevator…

A couple times? How long were you there? A month? :o

[ltxi]

I'll give Rice this....she was pissed about something, charged/attacked him, and spit on him. He reacted. Nonetheless....

[Bawanna]

It's just like stupid selfish people. You really want to remove them from the gene pool and the world would be a better place if you did but it's still illegal.

[muggsy]

I've never punched a woman out, but I did slapped one once after she bounced a set of car and house keys off of my forehead. It was a reflex reaction and the only incident of violence by either party in more than 43 years of marriage. I guess that I could be considered a POS, too.

[swilcher7]

Just saw that security at the hotel were interviewed. Report was, and you can see if you look closely at the video, is that Rice spit in his wife's face first, and she responded by what looks like an attempt to slap him. They get in the elevator and again he spits in her face while she is attempting to push button on panel. She then runs towards him and the knockout blow occurs. After he drags her out, you see a security officer come over, and Rice tells him she is drunk. She awakes, and says how could you do this to me, I'm the mother of your child. Then Rice makes a cell phone call and states "I'm getting arrested tonight." Also, the security officer watching the video is yelling over the radio to the other officer to "get him away from her." Rice is built like a tank, there is no excuse for this!! Again, this is what is being reported today. NFL owners now hired former FBI Director to conduct investigation in Goodell (yeah right). We'll see....

[knkali]

Just saw that security at the hotel were interviewed. Report was, and you can see if you look closely at the video, is that Rice spit in his wife's face first, and she responded by what looks like an attempt to slap him. They get in the elevator and again he spits in her face while she is attempting to push button on panel. She then runs towards him and the knockout blow occurs. After he drags her out, you see a security officer come over, and Rice tells him she is drunk. She awakes, and says how could you do this to me, I'm the mother of your child. Then Rice makes a cell phone call and states "I'm getting arrested tonight." Also, the security officer watching the video is yelling over the radio to the other officer to "get him away from her." Rice is built like a tank, there is no excuse for this!! Again, this is what is being reported today. NFL owners now hired former FBI Director to conduct investigation in Goodell (yeah right). We'll see....
More evidence that the guy is a POS. He is a guy who makes a living playing a game. He is getting way too much attention.

[downtownv]

Goodell's days are severely numbered!
Today they reported he DID see this full version of the tape!

[swilcher7]

They need to do some major house cleaning. They have a few players now that were convicted of domestic violence. The team owners are saying, "we are waiting to see what happens in the appeals process." Well if you don't want to can them, suspend them until they have their appeal. This is the problem. Different types of punishments for different players. And all this occurred under Goodell's watch.

[knkali]

show me the money............that's all its about.

[jocko]

I find it so strange that these SLUGS (ray and Janady) ow have found religion. I never knew it was ever lost. Just sayin

I feel Goodall days are numered also but he wont go easy with 40 million a year salary behid him, he will do all he can to prevail..

[downtownv]

I find it so strange that these SLUGS (ray and Janady) ow have found religion. I never knew it was ever lost. Just sayin

I feel Goodall days are numered also but he wont go easy with 40 million a year salary behid him, he will do all he can to prevail..

TOAST Baby!

[DavidS]

show me the money............that's all its about.
Agreed. Saw a news report last week about public money funding new NFL stadiums. It is very commonplace. Analysis shows that cities funding the stadiums with public taxes and funds do not receive the economic benefits as promised by the NFL and city leaders. However, the NFL makes out like bandits. (Yes, I selected that term on purpose)