comrades old 9mm

[marcinstl]

here's a soviet joke-- back in the 1930's Fedor Tokarov designed a single action pistol with a barrel bushing and a barrel link, this was the gun John Browning copied to build the 1911. anyway, the new ones are 9mm, not the original 7.65x25, and to import them they added a thumb safety. blued steel, nothing fancy or tactical, probably requires a 25cent trigger job. if you don't like Austrian grip angles, look at this. http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=HG3182-N
I'm thinking it's a cheap winter project gun for messing around with. anybody have one?

[CJB]

"butter smooth thumb safety" - which is yellow journalism speak for "the safety has no click detents, either on, or off"

[Bawanna]

I can't see what it sells for? I like the looks of it. If the price was decent enough I'd probably grab one just cause I like different weird stuff.

I don't shoot 9 much but don't mind having a few around.

[gb6491]

I had a Norinco 213 (Chinese made TT-33 clone in 9mm with an add-on safety). It was reliable and accurate (despite having a heavy trigger).
I should have kept it.
http://i57.tinypic.com/13ymc84.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[yqtszhj]

Greg has good pictures of everything. Is that clip looking thing on the side for tearing it down?

[kenemoore]

Greg has good pictures of everything. Is that clip looking thing on the side for tearing it down?
Yes, the clip (sort of looks like the clip on a chain master link) has to be removed before the slide release can be pushed through the frame.

[marcinstl]

I had a Norinco 213 (Chinese made TT-33 clone in 9mm with an add-on safety). It was reliable and accurate (despite having a heavy trigger).
I should have kept it.
http://i57.tinypic.com/13ymc84.jpg
Regards,
Greg

ok, ya know that some of the advertising copy writers like to call it a "Soviet 1911". for me it's just a simple SA 9mm that's all steel(plastic grips). I could see messing around with the trigger and taking it to the range. I wouldn't carry it, even with the "safety". Russian army carried them unchambered, condition3.
http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=HG3182-N is the importer.
http://www.jgsales.com/zastava-yugo-tokarev-m70a-semi-auto-pistol,-9mm,-blued,-by-cai,-new.-p-59547.html has them on sale for $199. add in the shipping to your FFL. add in the FFL charges, taxes. $300? out the door?
for my FFL, the easy way is to just order it from Zanders--- http://shop2.gzanders.com/pistols/ci-zastava-m70a-pistol-9mm-s-a-2-mags-new-condition.html

[muggsy]

That clip prevents the slide stop from coming out when the gun is fired. You have to remove that clip to remove the slide stop to field strip the pistol. I don't buy commie guns. :)

[O'Dell]

I had a Tokarev in 9x19 and really enjoyed shooting it. This was many years ago and I had a HP 9mm at the same time. I would rate them about equal as far as shooting was concerned, but the Browning was better made and of a higher quality. Both were far too heavy and large for a 9mm IMO.

[marcinstl]

" I don't buy commie guns."
this is same gun Boris Badenov (Борис Баденов) use for hunting moose and squirrel , yes?
(actually, these days Serbia is a member of the UN, CoE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe), OSCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_for_Security_and_Co-operation_in_Europe), PfP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace), BSEC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Black_Sea_Economic_Cooperation ), and CEFTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Free_Trade_Agreement). It is also an official candidate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Serbia_to_the_European_Union) for membership in the European Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union),[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia#cite_note-bbc-8) which is negotiating its EU accession (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_the_EU),[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia#cite_note-Council_of_the_EU-9)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia#cite_note-bbc_2-10) acceding country to the WTO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia#cite_note-WTO-11) and is a militarily neutral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_%28international_relations%29) state,[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia#cite_note-forumi-12) with a second-highest GPI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index) in the Western Balkans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans), behind Croatia(that why XD pistols cost more).

[marcinstl]

OK, I couldn't pass this up. 9mm, single action, single stack, sliding trigger, 2 mags, in a plastic case for $260 out the door. bring it home for the initial carb cleaner, brake kleen bath. lube job includes oil and grease. monday, off to the range for the 100 round break in. then maybe a little buffing and tune up. dry firing the gun out of the box(full of Serbian shipping lube), the trigger ain't bad and the magazines pop right out. (when they start making plastic guns, wonder if they'll come in a sheet metal box?)

[marcinstl]

after some minor technical problems during cleaning (the damn magazine safety spring fell off), I went to the range this morning and shot 124gr. Winchester NATO and 158gr. Fiocchi sub-sonic (sweet shooting 9mm round). the gun ran perfectly and the factory sights are right on. the sights are black and just begging for some white paint (dot in the front, glock basket in the back). more tuning and shooting, going to be a fun gun this winter.
(what's next? I'm looking at the Armscor replica/copy/ rip-off of the .38spl Colt Diamond back, 4" revolver.)

[hardluk1]

Son-in-law has had one of those for some years. Works well , accurate enough and will do the job on a BG as well as a fancy pistol . Just not as purdy doing it.

[marcinstl]

I'd like to shoot one of these chambered in the original 7.62x25, just to see what that's like. (a .30 cal. carbine shot a 7.62(.30 cal.)x33, just for reference). can't say for sure but my 9mm version of the T-33 will only see action at the range, no BG's, just paper. hey it was way cheaper than a Cilson Wombat.

[b4uqzme]

I've seen a couple of these CZ52's in Tokerev. Been REAL tempted. Like you marc I'm curious to shoot one. Curious enough to buy one? Maybe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_52

[marcinstl]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9725mm_Tokarev
got some ballistics.