Complete Newb Mag Question

[gryphonz3]

Hello from Coastal Virginia. Brand new to Kahr's and all things Kahr. I recently purchased a Blemished CW9 on GB and it is inbound to my FFL as I type. Have been looking around here for a few days trying to learn some things. I am by no means new to guns or a novice shooter,but these mags have me puzzled. I ordered 2 mags from Midway and received them today. I loaded them to test function and let them sit prior to pistol break-in and this funky follower has got me baffled. The flat front that allows the bullet to tip forward seems strange to me...and the little pin in the left side of the follower. Any input or advice is welcome. I really liked the way this pistol felt in my hand at a local shop so I took the plunge. I have read lots of bad things on other forums,but figured I would ask the people who are in the know.

[Alfonse]

You can pretty much load them up and shoot with them. There are some threads showing how you can check that the spring in in correctly.

[muggsy]

The little pin in the follower is what raises the slide stop after the last shot is fired to lock back the slide. Most of the mags work just fine just as they come from the factory. Disassemble and clean your mags when you receive them and check to make sure that the spring has been properly installed. Read though the stickies on the mags to learn of some of the more common problems. There's a wealth of information there. Don't be afraid to ask for help if you run into any difficulties.

[gryphonz3]

Thanks for the replies. Looking forward to getting to know a new brand of pistol.

[marshal kane]

Thanks for the replies. Looking forward to getting to know a new brand of pistol.
Check the interior side of the magazine feed lips for sharp edges. If they are there, they will gouge cases, add resistance to the slide, and cause chambering problems. You can burnish these sharp edges off with a steel rod e.g. drill bit shank. That is the only problem I had with my new P9. All three of the magazines that came with my gun as well as the one I bought from MidwayUSA had sharp edges on the feed lips. After burnishing them, they feed rounds like a greased pig and no more chambering problems.

[Slaven131]

Hello from Coastal Virginia. Brand new to Kahr's and all things Kahr. I recently purchased a Blemished CW9 on GB and it is inbound to my FFL as I type. Have been looking around here for a few days trying to learn some things. I am by no means new to guns or a novice shooter,but these mags have me puzzled. I ordered 2 mags from Midway and received them today. I loaded them to test function and let them sit prior to pistol break-in and this funky follower has got me baffled. The flat front that allows the bullet to tip forward seems strange to me...and the little pin in the left side of the follower. Any input or advice is welcome. I really liked the way this pistol felt in my hand at a local shop so I took the plunge. I have read lots of bad things on other forums,but figured I would ask the people who are in the know.

Yes, the magazine follower is flawed. Some people don't have any issues, but on my cw40 and my brother's cw9, they both needed work done to the followers. Here is a link to a video I made that shows the problem along with my solution. Hope it helps. Welcome to the forum!

http://youtu.be/qkXUfG5_haE

[muggsy]

Yes, the magazine follower is flawed. Some people don't have any issues, but on my cw40 and my brother's cw9, they both needed work done to the followers. Here is a link to a video I made that shows the problem along with my solution. Hope it helps. Welcome to the forum!

http://youtu.be/qkXUfG5_haE

How can you say that the followers are flawed when there are thousands upon thousands of these magazines in use with no problems what-so-ever. It never ceases to amaze me how many shade tree gunsmiths there are who believe that they are better engineers than the people who designed the gun in the first place. It reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. In the first frame there was a water pipe dripping water. The caption was "leak". In the second frame a bucket was hung from the pipe to catch the water. The caption read, "temporary repair". In the third frame there was a faucet attached to the bucket and the caption read, "permanent repair". If your gun isn't feeding properly it could be the magazine or it could be something else entirely. Why not let the people who designed the gun find a solution to the problem instead of fokking it up yourself. I have a dozen magazines for my Kahr pistols and none of them has a modified follower. Just sayin.

[marshal kane]

While I've had on occasion changed magazine springs, I've never had to modify a magazine follower. I guess I'm just too dumb to realize that I could do so and improve feeding. I believe "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.". Someone smarter than I designed that part. YMMV

[Slaven131]

How can you say that the followers are flawed when there are thousands upon thousands of these magazines in use with no problems what-so-ever. It never ceases to amaze me how many shade tree gunsmiths there are who believe that they are better engineers than the people who designed the gun in the first place. It reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. In the first frame there was a water pipe dripping water. The caption was "leak". In the second frame a bucket was hung from the pipe to catch the water. The caption read, "temporary repair". In the third frame there was a faucet attached to the bucket and the caption read, "permanent repair". If your gun isn't feeding properly it could be the magazine or it could be something else entirely. Why not let the people who designed the gun find a solution to the problem instead of fokking it up yourself. I have a dozen magazines for my Kahr pistols and none of them has a modified follower. Just sayin.

Funny how I am now a "shade tree" gunsmith. Thank you very much for describing to me the type of person I am. I appreciate your "deep" insight. Of the two kahr pistols I have, both of them had the same feeding problem from the magazine. Basic math points to that being a 100% problem with all magazines I have encountered. I understand that many people do not have any issues with their mags, but by reading many other forums, there are more than a small handful of people who have this problem. Anyone with any mechanical abilities can look at the follower design and know that it has a potential to create issues. By the way, my "f-ed" up pistol has over a thousand rounds through it without issue now.

The kahr engineers refuse to admit there even is a problem. Why? Because that would mean a recall on all magazines that are out there. How many pistol manufacturers do you know of that specifically tell you to "not rack the slide by hand"? None that i am aware of...oh besides Kahr. Sounds strange to me...

[yqtszhj]

You're not going to have any problem with your cw9. Kahrs 9mm are top notch pistols. The 9mm followers wont be a problem on a cw9. I did mod my cw45 follower, not because i was having any feeding problems but because i cant leave well enough alone and it was draging slightly on the mag release when installed in the gun.

Get it, clean it, and shoot it like you stole it.

If everything in the internet is true im gonna find me a french model to date.

[muggsy]

Funny how I am now a "shade tree" gunsmith. Thank you very much for describing to me the type of person I am. I appreciate your "deep" insight. Of the two kahr pistols I have, both of them had the same feeding problem from the magazine. Basic math points to that being a 100% problem with all magazines I have encountered. I understand that many people do not have any issues with their mags, but by reading many other forums, there are more than a small handful of people who have this problem. Anyone with any mechanical abilities can look at the follower design and know that it has a potential to create issues. By the way, my "f-ed" up pistol has over a thousand rounds through it without issue now.

The kahr engineers refuse to admit there even is a problem. Why? Because that would mean a recall on all magazines that are out there. How many pistol manufacturers do you know of that specifically tell you to "not rack the slide by hand"? None that i am aware of...oh besides Kahr. Sounds strange to me...

Kahr refuses to say that there is something wrong with their guns design, because there isn't anything wrong with the design. There was something else causing the feeding problem and you modified the follower to cure it. You didn't fix the problem, because you now have to modify every follower in every mag to get them to work in your gun. But, if you believe that your the second coming of John M. Browning who am I to argue. My Kahrs work without any modification to the followers just as they were designed to work. You hung a bucket on a leaking pipe.

[Slaven131]

Kahr refuses to say that there is something wrong with their guns design, because there isn't anything wrong with the design. There was something else causing the feeding problem and you modified the follower to cure it. You didn't fix the problem, because you now have to modify every follower in every mag to get them to work in your gun. But, if you believe that your the second coming of John M. Browning who am I to argue. My Kahrs work without any modification to the followers just as they were designed to work. You hung a bucket on a leaking pipe.


So since all of your mags work fine, then I must be crazy? I find it funny that you have no idea about this feeding issue, but still feel inclined to tell me I don't know what I'm doing when I fixed mine. The process to chamber a round isn't that complex and it wasn't very difficult to find the problem in the magazine.... The reason this problem doesn't exist for everyone is because no two guns are exactly the same. But since the mag design is inferior, it lends itself to be a problem for some owners.

I am glad that you have no problems with yours. But for the ones like me who have...twice, I feel strongly that the magazine is the culprit. All you have to do is look at the gap between bullet 1 and bullet 2 to know that something isn't quite right.

I do appreciate you comments because it keeps us on our toes, but I stand by reason for distrusting the magazine. In honesty, I am glad that it is in the mag because that's an easy fix that doesn't require work on the gun itself.

I don't feel we are going to budge either way so let's just agree to disagree and move on.