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jtabatch
06-21-2010, 06:49 PM
My first round never loads smoothly, gets stuck, when using the 8R clip in my CW9 , just wondering if anybody experienced the same thing and is there something I can do about it .

Thanks:confused:

Bawanna
06-21-2010, 06:59 PM
Are you dropping the slide with the slide lock lever or slingshoting it? For some reason I have yet to figure out, some mags will not do the pull the slide back and release deal but work fine with the slide release.
If your not using the slide release you might give that a try, could of course be a follower or mag spring if you've had it awhile, long while.

Bawanna
06-21-2010, 07:01 PM
You also might want to substitute the word mag or magazine for clip. Don't matter much to me one way or tother but if your into technicalities it's really a magazine.
Welcome by the by. Like to see new folks and lots of helper on board to solve problems or learn from your experiences as well.
Be careful around Dietrich, he's sometimes greased up, great guy, just a little slippery.

rglbegl
06-21-2010, 07:17 PM
Only time I have any problems with my CW9 8rd mag is when I sling shot it.
If I use the slide release it works every time

jocko
06-21-2010, 07:32 PM
Only time I have any problems with my CW9 8rd mag is when I sling shot it.
If I use the slide release it works every time

I had alot of hard times trying to hand rack my pM9. Now though after 29,400 rounds through it, I can do it with ease. I think the gun and I have both been broken in properly:behindsofa:

I think one can hand rack a kahr after it gets a few thousand rounds through it. Things just start to smooth up alot with rounds down range, but also I do think I learned alot to in proper hand racking my kahr. I can alsmost rack my G19 with my feet, it is just that easy to do but it took me much longer to master my kahr. I think alot of it ,,, is the stiffer recoil springs in the kahrs to and I have the 20.5# springs in my PM9 even. I don't complain, just passing on to readers that your not alone.:behindsofa:

I complained alot of not being able to hand rack my P380 kahr even half the time right, now though with about 1500 rounds through it, I can also hand rack it with ease to. I think we both mated up--so to say..

jtabatch
06-22-2010, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the advice . I sling shot it . Only shot about 250 rd through it so maybe it needs some more breaking in , really happy with the gun though. Sort of dissappointed with Kahr tech support , was on hold for about 20 min before I gave up .

YoungGun
06-22-2010, 07:40 AM
The slide release works every time on my CW9, but I can only slingshot a round into the chamber if I take one round out of the magazine first. It doesn't like to load rounds into the chamber if the magazine is completely full for some reason. It doesn't bother me much as long as the slide release technique works. I'm sure it will continue to break in anyway.

linksrds
06-22-2010, 09:19 AM
While I have never tired a 8rd mag, after the break in period of my CW9, I can slingshot a round in the chamber. I do not do this as normal procedure at the range, but I know it can be done if the need is there.

As for the service at Kahr, I can honestly say that I have had very good service. There has never been a time when I was kept on hold. The technician that I spoke with was more than helpful to answer my question. I do not remember his name, but it seemed that he had a Australian accent.

mr surveyor
06-22-2010, 10:52 AM
I've only cycled 700+ rounds through my CW9, and almost always load by hand/sling-shot method. Once or twice, just for the heck of it I did use the slide stop. Never had the first malfunction of any kind.

I'm not familiar with the 8 round magazine, but would guess it's extended somewhat as compared to the standard 7 rounder. If that's the case, it is slightly possible that finger pressure against the front/lower part of the extended magazine could be causing a bit of torque to the "working end" of the magazine leading to feed problems. It is most likely that the recommended slide release method of charging the gun will be the remedy, but there is always the possibility of unforeseen difficulties with "non-standard" magazines (even if they are OEM spec). Since the CW series guns, and I assume most Kahr handguns, have rather tight tolerances in the magazine well area, the extended magazine may not be such an issue, but is definately the source of problems with other handguns.

just my nickle's worth of useless drivel:)

surv

Bawanna
06-22-2010, 11:29 AM
I agree with mr surveyor, there's just not alot of error margin. I do believe that as more rounds are fired things work in better. My PM45 at first wasn't fond of the sling shot method but after a couple hundred it slingshots with ease. Just a matter of things working in I think.
I suspect as the gun wears it more the extended mags would work better also. Shooting full size 1911 mags in my PM worked without a single issue so the tolerances must be close enough to make everything happen.
Next trip out we'll try the 10 round Chip Mccormack mags and see how that flies.

mr surveyor
06-22-2010, 04:23 PM
slightly off topic for a second.....

Bawanna.... since you mentioned the Chip McCormics, and the fact they work in the PM45, I'll trade you six CMc Shooting Star mags for 3 Wilson Combat mags. I haven't tried the WC mags in my Kimber, and the CMc's work fine.....I just want Wilsons:)


surv

Bawanna
06-22-2010, 04:34 PM
slightly off topic for a second.....

Bawanna.... since you mentioned the Chip McCormics, and the fact they work in the PM45, I'll trade you six CMc Shooting Star mags for 3 Wilson Combat mags. I haven't tried the WC mags in my Kimber, and the CMc's work fine.....I just want Wilsons:)


surv

Sorry man, no deal. I'm a devout Wilson mag man myself. I have 10 full size and 7 officer size. I wanted to try 10 round mags just for playing at the range and the Chips McCormics were a good deal right here from MrSig. My fellow wilson fans here at the dept gave me a bad time for not getting Wilson 10 rounders.
Ironically alot of the shops around here only stock the Chips and they are a great magazine without doubt. It's a tempting offer.
The Wilsons do work very well in Kimbers, a detective here and several others I know who have Kimbers find they work great.

jtabatch
06-24-2010, 11:40 PM
Thanks guys for your help . Did try the slide lock technique and it worked fine . Not entirely confident enough to use it as a back up yet but will keep working it and see what happens. BTW didn't mention that I was using hollow point if that makes a difference.

OldLincoln
06-25-2010, 11:48 AM
You may need to rack it someday. I was taught to keep it pointed at target while gripping the slide in my left hand pushing it back hard and at the same time thrust the gun forward with my right hand letting the right hand rip the gun from my left. Besides getting a full hard rack, it positions the gun for firing. I have sharp slide notches and it hurts a bit, but no blood. It does a good load every time.

Bawanna
06-25-2010, 12:03 PM
After more rounds and breaking in they seem to adjust better to hand racking also. My PM45 hand racked just fine from the go, but many don't. Put some rounds thru them and they will be ok with it.
It doesn't make any sense to me, most trainers suggest hand racking just as OldLincoln stated but I know it's true. Some don't like it at first???