1911 dependability?

[berettabone]

I have been contemplating getting a 1911.........................my first, after 39+ yrs. shooting...............problem being, there just aren't that many in my area to fondle. Plenty of Kimber's, and Colt's, but no Springfield's, Magnum Research, ATI's, Sig's etc. I want it for mainly range, but would like to have the carry option. I've been looking at Kimber Ultra's, Springfield Range Officer compact, Sig carry's. I love the option of a 3" or 3 1/2" barrel, but I worry about dependability. If anyone owns a compact 1911 in .45................how has the dependability been with yours?

[GLOCKROCKER]

I have a Kimber Compact Stainless. It's a 4" commander length barrel with a officers size grip. It's been 100% and eats everything. I've probably put 2500 +/- through it. I have read that some of the 3" 1911's can be a little hit or miss as far as dependability, but I think you'll probably be well served by any of the brands you mentioned.

[CPO15]

Colt's seems to have mastered the 3" 1911 with their New Agent and Defender models. I have had both (still have the Defender) and found them to be accurate and dependable. But, both seem to have issues with "brass to the face" which can be fixed with adjusting the extractor (see uTube) and the recoil spring of a 3" is very short; mine are changed every 500 rounds. Colt's seems to have trouble keeping the spring assemblies in stock but Kimber offers a similar, but better, assembly for their 3" models which fit the Defender/New Agent perfectly.

I had a 3" Kimber and, while it performed better than I expected, it was not dependable and their CS stank.

in general, the 3" guns are prone to issues so I suggest you go with something from Colt's.

Good luck and have fun.

[Bawanna]

Your kind of speaking out of both sides of your mouth there berettabone.

You say you want it mainly for range. For that I would prefer full size 5" or commander at a minimum.

Then you say all the ideal carry sizes.

I've run the gammut from full size to compact but found the circle continued and I now carry full size or commander everyday. A commander isn't difficult to carry at all really.

I have an officer size 3 1/2" Para that has been trouble free. No issues. I haven't shot it in a long time.

I had a Colt Officers Model which in spite of all the bad things I heard about with others also was trouble free. Wish I still had it today.

All things being equal it seems that when you get into the compacts there seems to be more issues.

BUT also I think a lot of those issues have been worked out these days. The Ultra you mention seems to run well. My cousin has one and it's a dream to shoot. Very very accurate.

My Magnum Research 1911G is a delight to shoot, incredible value and probably the most accurate 1911 I own. They now have a commander version of that out that I have not seen yet.

I see a 1911 in your future, I can feel it in my cells. Maybe more than one too.

[knkali]

Kimber full size here .....with the holster Bawanna recommended, no problem carrying it. BTW his grips make the gun! BTW it is very dependable too.

[Bawanna]

Did you get a Mernickle? Awesome rig. I need to order another one just in case my first one ever wears out.

No sign of that happening so far.

[knkali]

Did you get a Mernickle? Awesome rig. I need to order another one just in case my first one ever wears out.

No sign of that happening so far.

Yep the high boy version per your rec.. Carries that 1911 very well.

[berettabone]

I realize that a longer barrel would do justice at the range, but a smaller firearm is just easier to carry.........concealed. A smaller 1911 would be fine for me at the range.........I'm not shooting at 50yds. Just concerned about reliability. I think I'm still leaning towards the Springfield range officer compact. Fully supported barrel and feed ramp at 4".

[ltxi]

My 3.5 inch Colt's Officers ACP is dead stone reliable, has been for the close to 20 years I've had it, and is the only .45 I concealed carry. It has been 'smithed, though. Right from the start. Bought it as raw material for custom carry weapon.

Had a Colt Defender for a couple of years quite awhile back. Sold it because I didn't overly like it, but it was pretty dependable. Have an early 3 inch Kimber UltraCarry I've never had an issue with. Wife likes that one. All of these are lightweights. In a heavier 1911 I have a strong preference for 4 inch/Commander length.

Also...with short barrels not cheaping out on mags is even more important. I've pretty much used nothing but Wilson for the last couple decades.

[b4uqzme]

From reading your posts, it sounds like you'd be real happy with any of the 4 inchers. You'll hear all sorts of stuff on the web but more good than bad as long as you stay commander or longer. I went with a Sig full size but Springfield was next on my list. Dan Wesson was what I really wanted but couldn't swing the $$$. I do have a 3 inch Para that runs well but that seems to be the exception not the rule.

[O'Dell]

I have had excellent luck with SIG's and Springfields. No problems at all. My 4.25 inch SIG C3 is every bit as accurate as my 5 inch Springfield, easier to carry, and probably my best looking pistol. I can say pretty much the same for my 3.5 inch Springfield Ultra Compact, except for the good looking part. This is the gun I traded for my new CM45 but only because I didn't need it.

My Kimber 3 inch UC II has run fine since I trashed the junk mag they shipped with the pistol and bought two good ones.

[CJB]

I've owned three Officers ACP and never had a feed problem with any of em. Commander, ditto, Four inch Springfield, ditto. And govys ditto.

I dunno about the 3 inch 1911... like Kahr, things get dicey at very short lengths. But at least the Kahr was designed around it, while the 1911 was adapted to it.

I'd never begrudge the Officers length the extra half inch vs the really short shories.

[gb6491]

...I think I'm still leaning towards the Springfield range officer compact. Fully supported barrel and feed ramp at 4".
A ramped barrel is definitely the way to go (IMO) with an alloy frame 1911.:cool:

I've had a Colt Officer's ACP for quite a while and it's been reliable for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nkmxu.jpg
I picked up some 1991 Compact parts last year and after parkerizing them put the Compact slide, barrel, and some other parts on the OACP for testing and haven't felt a need to swap them back;
http://i44.tinypic.com/ou8pyh.jpg
I don't run the stock dual recoil springs setup in mine. I put together something about six years ago and have run that since:
http://i38.tinypic.com/dwdlxj.jpg
It's made from a reverse plug I bought from Clark (doesn't require any cutting of the slide, but I did need to drill it for the guide rod), the guide rod is from EGW, and the flat wire spring came direct from ISMI. http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=2017581&postcount=6 (http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=2017581&postcount=6)
EGW must have thought enough of it that they now offer a kit version on their website (they make a real good product:)): http://www.egwguns.com/index.php?p=product&id=81

Regards,
Greg


Nice photos O'Dell:)

[berettabone]

Any words of wisdom, before I take a 1911 plunge????????????????????

[knkali]

yeah enjoy the sheet out of whatever you get. 1911s are great fun

[yqtszhj]

I have 3 1911s, all the inexpensive ones. 2 RIA and one ATI bought recently. Mine have all shot really well.

My ATI commander size is now probably favorite size. Its my project gun now too. I've put 400 plus rounds through it now. Just doesnt like steel case ammo. My others will eat anything.

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?25036-New-toy

[Bawanna]

Any words of wisdom, before I take a 1911 plunge????????????????????

1. Remember proper trigger etiquette.

2. Remember proper trigger etiquette.

3. Remember proper trigger etiquette.

There's very little or no slop in the trigger, no take up to speak of. No forgiveness for sloppiness or adrenaline related errors. I know this to be true.

When you tug on the trigger something happens. And it's awesome.

Warning though. You might have a lot of safe queens when you get struck with the 1911 fever.

[Barth]

From reading your posts, it sounds like you'd be real happy with any of the 4 inchers. You'll hear all sorts of stuff on the web but more good than bad as long as you stay commander or longer. I went with a Sig full size but Springfield was next on my list. Dan Wesson was what I really wanted but couldn't swing the $$$. I do have a 3 inch Para that runs well but that seems to be the exception not the rule.

Never owned a 1911.
But I've rented a few.
The only one that was 100% reliable for me?
5" Wilson Combat CQB.
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/cqb-unique-014.jpg

[b4uqzme]

**** I run Wilson Combat mags...does that count?

[Bawanna]

I'm a Wilson mag guy too. Nothing but Wilson's in my carry rotation. Even my PM45 likes Wilson from time to time.

[gb6491]

Any words of wisdom, before I take a 1911 plunge????????????????????
Yes, if you're going with the Range Officer Compact, buy it before the end of month :): http://gearup.springfield-armory.com/Gearup.asp
Regards,
Greg

[Bob T]

**** I run Wilson Combat mags...does that count?

Doesn't everyone?

[kenemoore]

If you can afford and find one, go with a Dan Wesson CCO.

[340pd]

I have a Kimber Ultra II CDP 3" that has never had any issues. In fact I actually shoot that gun as accurately as my 4" Ed Brown.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/c05731fa-8b8b-456f-a751-04824fa45b50_zpsbd5573e9.jpg

[berettabone]

A ramped barrel is definitely the way to go (IMO) with an alloy frame 1911.:cool:

I've had a Colt Officer's ACP for quite a while and it's been reliable for me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nkmxu.jpg
I picked up some 1991 Compact parts last year and after parkerizing them put the Compact slide, barrel, and some other parts on the OACP for testing and haven't felt a need to swap them back;
http://i44.tinypic.com/ou8pyh.jpg
I don't run the stock dual recoil springs setup in mine. I put together something about six years ago and have run that since:
http://i38.tinypic.com/dwdlxj.jpg
It's made from a reverse plug I bought from Clark (doesn't require any cutting of the slide, but I did need to drill it for the guide rod), the guide rod is from EGW, and the flat wire spring came direct from ISMI. http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=2017581&postcount=6 (http://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=2017581&postcount=6)
EGW must have thought enough of it that they now offer a kit version on their website (they make a real good product:)): http://www.egwguns.com/index.php?p=product&id=81

Regards,
Greg


Nice photos O'Dell:)

Now that, in all of it's plain-ness, is a beautiful piece of hardware. Pretty much looks exactly like what I would want, if I carried a 1911. Nice gun.

[Bawanna]

I think it needs a wide spur hammer and it would be perfect!

[jeepster09]

Alright.....let's throw this in the mix....a Sig P220 SAS compact 45. That is if you want super reliable quality....however not a 1911.

[Bawanna]

If it's got the DAK trigger I'll take it!

I've never been a Sig guy, they just don't work for me but I've long wanted a 220 SAS w/dak trigger. Not even sure why but that happens often.

[O'Dell]

If it's got the DAK trigger I'll take it!

I've never been a Sig guy, they just don't work for me but I've long wanted a 220 SAS w/dak trigger. Not even sure why but that happens often.

I'm just the opposite because I favor traditional DA/SA triggers in SIG's, HK's and S&W 3rd gens. After my classic nickel 1995 P220 was stolen I bought a modern one with the DAK trigger. I didn't like the trigger at all and the new pistols with the SS slide are heavier - 25 vs 30 ozs. Fortunately, the stolen P220 was recovered in great shape so I sold the new one.

[gb6491]

I think it needs a wide spur hammer and it would be perfect!
I have one on it's big brother:
http://i43.tinypic.com/3344qr5.jpg

Thanks berettabone:)

Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

Better. Big brother looks great!

Makes me in the mood to tote the Remington for awhile again. It's due for some love.

[b4uqzme]

I'm just the opposite because I favor traditional DA/SA triggers in SIG's, HK's and S&W 3rd gens. After my classic nickel 1995 P220 was stolen I bought a modern one with the DAK trigger. I didn't like the trigger at all and the new pistols with the SS slide are heavier - 25 vs 30 ozs. Fortunately, the stolen P220 was recovered in great shape so I sold the new one.

Ditto. I'll only do DA/SA/decocker in my CZs. Not sure why since I love my DA Kahrs and revolvers. :confused:

So they made a DA only 3gen S&W? I thought I saw one just yesterday in a used gun case. It didn't have a safety. Did that mean it was DA only?

[gb6491]

Ditto. I'll only do DA/SA/decocker in my CZs. Not sure why since I love my DA Kahrs and revolvers. :confused:

So they made a DA only 3gen S&W? I thought I saw one just yesterday in a used gun case. It didn't have a safety. Did that mean it was DA only?
Probably so, here's a DAO 3953 (photos from here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=184798)):
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3885/dsc3251.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6260/dsc3253.jpg

My 3913 is pretty much the same gun, but DA/SA:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2wdskep.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e0ttht.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[jeepster09]

Ok.....we will stick with 1911's


http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/jeepster09/IMG_20140501_164421_158_zpsa41620e4.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/jeepster09/media/IMG_20140501_164421_158_zpsa41620e4.jpg.html)

[Bawanna]

I love the S&W's. Carried a 4516 for many years. Hated the first double action pull.

Built a house for a retired LA SWAT guy up here. His partner, also LA SWAT lived next door, what a fun time.

Anyhow they carried the Smiths. Both had very nice trigger jobs done on their guns but even still they called the first round a cocking round. It's only purpose was to get the hammer back so they could shoot accurately.

These guys were high speed low drag been there done that. Both had over 200 first entries which in LA jargon only counts if somebody inside is shooting at the police etc.
He said on more than one occasion the bad guys gave up after he shot a cocking round into the floor while bringing the gun up to shoot the bad guy. He felt it influenced the bad guys, letting them know he wasn't messing around.

Probably a little exaggerated but neither one of them had much of a rep for drama or sugar coating.

[b4uqzme]

^^^^ coulda sworn I saw a picture of that one before it was green.

Thanks GB. Those 3gen S&Ws just never fit my hand right. No hump in the backstrap. But I was curious.

[Bawanna]

Ok.....we will stick with 1911's


http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/jeepster09/IMG_20140501_164421_158_zpsa41620e4.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/jeepster09/media/IMG_20140501_164421_158_zpsa41620e4.jpg.html)

Don't change course on my account. I loved the Sig addition. But the addition of the Smith 1911 is very pleasant also. Beautiful gun. Seen a few, never played with one.

Greg, you still got yours or did that one go walk about, my memory is weak today.

[berettabone]

Alright.....let's throw this in the mix....a Sig P220 SAS compact 45. That is if you want super reliable quality....however not a 1911.

As far as reliability, the P220 has to be at the top, as far as .45 goes...........................my fullsize has never even so much as burped, and I must say that I've never heard anything negative about them............like you said, not a 1911 though. I'm a da/sa lover, but got the itch for something new, and a 1911 design would be new for me. What does the wife say, " Expanding my horizon's". Something like that.

[gb6491]

Don't change course on my account. I loved the Sig addition. But the addition of the Smith 1911 is very pleasant also. Beautiful gun. Seen a few, never played with one.

Greg, you still got yours or did that one go walk about, my memory is weak today.
I went on to somebody else, but it funded a a few rifles I'm fond of. It was nice pistol, it just didn't sing to me:
http://i41.tinypic.com/rrjms3.jpg

We'll while we're posting some 5 inch guns:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ymbvrn.jpg

Regards,
Greg

[gb6491]

As far as reliability, the P220 has to be at the top, as far as .45 goes...........................my fullsize has never even so much as burped, and I must say that I've never heard anything negative about them............like you said, not a 1911 though....
If you get a good one, they are pretty darn reliable. Mine never gave me any trouble, but it was another gun that just didn't sing to me (first round I fired from it):
http://i57.tinypic.com/20pdcat.jpg

That said, SIG did have quite a few 220s with extractor issues.

Regards,
Greg

[berettabone]

Never heard much about that..........................older one's or newer??????????????

[Southerngunner]

I have gotten rid of every 1911 that I had that is bigger than a Commander, currently I have a Dan Wesson C-Bob in 45 a Ruger SR1911 Commander45, A Kimber Tactical UltraII 45 and my latest a Dan Wesson ECO in 9mm. The C-Bob and Ruger both have 4.25 " barrels the Kimber has a 3" and the ECO has a 3.5" All are more accurate a than I am. I also have S&W 3913 9mm in a blued version that has feed any bullet profile that I have tried in it and it is scary accurate even when I shoot it, but it is not a 1911. My son still has a Springfield Compact Carry Comp that I gave him when he turned 21 Y.O. It's still running fine after several 1000 rounds, that model was a limited run that was an Officers size alloy frame with a 3" coned barrel with a Compensator permanently attached taking the slide length out to 4 ". I miss that one but at least it's still in the family.
Good luck with your choice and get ready for your next addiction.
1182911830

[b4uqzme]

As far as reliability, the P220 has to be at the top, as far as .45 goes...........................my fullsize has never even so much as burped, and I must say that I've never heard anything negative about them............like you said, not a 1911 though. I'm a da/sa lover, but got the itch for something new, and a 1911 design would be new for me. What does the wife say, " Expanding my horizon's". Something like that.

I dunno. I've never felt the call to buy a regular Sig. I did get a Sig 1911 and that one hasn't so much as burped either. Maybe it's the brand?

Now, if we're talking Sigs, here's what I really would recommend: P210 (it's single action like a 1911 :) )

[gb6491]

Never heard much about that..........................older one's or newer??????????????
Earlier stainless slides with internal extractors.

...
Now, if we're talking Sigs, here's what I really would recommend: P210 (it's single action like a 1911 :) )
I'd love to own a P210 :)
FWIW, the 220 I posted a photo of is a single action.

Regards,
Greg

[Barth]

As far as reliability, the P220 has to be at the top, as far as .45 goes...........................my fullsize has never even so much as burped, and I must say that I've never heard anything negative about them............like you said, not a 1911 though. I'm a da/sa lover, but got the itch for something new, and a 1911 design would be new for me. What does the wife say, " Expanding my horizon's". Something like that.

+1
My old school, stamped slide, Sig P220 45 has been flawless.
I shoot it well.
But It's not a 1911.
And the Wilson Combat CQB is a tack driver.

No shocker to anyone that knows me.
But for a 45 ACP that's not a 1911?
I'll take my HK USP Tactical 45 all day every day.
The USPT45 has been bombproof and deadly accurate.http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo0981_zpsc667d5e7.jpg

[berettabone]

QUOTE=Barth;321012]Never owned a 1911.
But I've rented a few.
The only one that was 100% reliable for me?
5" Wilson Combat CQB.
http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/cqb-unique-014.jpg[/QUOTE]

You always go for the cheap models.....................:p

[Bawanna]

Yeah entry level for sure.

I'd love to say I owned one before the river crossing but I don't think it's gonna happen. I have held one, I guess that counts for something.

As insane as the prices seem, the thing just felt super high quality to me as it should I reckon. Just holding it exuded top notch. Hard to explain.

[knkali]

+1
My old school, stamped slide, Sig P220 45 has been flawless.
I shoot it well.
But It's not a 1911.
And the Wilson Combat CQB is a tack driver.
No shocker to anyone that knows me.
But for a 45 ACP that's not a 1911?
I'll take my HK USP Tactical 45 all day every day.
The USPT45 has been bombproof and deadly accurate.http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo0981_zpsc667d5e7.jpg

Barth, you have the coolest sheet. I fell in love with this pistol.

[TheTman]

My friend has a Kimber Crimson Carry II, officer sized 1911. He has a lot of annoyances with it. It's top heavy, and will pull the holster out of my friends waist band, and falls out once in awhile, and the grip seems to like to expose itself in warmer weather, when it's covered by a long shirt or something. And after 500 rounds, it still won't cycle hollowpoints reliably, Kimber says put another 300-500 through it and it should work itself out. But he's decided to switch to a LC9 for his CC weapon. It's much lighter, and stays concealed better. It was an impulse buy, from when he was taking his CC class, and he thought it would work out much better than it actually has. He has better holsters, but they don't conceal well, except in jacket weather. The one that falls out looks like it should work well, maybe he doesn't keep his belt tight enough to keep it from falling out.

[gb6491]

Yeah entry level for sure.

I'd love to say I owned one before the river crossing but I don't think it's gonna happen. I have held one, I guess that counts for something.

As insane as the prices seem, the thing just felt super high quality to me as it should I reckon. Just holding it exuded top notch. Hard to explain.
Did you notice Wilson even bobbed the frame a little on that CQB for you Bawanna?
If you're interested, there are some more photos of it here: http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/calibers/45-acp/not-your-daddys-cqb/


+1
My old school, stamped slide, Sig P220 45 has been flawless.
I shoot it well.
But It's not a 1911.
And the Wilson Combat CQB is a tack driver.

No shocker to anyone that knows me.
But for a 45 ACP that's not a 1911?
I'll take my HK USP Tactical 45 all day every day.
The USPT45 has been bombproof and deadly accurate.http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo0981_zpsc667d5e7.jpg

Barth, You must have some good size mitts to be using a grip sleeve on a USP 45http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bighug.gif

Mine feels a touch awkward (big) in my hands, but the Compact is a good fit for me.
http://i62.tinypic.com/b9dlx1.jpg

Regards,
Greg

[O'Dell]

Barth, You must have some good size mitts to be using a grip sleeve on a USP 45http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bighug.gif

Mine feels a touch awkward (big) in my hands, but the Compact is a good fit for me.
http://i62.tinypic.com/b9dlx1.jpg

Regards,
Greg

Your hands must be about the same size as mine, Greg. My compact SS USP 45 fits fine but the FS USP 40 is a bit chunky for me.

[ltxi]

Yeah entry level for sure.

I'd love to say I owned one before the river crossing but I don't think it's gonna happen. I have held one, I guess that counts for something.

As insane as the prices seem, the thing just felt super high quality to me as it should I reckon. Just holding it exuded top notch. Hard to explain.

As you know, Col, that's where I was. Changed my mind. Seriously high quality but nothing that can't be duplicated, and for less cost. I would have accepted the price, especially with my discount, but Wilson's lead time for a specific option build was just way too long.

[Bawanna]

Yeah it's all name recognition and he deserves it but it's like dating Britney Spears (on a good day). Sure there are 10 million other women as good looking that a person could date and probably a lot cheaper but they ain't Britney Spears. Or insert any name J Lo, Reba Macintyre (my favorite) I could go on and on.

Then there are those amongst of on a different level who only understand sheep mentality, not to be confused with sheep dog mentality which is an animal of a whole different color.

[marcinstl]

I like to go into my favorite gun store (http://www.trailcreekguns.com/) and look at all the Wilson's, Nighthawk's, Ed Brown's, Guncrafter's in the cases. the joke there is you point to one of them and say, "$328 ain't a bad price", salesman hands you a pair of reading glasses so you can see the 0 on the end. yep, $3280 is a little steep for a retired guy. Glock 21 is $585, no 0 on the end.

[Barth]

Barth, You must have some good size mitts to be using a grip sleeve on a USP 45http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bighug.gif

Mine feels a touch awkward (big) in my hands, but the Compact is a good fit for me.
http://i62.tinypic.com/b9dlx1.jpg

Regards,
Greg


Actually I've got small girl sized hands - LOL!
But I like big guns.
Actually prefer the grip on my FS USP to my HK45c.
Although I have to shift my grip to hit the slide release.
I'm a strange brew...

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo1097_zps2a29c0b8.jpg
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo1371_zps6b87672b.jpg
My cell phone pics suck - LOL.
This is a better cell pic of my HK45C -
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/barthunderwood/Mobile%20Uploads/Photo1382_zps1798ad86.jpg

[Barth]

Barth, you have the coolest sheet. I fell in love with this pistol.

Thanks, it's a personal favorite of mine too.

[ltxi]

Yeah it's all name recognition and he deserves it but it's like dating Britney Spears (on a good day). Sure there are 10 million other women as good looking that a person could date and probably a lot cheaper but they ain't Britney Spears. Or insert any name J Lo, Reba Macintyre (my favorite) I could go on and on.

Then there are those amongst of on a different level who only understand sheep mentality, not to be confused with sheep dog mentality which is an animal of a whole different color.

@bold 1....and way more functionally useful

@bold 2....jocko

[Barth]

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2031927.ece/alternates/s615/Britney-Spears-Hit-Me-Baby-One-More-Time-Video-Screengrab.png

[Bawanna]

Is that Britney? I heard the name a million times, never was for sure what she looked like.

Kind of like Pippi Longstockings huh? Like her bangs.

Itxi? Are they too big?

[Barth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4
http://38.media.tumblr.com/578019fb9491d04ea21b75e9cdae45ca/tumblr_mgq51qqJ4B1qdcxoeo1_500.gif

I Love the Way These Threads Drift...

[b4uqzme]

Wow! How'd ya get her to MOVE like that? ;)

[ltxi]

Is that Britney? I heard the name a million times, never was for sure what she looked like.

Kind of like Pippi Longstockings huh? Like her bangs.

Itxi? Are they too big?



That's whut Justin Timberlake used to say....

Acceptable....big mouth kinda cancels that out, tho