Asking for money

[b4uqzme]

“Knock, knock.”

You get up from the couch or easy chair only to find ahandful of federal agents at your door, armed to the teeth, and demanding that you “hand ‘em over . . . or else.”

(b4uqzme), if you believe in the Second Amendment at all, this horrific scenario is always in the back of your mind .. .

This was the opening to an email I just received from a national gun rights group. One that does a lot of good for us and to whom I already donate.

Does anyone else find this fear mongering from our side offensive and potentially counter productive?

[Bawanna]

Very much so! I unsubscribed to a mailing list to a relatively new organization that was just flooding me with request for money right up till the day before the election.

What good does the money do then?

[ltxi]

Despite my obvious commitment to the organization, the NRA really annoys me on this point with all the mass "gimme more" mailers I get from them. So, just guess how I feel about the crap from the "third world" organizations......

[Alfonse]

I put them on ignore too. That is a shame, because if they weren't always crying wolf I might actually hear what they have to say.

[RRP]

If you create an online account with NRA, you can manage your membership. You'll need your member number as well as a screen name and password, to create an account. Then, navigate to Member Services, then to My Membership. Once there, you have an option to manage your subscriptions, (which are enabled, by default). I deselected every one, and that ended all mailings, except the magazine.

[b4uqzme]

It's not really the emails I object to. Or the asking for money. I just don't think it serves us well to fear monger our own members.

[downtownv]

FEAR- Sells products and services!

[RRP]

Is it fear mongering if it's really happening? Check-out Buffalo, NY.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/buffalo-police-search-for-firearms-at-home-after-funerals/

[b4uqzme]

^^^ well...

[muggsy]

I get at least fifty solicitations from various organizations every weak. Everyone of them use fear or appeals to consequence in their calls, letters and e-mails. I put most of them on ignore.

[b4uqzme]

FEAR- Sells products and services!

But they say sex sells too. How about we try that for awhile? :D

[berettabone]

I wouldn't exactly call it fear mongering, and aimed towards a certain part of society, actually very productive. All it takes, is the wrong judges, the wrong Gov't entities, and this scenario isn't out of the realm of possibility. Look at what has happened so far, with the wrong people in control.........................don't ever underestimate your own people/Gov't. This type of email boosts the base, and gets the rest thinking.

[knkali]

I wouldn't exactly call it fear mongering, and aimed towards a certain part of society, actually very productive. All it takes, is the wrong judges, the wrong Gov't entities, and this scenario isn't out of the realm of possibility. Look at what has happened so far, with the wrong people in control.........................don't ever underestimate your own people/Gov't. This type of email boosts the base, and gets the rest thinking.

The NRA is a bit over zealous in their pursuit of my donation by the volume of requests I get but I agree with Berettabone 100%

[Pointblank]

I would like to know the pay scale for the NRA hierarchy. They are always hounding me for money. I had to block some of their addresses online and some of their numbers on my phone.

[ltxi]

If you create an online account with NRA, you can manage your membership. You'll need your member number as well as a screen name and password, to create an account. Then, navigate to Member Services, then to My Membership. Once there, you have an option to manage your subscriptions, (which are enabled, by default). I deselected every one, and that ended all mailings, except the magazine.

Thanks for this, I'll do it.

Interesting that my wife's a Life member and she doesn't get any of this junk.

[yqtszhj]

The appeals for money do get old for sure. What also gets old is the left using scare tactics to try and push gun control and they get it published for free in the media. Actually i dont see how the NRA does what they do on the money they get. If they didnt have loud people i think we would get run over more than we do. Look at what harrylee was saying about PA. We are under constant threat in somd parts of tge country.

But again the appeals do get old.

[marshal kane]

I guess this answers the question, "Is the gun control movement dead?" No, it's very much still alive and up to it's dirty tricks! Before I retired, I used to designate $10/month to the NRA/ILA as it was a tax deductible charity organization and I could sleep at nights after ignoring their other requests for donations. After retirement, I only donate when I can afford it especially when membership is up. Fellow shooters, donating is a personal thing and I fault no one for not giving whatever the reason. However, remember that fighting for the cause is expensive, the fight goes on nationwide, and that we would not be better off had the NRA not stepped into this fight. The way I see it, the NRA kind of got pushed into the role of fighting for us because it, at the time, was the largest gun owners organization in the nation. If it were not for the efforts of the gun control people, the NRA would still only be promoting the shooting sports and printing The American Rifleman magazine. Enough said from a Life Member since 1965.

[drumngun]

you can call NRA and have them put you on the DO NOT PROMOTE list, the fella i talked to when i called trying to get relief from all of their junk mail, said they actually appreciate me requesting the do not promote as they can save some $ too, i told him when i'm in a giving mood i have your website on my fav. list. problem solved haven't heard a dam thing in 4 years from them, although some of the money i used to give them now goes to the wounded warrior fund, and make a wish foundation but i think the NRA will survive not getting those funds.

[mr surveyor]

you can call NRA and have them put you on the DO NOT PROMOTE list, the fella i talked to when i called trying to get relief from all of their junk mail, said they actually appreciate me requesting the do not promote as they can save some $ too, i told him when i'm in a giving mood i have your website on my fav. list. problem solved haven't heard a dam thing in 4 years from them, although some of the money i used to give them now goes to the wounded warrior fund, and make a wish foundation but i think the NRA will survive not getting those funds.


ditto on the call to be put on the don't send list. I called 5-6 years ago and now only get solicitations about 3-4 per year either for "emergency begging" or a couple of reminders here and there to re-up for another go-round. I was getting monthly spam in the ponyexpressmail before making the call.


jd

[Firemedic]

Tip: Don't enter the drawings for winning any guns from those small time organizations cause that just opens the door to flood your email with conspiracy crap.

[marshal kane]

Entering will likely result in a constant flood of mail asking for donations. I'm leery of those contests as I've never heard of anyone I know ever winning a gun.

[muggsy]

I make one donation per year to the organizations and charities that I support. Any further correspondence from them goes unopened directly into the round file.

[el_presidente]

I put them on ignore too. That is a shame, because if they weren't always crying wolf I might actually hear what they have to say.

Amen. I'm numb to the endless bell-ringing and shouting that The End Is Near.

[ScottM]

I make one donation per year to the organizations and charities that I support. Any further correspondence from them goes unopened directly into the round file.

Ditto that Amen. And double it if you've already been generous, only to be made to feel guilty later for not giving even more.

[muggsy]

It only fear mongering if what they claim isn't true. If you don't think that there are people in government who would like to see you disarmed and defenseless then don't donate. If you believe that there are then support the organizations that believe in what you believe. I believe that if it wasn't for the NRA that we would have been stripped of out second amendment rights long ago.

[sas PM9]

I guess this answers the question, "Is the gun control movement dead?" No, it's very much still alive and up to it's dirty tricks! Before I retired, I used to designate $10/month to the NRA/ILA as it was a tax deductible charity organization and I could sleep at nights after ignoring their other requests for donations. After retirement, I only donate when I can afford it especially when membership is up. Fellow shooters, donating is a personal thing and I fault no one for not giving whatever the reason. However, remember that fighting for the cause is expensive, the fight goes on nationwide, and that we would not be better off had the NRA not stepped into this fight. The way I see it, the NRA kind of got pushed into the role of fighting for us because it, at the time, was the largest gun owners organization in the nation. If it were not for the efforts of the gun control people, the NRA would still only be promoting the shooting sports and printing The American Rifleman magazine. Enough said from a Life Member since 1965.

MK:

Very well said, and is my approach also.

It is not too onerous to open the mail and throw it away if you are not interested or else like others have said go to the website and deselect the snail mail and e-mailings.
The good that the NRA does us all far outweighs the minor aggravation of some mass mailings to alert some people to the possibilities.

-steve

[RRP]

It only fear mongering if what they claim isn't true. If you don't think that there are people in government who would like to see you disarmed and defenseless then don't donate. If you believe that there are then support the organizations that believe in what you believe. I believe that if it wasn't for the NRA that we would have been stripped of out second amendment rights long ago.

Right on, muggsy. And, if gun owners who are annoyed by the call for financial support turn their backs on NRA, those rights will erode away.

If we value the freedom to own firearms, and we are not willing to join the campaign to protect those rights, we will lose. Bloomberg will win. That's what it's come to.

Apathy and resistance to join the campaign will be our undoing.

[ScottM]

Right on, muggsy. And, if gun owners who are annoyed by the call for financial support turn their backs on NRA, those rights will erode away.

If we value the freedom to own firearms, and we are not willing to join the campaign to protect those rights, we will lose. Bloomberg will win. That's what it's come to. Apathy and resistance to join the campaign will be our undoing.

You guys are killing me with your puppy dog eyes and Sarah Mclachlan music! [emoji41]. I can adopt only so many guns and give only so much money for pete's sake!

[RRP]

You guys are killing me with your puppy dog eyes and Sarah Mclachlan music! [emoji41]. I can adopt only so many guns and give only so much money for pete's sake!

I understand, Scott. But if every gun owner simply became members of NRA, additional donations would not be necessary. My point is that if we own a gun and value that right but are not willing to join the campaign to retain that right, we will lose.

[b4uqzme]

“Knock, knock.”

You get up from the couch or easy chair only to find ahandful of federal agents at your door, armed to the teeth, and demanding that you “hand ‘em over . . . or else.”

(b4uqzme), if you believe in the Second Amendment at all, this horrific scenario is always in the back of your mind .. .




Just reminder of what we are talking about. It's not the asking for money, it's the WAY they asked for money in this case. I'm sure they use these tactics because they work...

[muggsy]

When I was in the Navy I always had a girl on my arm. Since I have a face that only a mother could love my shipmates were always curious as to how someone with a mug like mine could be so successful with women. I told them that I played the odds. I'd ask every girl I saw if she would go out with me and sooner or later I'd find a near sighted one. The moral of the story is, if you don't ask you'll never succeed. It's also a plus if you can smooth your eyebrows with your tongue. :)

[ScottM]

When I was in the Navy I always had a girl on my arm. Since I have a face that only a mother could love my shipmates were always curious as to how someone with a mug like mine could be so successful with women. I told them that I played the odds. I'd ask every girl I saw if she would go out with me and sooner or later I'd find a near sighted one. The moral of the story is, if you don't ask you'll never succeed. It's also a plus if you can smooth your eyebrows with your tongue. :)

:) I've found a little spending money helps too :)

[Longitude Zero]

“Knock, knock.”

You get up from the couch or easy chair only to find ahandful of federal agents at your door, armed to the teeth, and demanding that you “hand ‘em over . . . or else.”

(b4uqzme), if you believe in the Second Amendment at all, this horrific scenario is always in the back of your mind .. .

This was the opening to an email I just received from a national gun rights group. One that does a lot of good for us and to whom I already donate.

Does anyone else find this fear mongering from our side offensive and potentially counter productive?

Yes I do find it highly offensive. It was like the NRA's failed disaster of the month to gin up donations.

[knkali]

When I was in the Navy I always had a girl on my arm. Since I have a face that only a mother could love my shipmates were always curious as to how someone with a mug like mine could be so successful with women. I told them that I played the odds. I'd ask every girl I saw if she would go out with me and sooner or later I'd find a near sighted one. The moral of the story is, if you don't ask you'll never succeed. It's also a plus if you can smooth your eyebrows with your tongue. :)

that's pretty dang funny

[b4uqzme]

When I was in the Navy I always had a girl on my arm. Since I have a face that only a mother could love my shipmates were always curious as to how someone with a mug like mine could be so successful with women. I told them that I played the odds. I'd ask every girl I saw if she would go out with me and sooner or later I'd find a near sighted one. The moral of the story is, if you don't ask you'll never succeed. It's also a plus if you can smooth your eyebrows with your tongue. :)

My eyebrows are bushy. 'splains things a bit. ;)