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ATTAKK
11-17-2014, 08:21 PM
****Update 12/30/2014. Hello everyone! Thanks for staying tuned! So, Kahr sent me a new P9 Black slide after the first came with a blemish. I slipped the CW9 barrel into the P9 slide. Naturally, it was a very snug fit. I was quite nervous as the barrel didn't seat fully as if it were in battery. I thought maybe there were millimeters if difference that I wasn't noticing. Turns out all it needed was a little muscle to fully seat. With a little oil and hand manipulation I got it to loosen up. I fit the front day sight and voila, put it all together.

So, to answer the question. Yes, a P9 slide does fit all other CW9 components. This has how been confirmed twice in this thread. Shout out to our member cobrasjp for 1st confirmation!

I must say that I'm quite fond of the two-tone look. Definitely thought the controls were going to need to be black as well, but I'm done! The contrast is nice in my opinion. I'll be taking it to the range this week.****


*****Update 12/22/14. See following pictures. P9 Black slide arrived from Kahr. There is a blemish on the top of the slide behind the rear sight. Am I crazy? If I was buying a brand new gun I would ask to see if that had any others in stock. I'm OCD. I haven't even put the slide on the frame because I'm going to contact Kahr customer service tomorrow. It looked like it was done before the DLC coating applied. It was dinged, then coated. Your thoughts?********


Good evening! A couple things to touch on here and will keep it short and sweet:

Will a P9 slide fit on a CW9 frame with all CW9 parts: striker, striker block, extractor, etc...?

Why you ask? Well, I purchased a used CW9 with the sole purpose of it being a "tinkering" piece; knowing full well that things could turn out great... or not so great... and most of all, become a money pit. I started to work on a slide melt and began to file away at the sharp corners. I got a little carried away near the front of the slide on the hard edge near the rolled CW9 lettering. Basically, I took off a bit too much on one side, had to match the other, and so on and so forth to keep things even. Now, it looks great off the frame and it's finished well, but the slide tapers in skinnier than the dust cover. I don't like that. Now I'm in the market for a new slide and will put this one up for sale, cheap. Just trying to decide between the P9 or CW9 slide direct from Kahr. Yes, my decision making went like this: 1) I do an awesome melt job and get a Cerakote finish 2) I'm out $145 + shipping for the cost of a slide. That was a chance I was willing to take.

The slide is not done. It still needs finishing work, but I'm done removing any more metal.

This is my first post on the forum. I've been lurking for a while and finally decided to join. I hope that I can give as much as I receive. Y'all seem like a great bunch. Now, you may enjoy my experiment.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8628/15966662357_f0d8693f84_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qjVjs2)

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ReManG
11-17-2014, 09:15 PM
Looks good, that polymer dust cover doesn't stick out too far, but I understand if it drives you crazy. You could just put a decent radius on the outer edge of the dust cover, but I am sure you considered this. As far as the CW/P convertibility, I would have no idea officially, but if you call Kahr and they say it is ok..... With pictures like that, I cannot wait to see your future posts...

And welcome to the forum...

ATTAKK
11-18-2014, 12:31 PM
Update: I called Kahr this afternoon and asked if they could unofficially advise if the P9 slide would fit the CW9. The gentleman said, "Most of the machining is the same, but there may be some issues with the barrel / slide fitment."

So, I'd have have to purchase at my own risk.

Now... time for some more Googling in P9 barrel into CW9 slide fitment...

Original melt photos...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5614/15611468660_d62df8bd09_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pMwRJL)


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https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5613/15772635076_090b0f4e25_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q2LSU5)


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7477/15796306425_01010f9117_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q4ScyM)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15176357024_0dd15d2be3_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p85Nd1)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15794431501_c9962a86dd_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q4GAdv)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5604/15176359374_f249c6ded8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p85NUw)

Bawanna
11-18-2014, 12:35 PM
Lovely job on the melt job, I'd contour the dust cover to match. Call it a done deal. That portion of the dust cover doesn't take any stress or critical pressure.

ATTAKK
11-18-2014, 01:21 PM
Lovely job on the melt job, I'd contour the dust cover to match. Call it a done deal. That portion of the dust cover doesn't take any stress or critical pressure.

I thought about that, but surprisingly that scares me more than working on the slide! If I get the stones, I'll be sure to share.

leftysixty
11-18-2014, 02:07 PM
Welcome to the forum.

The frames are the same on both models, so why would the slides not interchange?

gb6491
11-18-2014, 03:05 PM
Don't mess with the dust cover, I doubt the plastic over the front rails insert is very thick.
Regards,
Greg

Bawanna
11-18-2014, 03:09 PM
Didn't look to me like he'd have to go far enough back to get to the dust covers but the picture might be deceiving. I agree the plastic isn't very thick at that point.

yqtszhj
11-18-2014, 05:25 PM
ATTAKK, i just posted on another thread that i was thinking about doing what you did. You're a bad influence and welcome.

ATTAKK
11-18-2014, 05:56 PM
Welcome to the forum.

The frames are the same on both models, so why would the slides not interchange?

Honestly, that's a great question. I did some more searching and it sounds like there could be a difference in the width of the barrel lug between CW9 generations. I'm going to get out a micrometer and take some measurements -- see if anyone with a P9 can help me out. Just trying to make an informed decision.

ATTAKK
11-18-2014, 06:00 PM
ATTAKK, i just posted on another thread that i was thinking about doing what you did. You're a bad influence and welcome.

I would recommend giving it a try IF you know how you'd like to refinish (media blasting, ceramic coat, polished, etc) The work itself is simple if you take your time.

yqtszhj
11-18-2014, 06:12 PM
Ive got a media blaster on standby for the job.

ATTAKK
11-18-2014, 06:29 PM
Ive got a media blaster on standby for the job.

You lucky dog! Definitely. Go for it.

cobrasjp
11-19-2014, 07:19 AM
I'm going to get out a micrometer and take some measurements -- see if anyone with a P9 can help me out. Just trying to make an informed decision.

I've got a P9 and a CW9. Both of them are relatively new so they should be the latest version.

I'd be willing to try swapping the barrels, slides, and frames to see what happens. I don't really want to try swapping out the internal slide parts because I'm afraid of getting the parts mixed up.

Would that help you out?

ATTAKK
11-19-2014, 11:54 AM
I've got a P9 and a CW9. Both of them are relatively new so they should be the latest version.

I'd be willing to try swapping the barrels, slides, and frames to see what happens. I don't really want to try swapping out the internal slide parts because I'm afraid of getting the parts mixed up.

Would that help you out?


That would be extremely helpful! Just the P9 slide onto the CW9 guide rod, barrel and frame. That's what I'd be doing. If you see any noteworthy differences in the P9 and CW9 barrel, please share. Thanks so much for the offer to help!

This thread just got alot more interesting...!

cobrasjp
11-19-2014, 10:01 PM
I tried my P9 slide on my CW9 frame with the barrel and guide rod from the CW9. Everything fit great. Felt and operated the same with both slides. Couldn't see any external differences in the barrels either.

I didn't fire it, but I have no doubt it would work.

So, I guess the answer is yes, a P9 slide will fit on a CW9.

ATTAKK
11-20-2014, 06:30 AM
I tried my P9 slide on my CW9 frame with the barrel and guide rod from the CW9. Everything fit great. Felt and operated the same with both barrels. Couldn't see any external differences in the barrels either.

I didn't fire it, but I have no doubt it would work.

So, I guess the answer is yes, a P9 slide will fit on a CW9.

Incredible! I cannot thank you enough for your effort. I've literally been searching the internet for months to find this information. Many thanks.

Now, just need to find a way to convince wifey that I need another slide for a gun that already has one... because she WILL notice. Yes, she carries too.

I'll update this thread once I make the purchase. It won't be right away, but soon.

ReManG
11-20-2014, 07:21 PM
This is why I like this forum.... Good luck ATTAKK, let us know how it works out...

ATTAKK
12-18-2014, 08:04 PM
Update: P9 Black slide ordered direct from Kahr. Stay tuned. I'll post pictures as soon as it arrives.

Anyone interested in the melted CW9 slide? PM me and I can take some detailed pictures with the DLSR.

*Edit* Forgot to mention that the Black slide was the same price as the P9 regular stainless and the CW9 slide. No brainer.

ATTAKK
12-22-2014, 08:32 PM
Updated with new pictures. Need your thoughts and comments. Thanks!

gb6491
12-23-2014, 08:51 AM
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8672/15897947239_fd85e19261_c.jpg
Updated with new pictures. Need your thoughts and comments. Thanks! That ding would be not acceptable to me. I prefer to put them on a new item myself.

muggsy
12-23-2014, 09:02 AM
None of your before pictures shows the area in which the ding occurred. Are you sure that the ding wasn't there before you sent it in?

ATTAKK
12-23-2014, 09:08 AM
None of your before pictures shows the area in which the ding occurred. Are you sure that the ding wasn't there before you sent it in?

This P9 Black slide was ordered brand new from the factory - no before / after photos possible. I opened the package and inspected for defects. This is what I found. :/

TucsonMTB
12-23-2014, 10:17 AM
Admittedly, that slide was "dinged" even before the final black coating was applied, but it is small enough to ignore,

Better yet, the roll stamp lettering on that slide looks much nicer than the roll stamp lettering on either of my PM40's.

I would keep that slide rather than take a chance on getting another with uneven and lightly struck roll stamping, like mine.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8682/16083998075_a19fe8a8ee_c.jpg

YMMV. Best of luck, sir!

ATTAKK
12-23-2014, 11:33 AM
Kahr emailed me within 2 hours of my message and is sending another slide with a return shipping label.

They have a customer for life!

ATTAKK
12-30-2014, 09:01 PM
New update bump. I think you'll like this one...

cobrasjp
02-07-2015, 10:14 PM
Just wondering how your CW9/P9 hybrid is working out.

ATTAKK
02-17-2015, 03:39 PM
Just wondering how your CW9/P9 hybrid is working out.

It's great! Couldn't have done it without ya! Took it to the range and ran about 150 rounds through it without flaw *for me.

*Except for the FTF that wifey was able to manage. However, she was able to cause a G17 to FTF the same day -- limp wristing. So, I won't hold it against the Kahr.