Remington to replace the triggers in about 7.85 million rifles

[gb6491]

Remington is agreeing to replace the triggers in about 7.85 million Model 700 rifles
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/remington-700-massive-fix-countrys-most-popular-gun-n262721

[muggsy]

No gun is perfectly safe. The fact that 7.85 million of these guns are in use and only a handful have accidentally discharged is testimony of a good design. The user of the product bears some responsibility. In every instance where someone was injured or killed one or more of the cardinal rules of gun safety was violated. You can't injure or kill someone if the gun is pointed in a safe direction. No gun has ever gone off by itself without the help of an outside agency or human interaction.

[RRP]

The trigger was designed by Merle Walker. In 1946, even before the trigger went to market, Walker discovered a potential problem with the safety. This was documented in an internal memo he wrote in 1946, cautioning against its use. Later, in an internal memo sent in 1947, a test engineered verified the dangerous design. The test rifle discharged without pulling the trigger. Walker redesigned the trigger, this time with a better safety which locked the trigger, but Remington refused to incorporate the design. There is no shortage of documentation available, to those with the initiative to understand the truth.

[CPTKILLER]

I no longer have a 700 but shared this. Good info.

[muggsy]

I believe that it was found that if you pulled very hard on the trigger with the safety on and then later took the gun off safe the gun could fire. This occurred in less than one third of the guns returned for this problem. NBC with their anti-gun bias led the fight to have these guns recalled in an attempt to bankrupt the gun manufacturer. I've owned several 700s and never experienced the problem. The 700s were issued to our military for use as sniper rifles and as far as I know they never experienced the problem. The triggers on these guns were adjustable and if adjusted to less that two pounds pull you could experience this type of failure.

[RRP]

I'm not going to debate this with you, muggsy, because you have obviously made up your mind already.

I stand by my statement that there is a lot of physical evidence available to anyone searching for facts, including from the designer of the trigger, the military, and police departments.

[Antarius]

I have a 700 with the affected trigger and elected not to send it in. There was a recall on it quite a while ago -- this isn't particularly new except now it seems like every 700 gets a new trigger

I dont keep a round chambered until I'm ready to shoot, so it's a moot point for me. And I've never had it go "click" yet anyway.

[Armybrat]

My oldest son bought himself a 700 BDL thirty years ago. He's never had a problem with it, but I dunno if he'll send it in or not. It is a beautifully made & finished rifle.

[gb6491]

I have a 700 with the affected trigger and elected not to send it in. There was a recall on it quite a while ago -- this isn't particularly new except now it seems like every 700 gets a new trigger

I dont keep a round chambered until I'm ready to shoot, so it's a moot point for me. And I've never had it go "click" yet anyway.
Yep, that recall was for 700s with the XMP trigger (http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/safety-center/safety-warning-recall-notice-Remington-model700-modelseven.aspx)
I've owned to 700s with the "Walker" trigger. One was in .223, the other in .308. The .223 never gave me any problems. The .308 was a different story. First day out with it, after about twenty rounds down range, it fired as I closed the bolt. I had the shop where I bought it check it out. Their smith adjusted the trigger and put thread locker on the adjustment screws. It's been fine since, but I think I'll still send it in
Regards,
Greg

[Antarius]

Yikes!