Spent Cartridge with new Pistol

[Redstate]

I heard that Kahr does not send with a new pistol the little envelope with the test fired cartridge and test fire date. Does anyone know if this is correct?

[Armybrat]

The little CT380 I just bought a couple weeks ago did not come with the fired casing.

[Baklash]

Bought a brand new CM9 a couple months ago. No spent casing. Bought a new CW9 last spring and no spent casing. I feel discriminated against.

[Esco]

My CW380 did not have one, but it was dirty enough that they definitely fired more than one round. so i dunno.

[b4uqzme]

None here. But I hear Bloomberg got one with his pistol. :rolleyes:

[Redstate]

I went and checked my P9 Covert stuff that I got in 2003 and it came with the envelope and spent case. I also checked my stuff for my MK9 that I got in 2012 and found no envelope.

Thanks for all the responses.

[AJBert]

A few states require that the manufacturer include a spent casing or two to the new owner...and to the state police. Most states do not have this requirement. Some manufacturers have decided to just include the spent casing with all handguns regardless of what state they are sent to rather than just include the casing for handguns going to the few states that require them.

[sharpetop]

My carbon steel K40 comes with one.

[Bawanna]

A few states require that the manufacturer include a spent casing or two to the new owner...and to the state police. Most states do not have this requirement. Some manufacturers have decided to just include the spent casing with all handguns regardless of what state they are sent to rather than just include the casing for handguns going to the few states that require them.

This ^^^. It means nothing meaningful, don't lose sleep over it. And all Kahrs are shot way more than once.
Generally new guns are cleaned, but I've seen a few that they missed. Test fired repaired guns are generally left dirty after test firing.

[Armybrat]

As I said above there was no spent casing with the CT380, but the pistol definitely had been fired. It had a lot of powder residue around the breech & feed ramp... probably test fired with Monarch ammo.

[marshal kane]

I've never received a spent case with any new pistol I've ever bought. I've received a test target with some of my match pistols but never a spent case.

[Tilos]

I don't know...
Maybe go to the range pickup a case, put it in a official looking envelop. mark it appropriately, send it in :p
just sayin'

[muggsy]

As far as I know only New York And Maryland still require the spent cases.

[TheLastDaze]

None here. But I hear Bloomberg got one with his pistol. :rolleyes:

I'm thinking that's where all the spent casings go?? perhaps he's turning into a brass scrounge :)

[AJBert]

The spent casing is a finger print of your firing pin. This is why the state police get sent one, too.

IMHO, I'd much rather NOT have a spent casing included with the purchase.

[Planedude]

Easy fix... New firing pin and extractor.

Suddenly, it's a whole different gun!:p

[RRP]

Easy fix... New firing pin and extractor.

Suddenly, it's a whole different gun!:p

Which explains why most state crime labs don't require these any more. That and most crimes are committed with stolen guns, so identifying the original owner does little to solve the crime.

[Tilos]

In addition to the firing pin/extractor the machining marks on the breach/slide face will be in-printed on every case fired.
I've read that all of those components can be stoned or polished (legally) to alter the impression left on a fired case.
Not that I have ever done that though

[marshal kane]

. . . I've read that all of those components can be stoned or polished (legally) to alter the impression left on a fired case.
Nothing illegal about this at all, in fact, it's often beneficial to the smooth operation of a gun and performed by gunsmiths and wanta-be gunsmiths all the time. If stoning and polishing is done to alter the impression left on a fired case, the crime lab boys can still find impressions that can be matched up with the suspect gun. Stoning and polishing only leaves a set of new impressions on a fired case still traceable back to the suspect gun.

[RRP]

Nothing illegal about this at all, in fact, it's often beneficial to the smooth operation of a gun and performed by gunsmiths and wanta-be gunsmiths all the time. If stoning and polishing is done to alter the impression left on a fired case, the crime lab boys can still find impressions that can be matched up with the suspect gun. Stoning and polishing only leaves a set of new impressions on a fired case still traceable back to the suspect gun.

I'll bet there are laws in some states (i.e. CA), that prohibit this practice in order to preserve the microstamp. Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.