CM9 Didn't Perform Today

[Marine One]

I've had my CM9 for a few months, and up until now have been very happy with it. It has about 400 trouble free rounds through it. That all changed on the range today. I loaded all my magazines with WWB, which has always worked flawlessly in the past. Locked the slide to the rear and inserted the first mag, released the slide lock, aimed in, pulled the trigger and CLICK! The trigger pulled as normal but the pistol didn't fire. I dropped the mag and checked the chamber. There was a round in the camber. I ejected it and reinserted the mag, released the slide release, sighted in and CLICK again. This happened with each and every magazine. I disassembled the weapon and didn't notice anything wrong. After reassembling the pistol the problem persisted. I disassembled it again when I got home and re-cleaned it. However since the pistol seems to work fine when dry fired there is no way to tell if it's functioning properly unless it is actually being fired. I'm planning one more trip to the range before calling Kahr and was hoping for some advice from the more seasoned here.
What should I be looking for here?
Thanks in advance.

[b4uqzme]

It never fired at all? Broken firing pin maybe? Try inserting a pencil into the barrel then dry firing it. Please make sure the gun is empty. The pencil should shoot out when you pull the trigger if the pin is OK.

[BEARDOG]

Remove the slide - push the striker safety block in - and push the striker backwards and forwards - Does it move freely?
Does the striker pin extend out beyond the breech face when pushed fully forward?

[skiflydive]

Try different ammo.

[Redstate]

Did you contact Kahr yet?

[JustinN]

What did the back of the rounds look like? Any marks on the primer?

[Marine One]

Operator Error.
I went back through everything today. The pistol is fine. It was ammo (and head-space and timing) related. Suffice it to say that when one is in a hurry leaving the range (as I was the last time I was there before yesterday) you gotta be careful to not throw your .380 ammo in the box with the 9mm. Going back out tomorrow to be sure that was the problem.

[RRP]

It's not the first or the last time someone put the wrong ammo in a gun. Glad no one got hurt. Let us know how it eats 9mm, next time.

[Harrylee]

Can we say egg on face:)

[Marine One]

Yep. But at least I owned up to my own stupidity.

[gb6491]

Yep. But at least I owned up to my own stupidity.
That you did sir:yo:.....I once accidentally verified that my XD-S in .45ACP would feed/fire/extract/eject .45GAP (well, at least three rounds of it):2eek:
I'm guessing the GAP head spaced on the extractor:ohmy:
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

I've seen a lot of stupid in my day but this isn't one of them. Anybody could get 380 and 9 mixed up. Hear all the time of folks putting 20 ga shells in their 12, sometimes with bad results when it goes in far enough to get a 12 behind it.
Now that I kind of think is negligent but it happen all the time even with color coded hulls too.

I used to sort our dept brass cause we get a bit more money if it's sorted, dang tough dealing with 380, 9, 40 etc. I really like that we carry 45's now, pretty easy to pick out of the mess. Don't miss the 380 and 9 at all.

[CJB]

Crap I was thinking a 380/9mm mixup but didn't want to insult anybody or look foolish to even suggest it.

Happens! Now you know, and aside from the mental distress, you're better off for knowin'!

[Marine One]

Yes, probably won't make that mistake again! Was on the range with both Kahrs (CW380 and CM9) before Christmas. Got running late and the wrong stuff got in the wrong box Yesterday it got into the wrong mags as a result. Was driving me crazy because both pistols have been flawless out of the box. Can count on one hand how many issues that I've had with both of them, all of which occurred early into the 200 round break in period. To top everything else off, I was using some cheap 380 ammo I recently picked up at Wally World in the .380 (Perfecta) which was the first ammo that the .380 didn't like. So, overall it was a less than perfect day on the range. Going back tomorrow to hopefully make it right.

[AnthonyC]

I have actually loaded .40 S&W into my CM9 magazines at the range and only noticed after the 5 round was loaded. I couldn't believe they fit so easily and thanked God I hadn't tried to fire the gun before double checking.

[kwh]

Yep. But at least I owned up to my own stupidity. You are not alone. I did the same thing while trying out my new CW380 along with my CM9. My eye sight also is not as good as it once was . Caught my mistake the same way and no harm done. Also the reason I do not want a 20 ga.shotgun in addition to my 12 ga., or add a .270 Win. in addition to my 30/06 rifle. I always wear eye protection but hope I would never "need" them.

[Marine One]

Back to the range today. Happy to report all is well. 100 rounds through the CM9 and no problems. Thanks for not rubbing my nose into it too far....

[deadeye]

I would like to tell you how foolish I felt after reading all the stickies and still over oiling. Long story short. Don't do it. It can make a 100% CM9 do crazy things.

[dirtkicker]

I loaded 380 into my Glock 26. They fed and fired but wouldn't eject. After 3 rounds I figured it out. They shot pretty well actually. Stuff happens as they say.

[texjack]

My K40 doesn't like 9mm ammo. Stovepipe, stovepipe, oops. The only time I have had a Kahr malfunction.

[sas PM9]

I'm beginning to think that this thread needs to be renamed; something like the Kahr Confessional.:rolleyes:

-steve

[deadeye]

Forgive me for I have sinned.

[pkitfox]

My K40 doesn't like 9mm ammo. Stovepipe, stovepipe, oops. The only time I have had a Kahr malfunction.

If we are going to start confessing, I will mention the time I had 2 identical Sig 239's out. Well, not really identical, one was 9mm and the other was 40 S&W. Fired a 9mm out of the 40 with no damage to the gun. As far as firing a 380 out of a 9mm, not sure there is much of an issue there, but would not expect the gun to cycle. Here is a test of "380 +P" in a 9mm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgOa25NhFio Note that Shootingthebull said if he had a Kahr P380 or a Beretta pico? he would have tested the ammo in those 380's because the manufactures claim they can handle 380 +P. There is no SAAMI standard for +P in 380, but if you feel the need, the Kahr is probably the way to go.

[Redstate]

I confess, my friend did it just the other day. No really, it was he. He had a .40 cal round loaded in the mag of his CW9 and at first couldn't figure out why it would not load. Go figure.

[muggsy]

Back in the good old days my "old man" used to tell me to be sure my brain was engaged before disengaging the safety. :)