22 LR bulged cases

[Gene Hackman]

I shot my phoenix 22 today. I was shooting Remington golden bullet and I had many misfires. I hadn't had any misfires with other ammo and they all went off with a second or third strike. Also part of the bottom of the cases were bulged opposite of the primer strike. They are bulged where the feed ramp is. They all did it but other ammo I've used didn't have that. Misfires were as common at 1 in 10 sometimes. I shot about 400 rounds. That's the only 22 ammo I brought with me today.

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[gb6491]

Probably ammo related, I used to get the same bulges when using "Golden Bullets" in my Advantage Arms G26/27 conversion. Do a Goggle search "Remington Golden Bullets problems" and you'll turn up quite a few hits. I did try some recently that came in the new flattish, bulk pack and they worked fine.
Regards,
Greg

[Gene Hackman]

Probably ammo related, I used to get the same bulges when using "Golden Bullets" in my Advantage Arms G26/27 conversion. Do a Goggle search "Remington Golden Bullets problems" and you'll turn up quite a few hits. I did try some recently that came in the new flattish, bulk pack and they worked fine.
Regards,
Greg
This was one of the flattish bulk packs. brand new

[gb6491]

This was one of the flattish bulk packs. brand new
That's not good. Golden bullets always seem a little hot/high pressure to me. I wouldn't use them in a Phoenix, but they did fine in the old, all steel, Bersa model 223 I was running them in.
Regards,
Greg

[Gene Hackman]

That's not good. Golden bullets always seem a little hot/high pressure to me. I wouldn't use them in a Phoenix, but they did fine in the old, all steel, Bersa model 223 I was running them in.
Regards,
Greg
Yeah. I'm gonna chuck the rest. All I can get though is high velocity

[Gene Hackman]

That's not good. Golden bullets always seem a little hot/high pressure to me. I wouldn't use them in a Phoenix, but they did fine in the old, all steel, Bersa model 223 I was running them in.
Regards,
Greg
Yeah. I'm gonna chuck the rest. All I can get though is high velocity

[hardluk1]

Do you mean your local LGS can't order you a brick or two of standard velocity ammo as all the companies worth shooting make some from aguila to Winchester . If not they stink . It is out there in bulk .

Your case bulge is the shell backing out of the chamber to early do weak recoil springs and hotter ammo .

Save some bucks and buy a better class of .22lr even if its uses to help with the budget .

[berettabone]

Trouble, trouble, trouble........................................... ...................

[DaleCM9]

With misfires, and the case bulge at the feed ramp, it could be that the slide is not fully forward when you pull the trigger. If so, then when the firing pin strikes the rim, the rim is not backed up by the breech face and does not get struck hard enough to fire the round. Also, by the shell not being completely in the chamber, the portion above the feed ramp is not supported and the case bulges from the pressure. If it only happens with one lot of ammo, it could be that the ammo is slightly longer or slighty larger diameter not allowing the slide to easily close completely.

[Gene Hackman]

Trouble, trouble, trouble........................................... ...................
I don't appreciate you being disrespectful. Very immature. Did you have anything to say that's pertinent to my post?

[jeepster09]

:amflag:

[Bawanna]

I don't appreciate you being disrespectful. Very immature. Did you have anything to say that's pertinent to my post?

I agree. We seem to be a little heavy in the negativity department of late and perhaps quick to criticize.

What's the nice way to say knock it off.

[berettabone]

I don't appreciate you being disrespectful. Very immature. Did you have anything to say that's pertinent to my post?

I think that this is pertinent to your post. I don't think I was being disrespectful at all. In fact, I think your being overly sensitive, don't you think? I was just bringing up the fact that you seem to be having a lot of difficulties with the firearms and ammunition that you own and use. The Glock forum hands out hugs and kisses left and right. Me, not so much. I don't appreciate you causing me trouble, when I did nothing wrong. This IS the internet. Put on your big boy pants. If this gets me the boot, so be it. Getting tired of being tarred and feathered for no reason. My post, " trouble, trouble, trouble" is very mild in comparison to other things I read every day. Adults?????????????????

[Bawanna]

This isn't the Glock forum and if it ever becomes the Glock forum I'm going somewhere else.

A little politeness and congeniality goes a long way around here. Nobody gets the boot unless they sorely deserve to get the boot.

I'm really not partial to knocking another mans choice of firearms or raining on new guys just looking for information.

There are several here that seem to disagree with me on this and some are long standing members too.

Keep it nice, keep it friendly, funny earns extra bonus points, if the boobs are too big, well that's life ya know.

Play nice, summers coming, boots are put away.

[pinehtr]

I had a Golden Bullet Explode in my 22a. causing a good bit but repairable amount of damage.
Remington replaced the 3 boxes I had with the new and improved rounds .However I think its the same crap different box.

[Gene Hackman]

I had a Golden Bullet Explode in my 22a. causing a good bit but repairable amount of damage.
Remington replaced the 3 boxes I had with the new and improved rounds .However I think its the same crap different box.

What about misfires? I had plenty

[hardluk1]

Gene Misfires with Remington ammo is nothing new , Winchester to a lesser degree. Probably the 2 most trouble prone rimfire brands out there . Want a better class of ammo and standard velocity ammo then tell your LGS what you want so he can find and order some . We have several aroubnd that work to keep CCI products in stock Start with CCI SV federal 711b, agulia sv, sub and sub hp , federal has 3 , wolf / sk and norma tac and match 22 and then some of the better match grade companies have a low cost label too . There is no less than 15 labels of under 1150fps ammo out there. It may not be as low cost as what your using but life ain't always fair . Get on google and search . I just spent 4 minutes looking and finding standard velocity produce is not a problem . Life does seem difficult for you when dealing with most anything firearm related .

Your bulge problems is easy to understand , high velocity ammo and weak recoil springs don't mix well.

I buy a case at a time and have bought from the same company for years . Champion Shooters Supply .

I don't remember the last time I had a failure to fire with ammo listed above . Been better than a few case's

[MW surveyor]

I was going to say something but don't want to get the OP upset.

FWIW - There is a lot of crying about the good old Rem. Golden Bullets being a bunch of cr@p. Yes you will get misfires from time to time with lite striking firing pins. However with the exception of CCI high velocity, they are the only other rounds that work consistently in my P22 and my Advantage Arms 22 conversion for my 45.
If you want to get rid of what you have, just send them to me! (of course a cheap as I am, you pay the shipping) ;)

[ltxi]

I was going to say something but don't want to get the OP upset........


This ^....

My long time preference in .22 rimfire is for CCI. Aside from the high quality it's available in so many S/L/LR/Mag bullet and pressure and velocity variations it ain't even funny. Something suitable for any need and/or use.

[Bikehiker]

Glad you provided this info. and photo. I don't know if 22lr standards have changed among companies, but about 35 years ago I experienced a dramatic difference between CCI and other 22lr brands, particularly CCI Mini Mags and CCI Stingers. When I bought my cheap Jennings 22 semi auto handgun about 35 years ago,I was warned by the gun shop owner that I would need to use the "better, more expensive" ammo; otherwise, the gun would not function properly. I tried various brands of low cost high velocity ammo (Winchester, Remington) and found this to be true for the Jennings. Then I found that CCI was the best functioning ammo in all my handguns. The CCI Mini mags worked even better than the CCI Stingers. You would think, as many have found, that only a hotter load would encourage better feed/function. But your post proves that there is another element that could have influence on 22lr feeding: case strength. Not only did the Jennings not function well with the Rem/Win high velocity, but the Rem/Wins were much harder to extract from my Ruger Single Six revolver and my Davidson 22lr derringer. Same extraction issue. I had to carry a wooden dowel with the derringer if I wanted to shoot the Rem/Win loads. But ALL CCI loads extracted easily with the extractor button on the derringer and the extractor rod on the Ruger Single Six. Of course, as covered above, the type of gun and functioning has an influence, but case stretch or case strength can be an issue. Perhaps case strength could be part of the issue with the Kahr P 380 and CW 380 not functioning as well (or not at all--Perfecta ammo) with different loads. Some cheaper ammo could have cheaper, thinner, weaker case walls, and after they are fired, they expand and stick in the chamber, making it harder for the extractor to function properly.