new CM9 and 1st time at the range

[SigGlockBoy]

Out of the box, I cleaned and oiled pistol. The pistol wasn't too dirty but did have some grit in it. After cleaning I cycled every process and sub process I could manipulate to mate as many surfaces as possible together. Somewhere above 225 cycles of slide, striker, trigger from all types of holds and both fingers.

I then then cleaned and re oiled again. Then ran another 50+ cycles. Cleaned and re oiled for range.

Used CLP oil with WS2 additive to make metal slick.

Ok, now for range as I feel the break in was mostly complete by now.

I used 2 different rounds. One was WWB 115grn trouble for some rounds. Other was Remington HP rounds I had left. I wanted to see if it would fail.
Hh
I tried the sling shot method with which I train and no issues were found. Loaded from 1st round.

Every shot fired and could hit 4" balloons from 7-38 yds per my range finder. Very surprising and welcomed.

Sights were very close to hitting right on top of the front sight close up. More middle of target to get hits at further distance.

Trigger was rough out of the box but between oil and cleanings with cycling, it smoothed out a lot. Further shooting should just make it smoother.

As as far as I can tell, I must have got a decent one.

As as for finish out of the box, the ejection port was not just sharp but like a new knife. Some edges on slide were left completely untouched and sharp also. All those offending areas were beveled and eliminated. Complete opposite experience with my new cw380. It was finished nicely. Another story and another section.

Overall, my experience with these pistols has been very positive so far and as suggested here and what I've done with many new guns, clean, oil and cycle these pistols until your arms go numb. It will most likely change your first outings experience out of the box.

Possible for pocket carry, I'd prefer it for a light weight OWB or IWB Carry pistol. See my other review for a great pocket pistol that the cw380 will hopefully make.

Definitely something that that will works its way into rotation. The SIG P938 is feeling the pressure as this CM9 might take over that role with some more range time.

Everybody finds that perfect trigger for them based on what they desire. For some things a SA 1911 trigger is perfect. As I grow older, I have begun to prefer a smooth consistent every time DAO type trigger. The Kahr trigger gives me a platform that provides that consistent trigger no matter caliber or model.

I could see the cw380 for everywhere anytime pocket carry. Then a cm9 on the hip with a holster I make gives you a bit more firepower. I don't know if my car/home gun will be surpassed as my Glock 19 seems to fill the upper gap very well. But maybe a bigger Kahr might find a way in. The grip feels very nice to my shorter fingers.

We'll also see if the cw380 upsets my perfect Ruger lcp in its current pocket carry role. It's been a great gun after 13lb springs and a BT Guide Rod. Also another story for another time.

[Alfonse]

Great report. I've pocket carried a PM9 for the better part of a decade. I must be used to it.

[RonW]

I have to ask. But I'm not super familar with the bar dot sights on my CW40. How do you line up your sights? With me at 7 yards if I put the dot just above the bar and put the dot over the bullseye the shots hit 2-3" low.

[CJB]

SigGlockBoy sez "must have got a good one" -

Don't act so amazed!

Couple of thoughts. YMMV etc etc. First being there's nothin' that sez you gotta use the same lube on all points of contact, as wear and stress do differ. My own thoughts are to use something more gease like and tacky for the high pressure areas (top inside of slide and lower barrel lug cutout, with lighter lube for rails, and pretty much leave the rest almost bone dry from cleaning. Second being use the hottest stuff you can getcher hands for on for breakin, and get that recoil spring all limbered up

[SigGlockBoy]

RonW - you describe how I shoot the bar dot sights. I put the dot on top of the bar. I will then raise the front dot on target. As I come up to the bullseye, I will just cover with front dot and finish the pull on the trigger.

I was hitting just behind the dot if slightly above most times.

With thy the longer trigger pull, I could see dropping the front sight as full draw of trigger is completed. I try to constantly re verify front sight on target until it fires.

[SigGlockBoy]

Cjb - I use silkolene grease where thicker lube is needed. I like good old CLP for most other duties. I agree with the rest keeping pretty dry.

I find the Kahr not as grease needy as SIGs but a little more wet than my Glocks.

As as for a good one, everyone writes the bad range trips and sending back to Kahr for repair. So this is a good one report. Not surprised but always happy when I try a new maker and find I got one as advertised.

[b4uqzme]

...As as for a good one, everyone writes the bad range trips and sending back to Kahr for repair. So this is a good one report. Not surprised but always happy when I try a new maker and find I got one as advertised.

Appreciated.

[SigGlockBoy]

Alfonse- I've noticed over the last year as my pants size has dropped down 6 sizes, so has my pocket dimensions.

I use use to carry a glock 27 albeit a bit big in front pocket. SW 638 rode many days also. So I will agree that pocket carry is doable with my cm9. The 380 sized guns just seem to ride so much nicer in the pocket. My cm9 has just that little bit of extra length that makes it a wonder to carry on the belt for me.

That said, an old friend of mine could carry a Hi Power in his front pocket.

[cm91945]

So this is something I thought you should never do.... and that's cycle any gun without ammo in it. I also have a new cm9 and thought that I had to run ammo through it loosen it up? You are saying I don't have to shoot it to get the tightness out of it.. My issue is that the slide seems real hard to operate. If I cycle it like you have stated, it should loosen up?
:Amflag2:


Out of the box, I cleaned and oiled pistol. The pistol wasn't too dirty but did have some grit in it. After cleaning I cycled every process and sub process I could manipulate to mate as many surfaces as possible together. Somewhere above 225 cycles of slide, striker, trigger from all types of holds and both fingers.

I then then cleaned and re oiled again. Then ran another 50+ cycles. Cleaned and re oiled for range.

Used CLP oil with WS2 additive to make metal slick.

Ok, now for range as I feel the break in was mostly complete by now.

I used 2 different rounds. One was WWB 115grn trouble for some rounds. Other was Remington HP rounds I had left. I wanted to see if it would fail.
Hh
I tried the sling shot method with which I train and no issues were found. Loaded from 1st round.

Every shot fired and could hit 4" balloons from 7-38 yds per my range finder. Very surprising and welcomed.

Sights were very close to hitting right on top of the front sight close up. More middle of target to get hits at further distance.

Trigger was rough out of the box but between oil and cleanings with cycling, it smoothed out a lot. Further shooting should just make it smoother.

As as far as I can tell, I must have got a decent one.

As as for finish out of the box, the ejection port was not just sharp but like a new knife. Some edges on slide were left completely untouched and sharp also. All those offending areas were beveled and eliminated. Complete opposite experience with my new cw380. It was finished nicely. Another story and another section.

Overall, my experience with these pistols has been very positive so far and as suggested here and what I've done with many new guns, clean, oil and cycle these pistols until your arms go numb. It will most likely change your first outings experience out of the box.

Possible for pocket carry, I'd prefer it for a light weight OWB or IWB Carry pistol. See my other review for a great pocket pistol that the cw380 will hopefully make.

Definitely something that that will works its way into rotation. The SIG P938 is feeling the pressure as this CM9 might take over that role with some more range time.

Everybody finds that perfect trigger for them based on what they desire. For some things a SA 1911 trigger is perfect. As I grow older, I have begun to prefer a smooth consistent every time DAO type trigger. The Kahr trigger gives me a platform that provides that consistent trigger no matter caliber or model.

I could see the cw380 for everywhere anytime pocket carry. Then a cm9 on the hip with a holster I make gives you a bit more firepower. I don't know if my car/home gun will be surpassed as my Glock 19 seems to fill the upper gap very well. But maybe a bigger Kahr might find a way in. The grip feels very nice to my shorter fingers.

We'll also see if the cw380 upsets my perfect Ruger lcp in its current pocket carry role. It's been a great gun after 13lb springs and a BT Guide Rod. Also another story for another time.

[RonW]

So this is something I thought you should never do.... and that's cycle any gun without ammo in it. I also have a new cm9 and thought that I had to run ammo through it loosen it up? You are saying I don't have to shoot it to get the tightness out of it.. My issue is that the slide seems real hard to operate. If I cycle it like you have stated, it should loosen up?
:Amflag2:

This is what snap caps are for....

[berettabone]

Nothing works better than shooting them.............................

[berettabone]

I have to ask. But I'm not super familar with the bar dot sights on my CW40. How do you line up your sights? With me at 7 yards if I put the dot just above the bar and put the dot over the bullseye the shots hit 2-3" low.

I leave a bit of space between the sights, then cover the bull with the front sight as mentioned...you can even put the front sight a tad above the bull, and you'll be real close......................

[SigGlockBoy]

Cm91945 - I've worked on firearms for 30+ years. 22 years under my own FFL. I don't proclaim to know all by any means.

What I have seen for the last 10 or so years is smaller and smaller 9mm come out. Great. I love them. But with size comes tight actions. That and an industry building guns for hot rounds as normal ammo, you need to break guns in.

There is no replacement for shooting the gun and letting parts mate up. But most well made guns allow dry firing with or without snap caps. Buy a bag of them and just use them.

I I start with a out of the box gun and disassemble. Then oil or lube and reassemble. Then I break down the main areas of resistance in new guns. I then cycle the slide a few hundred times in right and left hand. Left tilted and right tilted. Pull up and pushing down to rub every side of the rails and grooves. I usually add some WS2 to my CLP as it is the slickest substance I've yet to find. Many threads all over on it with good info. I run it on thick in suspension.

then I cycle the trigger a few hundred times. Same with full cycling and firing sequence with caps.

Ceaning and recoiling a few times along the way.

By the time I get it to the range, the metal parts have certainly begun to mate up.

I feel due to this procedure on many new guns, I bypass a lot of the teething pains many new shooters have. The sticky on this site holds true. Don't discount it as worthless. It's similar to lapping barrels or new valves.

i see my breakin periods are usually much more beneficial as I don't have any ammo waste due to rough or tight actions. No wasted range time.

I will also try to shoot some of the usual trouble Ammo brands listed in some threads to find I have no issues at all. Then try some hotter hollow points for reliable feeding.

Yes it it takes some arm strength to cycle it as many times as I do. But I think it's well worth it. I've done this on new Berettas, SIGs, Smiths, kel-tec, Ruger and now my new Kahrs. Never had to on Glocks.

[muggsy]

I have to ask. But I'm not super familar with the bar dot sights on my CW40. How do you line up your sights? With me at 7 yards if I put the dot just above the bar and put the dot over the bullseye the shots hit 2-3" low.

It sounds as if your sight alignment is good, but your trigger finger may be riding a bit low on the trigger. That will cause the muzzle of the gun to drop slightly between the time that the trigger releases the striker and the striker hits the primer. (AKA lock time.) For the best accuracy your trigger must be pulled straight back parallel with the bore axis and your finger must be perpendictular to the bore axis when the trigger releases the striker. With practice you'll get gooder and gooder.

[cm91945]

Ron. Sorry, but I'm not sure what a snap cap is... Dose it protect your firing pin???

[cm91945]

Ron, Just read up on it. Thanks for letting me know about snap caps. Understand that one snap cap can take as many as 3000 operations. That should be enough for me.