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downtownv
12-22-2015, 03:37 AM
Christie: Loosen New Jersey gun laws
By Andrew Seidman TRENTON BUREAU
TRENTON — Gov. Christie called Monday for loosening New Jersey’s “extraordinarily strict and expansive gun control laws,” endorsing a report he commissioned that said state regulations had placed unfair burdens on law-abiding residents who want to obtain, carry, and transport firearms.
Christie released the report six months after he announced he had created a commission to review the state’s gun laws. A day after he signed an executive order announcing the commission, Christie officially declared his candidacy for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination.
On the campaign trail, some conservatives have expressed reservations over Christie’s record on gun rights in New Jersey.
The commission said some local police departments had failed to process firearms applications in a timely manner; argued that the standard by which individuals can obtain a permit to carry a handgun was too vague and onerous; and addressed various troubles New Jersey residents and out-of-state visitors have experienced with regard to transporting their handguns.
It recommended that the state attorney general issue directives with regard to processing firearms applications and interpreting a law that limits where residents may travel with their guns within the state. The report also said New Jersey should broaden a regulation governing whether individuals should be able to obtain concealed carry permits.
“New Jersey’s extraordinarily strict and expansive gun control laws and regulations have given rise to rules and restrictions that are complicated and unfair to law abiding New Jerseyans,” Christie said in a statement Monday.
Scott Bach, executive director of the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, praised Christie’s actions.
“New Jersey is notorious for its medieval treatment of gun owners and contempt for the Second Amendment, and the commission’s recommendations would address some of the most blatant abuses,” Bach said in a statement.
Bryan Miller, executive director of the advocacy group Heeding God’s Call to End Gun Violence, had a different take. The panel’s recommendations “run directly contrary to the wishes of the overwhelming majority of New Jerseyans, but since he virtually moved out of the state months ago, Christie cares not what Garden Staters want,” Miller said.
“Christie has ignored the great body of evidence that the state’s gun laws work to reduce violence in favor of kowtowing to the demands of pro-gun extremists in another state. Shameful,” he said.
In his June executive order, Christie cited the death of 39-year-old Carol Bowne of Berlin Township after being stabbed in her driveway that month by her ex-boyfriend. Bowne had a restraining order against Michael Eitel, and six weeks before her death had applied for a handgun permit. Prosecutors said the man hanged himself three days after the stabbing.
“The terrible tragedy involving Berlin resident Carol Bowne this past summer, and far too many instances of gun owners facing severe criminal penalties when they have no intent to violate the law, compelled the need to take a fresh look at whether our laws and rules around gun ownership are working,” Christie said Monday.
Christie appointed the three commission members: Adam J. Heck, a former associate counsel to Christie; Eric H. Jaso, a former federal prosecutor under Christie at the U.S. Attorney’s Office; and Erik Lillquist, a professor of criminal law at Seton Hall University.
The commission found that some police departments had not complied with a requirement that they issue handgun permits to eligible applicants within 30 days of receiving an application. Provided with examples from Rifle and Pistol Clubs, the commission said it had found application processing delays in some 100 different jurisdictions. Some delays were needed for extensive background checks, the report said.
Some police departments had unlawfully imposed extra requirements on applicants seeking permits, such as requiring spousal consent, the report said.
Victims of domestic violence face undue delays in being able to purchase firearms, the report said. Acting Attorney General John
J. Hoffman previously issued regulations to expedite application review in the case of domestic violence.
To ensure that authorities issue permits to eligible residents without “unnecessary delay,” the commission recommended that Hoffman establish uniform criteria for state and local police for processing applications.
The commission also scrutinized New Jersey’s concealed carry laws and regulations. To obtain a permit authorizing an individual to carry a handgun outside the home, an individual must prove to a judge that he or she has a “justifiable need” to do so.
The term is not defined in statute, the report said, but New Jersey regulations say it means “the urgent necessity for self-protection, as evidenced by specific threats or previous attacks which demonstrate a special danger to the applicant’s life that cannot be avoided by means other than by issuance of a permit to carry a handgun.”
Under this standard, the report said, “very few applications are granted, and many people are likely discouraged to obtain a permit because the standard is so high.”
The commission recommended changing the standard so that a permit would be issued “where the dangers to the applicant’s life cannot reasonably be avoided other than by issuance of the permit.”
“Without this change,” the report said, “the regulation appears to suggest that if there is anything the applicant could do to avoid the danger —including move to another state or even another country — the permit should not issue.”
Finally, the commission said New Jersey laws can “ensnare law-abiding individuals” transporting firearms within the state. There are exemptions to unlawful possession charges, including “point-to-point travel,” such as from one’s home to work, provided the firearm is unloaded and properly secured.
The exemption permits “reasonably necessary” deviations from that point-to-point travel, but the law doesn’t explain what that means, the report said.
As such, the attorney general should advise law enforcement authorities as to what constitutes a “reasonably necessary” deviation and provide specific examples, the commission said.
“We will work through the attorney general to put these changes into effect as quickly as possible,” Christie said. aseidman@phillynews.com
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downtownv
12-22-2015, 05:14 AM
The NJ2as replies:
Following the death of Carol Bowne, a report detailing the recommendations of a special commission convened by Governor Christie has been released regarding Second Amendment issues in New Jersey. In this report, the direct activism of NJ2AS volunteers in various New Jersey police departments was cited. As stated before, the NJ2AS will no longer chase government for answers in hearings or meetings, or participate in senseless protests or petitions - we will only engage in direct, damning activism that captures the tyranny of our state and FORCES a response FROM government TO us. Unfortunately, the report itself is little more than a campaign distraction with very little substance.

The NJ2AS is appalled and dumbfounded at the fact that any true supporters of the Second Amendment are reacting to this recent report with celebration. If anything, New Jerseyans looking to protect their right to bear arms should be infuriated with the continued deception from our state government and all of its representatives, especially Governor Christie.

This commission has in no way increased the right to carry, or in any tangible way improved the turn-around times for permits. In fact, it has potentially enshrined "justifiable need" forever in the Garden State, which should shake our supporters to the bone. It appears supposed champions of our cause neglected to even read portions of the commission report detailing this information- like this excerpt from page 22:

We conclude by noting that Wheeler itself appears to suggest that our proposed regulatory change should make it more likely that the justifiable need standard will survive future constitutional challenges. By emphasizing that an applicant need only "show an objective reason...other than a generalized concern about becoming a crime victim to anticipate an attack necessitating the defensive use of a handgun," the Wheeler court standard allows for the sort of meaningful self-protection by a law-abiding applicant that we believe will be necessary (at a minimum) for our handgun permitting laws to survive constitutional scrutiny. Maintaining the Administrative Code's present misreading of Siccardi and Preis that an applicant must demonstrate a "specific threat" in order to obtain a carry permit seems likely to result eventually in a successful constitutional challenge to the justifiable need standard

The commission is openly admitting that these changes will actually allow the state to PRESERVE the discriminatory justifiable need clause in the Garden State while strengthening it from future challenge in the courts, The status quo where law enforcement and judges continue to wantonly deny applicants in no way will change.

Furthermore, the report makes vague references to making "uniform" practice of firearm permitting across townships, while in no way detailing any CONSEQUENCES for law enforcement for failing to do so. There is no incentive or punishment whatsoever for police chiefs or detectives to suddenly start complying with our already absurd 30 day time frame for permits.

Until police chiefs can be punished or lose their jobs for failing to comply with the law, none of the drivel in this report matters. Citizens do not have the deep pockets to constantly sue their municipal government for failing to uphold their rights - nor should New Jersey become a place where only lawsuits insure your rights. The fact of the matter is, unless a very prescribed and specific PUNISHMENT for law enforcement that fails to comply with the firearms permitting laws is defined (or a default approval after the allotted time frame), this report will not be worth the paper it's printed on. That is why the NJ2AS continues to contend there should be NO permitting process for purchasing, as background checks are already redundantly performed at the point of sale. Involving government in the process only stands to ensure further delays, indifference, and misconduct.

Jersey City was sued for delaying firearms permits and requiring additional forms to Michael McGovern. Michael McGovern won his lawsuit for the unnecessary delay. Immediately after this decision, countless other individuals in Jersey City reported their permits were also being delayed and requiring additional forms without explanation. Till this day we still receive many complains for the former mentioned. The city took the position of "you can sue us too" in regards to conforming with the law. They do not care; they are not held accountable, even when judges decide they are guilty of misconduct. Only a fool will read this report and think it in any way will materially change the conduct of the law enforcement officers currently abusing our convoluted permitting system. The government of New Jersey is all powerful, never accountable, and already disobeys the law as written. If they will continue to wield power over deciding who gets to exercise their rights, who could possibly believe these vague conclusions in the report will materially result in substantive change?

Lastly, it is shocking that Governor Christie has recently admitted on the record that he can't reinterpret "justifiable need" by executive order (https://youtu.be/yspiBXm9DwI (http://www.nj2as.com/EmailTracker/LinkTracker.ashx?linkAndRecipientCode=sK70OnVhxFfA uDAHsQUR3PU%2bSMhXhvaIH6AR0dwgXMLtIO6DYCx3nzSHYr7k F0rmq7D%2bq%2fTtUqq3f61cqaO267C4%2fe01g4ZYVmB07QZA AOY%3d)), but suddenly, this very report clearly calls for a reinterpretation of the Administrative Code to a very small and minute degree. How is it that the Governor can justify reinterpreting "justifiable need" a little bit, but not to include self-defense? Is some change OK, but not too much? How much change exactly is he capable of affecting? How can he throw his hands up and imply he is powerless to make change to ensure all New Jereyans rights, but can make a change to ensure a small handful of citizen's rights due to the shuffling of a few trifling words? This pandering does not fool us - we know that carry will continue to be relegated to the same friends and family of law enforcement, the legislature, and judges - statistically to less than 0.02% of the state population which includes retired police officers.

It is hard to call the recommendation of this report "changes" to current law. New Jersey still basically boils down to this simple fact: some lives are worth protecting (politicians, law enforcement, and judges) and other are expendable (everyone else). This is the preeminent civil rights issue in the Garden State. Until every citizen is afforded the right to protect themselves inside and outside their homes the same way our politicians and governor enjoy, there is no justice.

Sincerely,
Alexander Roubian
NJ2AS President

leftysixty
12-22-2015, 06:24 AM
Smoke and mirrors, more political BS!!

Scarywoody
12-22-2015, 07:14 AM
He hugged Barry for a billion dollars. I lost all respect for the guy.

downtownv
12-22-2015, 07:17 AM
Smoke and mirrors, more political BS!!

Exactly!


He hugged Barry for a billion dollars. I lost all respect for the guy.

No, He Dry Humped him...

muggsy
12-22-2015, 07:56 AM
If Christie had adopted this pro-gun position on day one I'd be far more impressed. Can you say politically expedient?

muggsy
12-22-2015, 07:58 AM
I had an epiphany once. I think that I traded it for a 1911 A-1.

TheTman
12-22-2015, 09:10 AM
If I had someone stalking me, gun laws be damned, I would arm myself! As far as Christie goes, he might as well drop out of the race, just as Lindsay Graham did. I don't trust either of those guys.

Armybrat
12-22-2015, 09:14 AM
Too little, too late for the fat man's political future.

But it would be nice if that police state would start recognizing the Constitution.

downtownv
12-22-2015, 04:11 PM
Well he's #2 in NhH polls, which I just don't get it...

muggsy
12-22-2015, 04:47 PM
What's not to get. There are very few real men in N.H.

berettabone
12-23-2015, 02:32 PM
he wears women's underwear......................................... ...........................................