View Full Version : Is my CW380 defective??
Gun Doctor
01-02-2016, 08:19 AM
Okay guys, help me out. I'm confused, conflicted, and worried. I bought a CW380 not too long ago, and so far, I have about 1500 rounds down range without a malfunction. BUT...This is the ONLY pistol I have ever owned, or even worked on, that you can push the slide out-of-battery (or so it appears) with a round in the chamber. I can push the slide back darn near 1/4 inch, and it will stay there until I push it back forward.
As I said, I'm confused. So far, this little pop gun has worked flawlessly, but the gunsmith in me says this slide thing is wrong, wrong, wrong. I have taken this pistol out of my pocket, and placed it back in the drawer as I'm worried about the situation, and I'm carrying IWB again. Has anyone else experienced this, or is my little beast all alone. Has anyone spoken with Kahr technical folks about it> Let me know! :confused:
topgun1953
01-02-2016, 09:01 AM
I believe that in the closed position, the slide is 'balanced' by tension in the striker spring and the recoil springs. ive really noticed this myself as I just got my P380 back from Kahr for its 4th striker failure. They replaced the striker, recoil springs, slide AND barrel. It's great get all these new parts but now some breaking in is required. I noticed that within the 1/4 inch you speak of, there was a lot of ,rubbing' and reduced tension. Investigation revealed the rubbing was coming from the striker within the channel. The slide itself on the frame is smooth as silk. As the striker 'wears' in, things should improve so I'm not concerned. In your case, everything should be well broken in. So...if you haven't replaced your recoil springs yet, definitely do so and you should see some improvement. This issue has come up before and it seems to be common to semi autos to one degree or another.
Gun Doctor
01-02-2016, 10:03 AM
Ya know, I've worked on literally thousands of Beretta military pistols, hundreds of 1911s, hundreds of Sig military pistols, and bunches of other civilian pistols, including CZ, Ruger, S&W, and H&K. NEVER saw this slide movement in ANY pistol. In fact, one of my checks in any semi auto would be to grab the slide and move it around, to see if it was loose side to side, and to see if it was "tight" in it's lock-up. This Kahr feels very wrong. If anyone from Kahr reads this, please feel free to jump in and let me know what's going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gun Doctor
01-02-2016, 10:04 AM
Also, why in the hell does the Kahr Forum software think Kahr is spelled wrong????????
timboy
01-02-2016, 09:14 PM
I have noticed this with mine too,it does bother me,I wish there was enough tension to keep it locked up properly.
Ronni3_J
01-02-2016, 10:33 PM
Also, why in the hell does the Kahr Forum software think Kahr is spelled wrong????????
Kahr shows its spelled incorrectly because of your web browser. If you add it to you dictionary it will not tell you its spelled incorrectly.
Shoop
01-03-2016, 07:23 AM
This is common with all Kahr pistols. If it stays back it's probably your ammo rubbing up on the slide. Try pushing the top round forward a bit so it doesn't sit so proud.
If you keep the gun in a proper holster it should never be a problem anyway.
Edit: lol, just read the other post. Some people.
muggsy
01-03-2016, 07:36 AM
Your recoil spring may have taken a set and could be a little weak. As long as the gun functions properly it isn't a problem. All semi auto pistols can be pushed out of battery fairly easily, but most will return to full battery when released. Make sure that the pistol is properly lubed by viewing the lube chart sticky. You might also check the plastic guide rails for burrs. The more you shoot the gun the smoother it will get and the better it will function.
jpshaw
01-03-2016, 07:55 AM
Tried to answer the question on "general" forum but the powers that be locked it. Please see idiosyncrasies on the general forum. There is a lot of friction from the chamber block and slide plus the round partially withdrawn for the slide to be held motionless.
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